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soadshuyin

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:24 pm


FeyAlbatross
I just had some questions that might have to do with this that I was hoping someone could answer. I feel like there is an inconsistency with the timeline concerning the videos at Icicle Inn. In the last video where Gast is abducted by Hojo (to get information on JENOVA, right?), Aerith is already mentioned as being born. So...would that mean that Gast was abducted before Sephiroth's birth, or after? And also, why is it that only some people infused with JENOVA cells were manipulated by Sephiroth? After all, all SOLDIERs have the cells, but many are fought during the game, and not seen trailing after Sephiroth. There's also Vincent, who must have JENOVA cells if he's capable of transforming like he does, so why isn't he manipulated? Just wondering if anyone could answer. Thanks! heart


The Icicle Inn videos only explained to Hojo that Jenova wasnt an Ancient, which he didnt know, and a little about the existance of the Weapons. It was all after Sephiroth was born.

Sephiroth chose to only act through the main chunk of Jenova since it seemed the most logical to him. It could take the shape of Sephiroth and also drop off chunks of itself to fight if necessary. The humans wouldve just been controlled like Cloud was, then wouldnt have put up much resistance to the group at all.

Vincent only had his DNA infused with that of different monsters. That splicing, mixed with Mako, were what caused the ability to transform completely. He had no Jenova implanted in him, since Jenova was still under lock and key at the time of Vincents experiments.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:08 pm


since this topic is about jenova can any1 tell me wat a god stratgie is for beatsing her on the cargo ship?

codymather


ddemim

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:45 am


the cargo ship one is easy just hit her with summons. i think shiva and irit work best...if i'm remebering right
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:23 pm


those quotes are 100% on the spot nice i remember those perfectly

School nurse


jambacute

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:42 pm


thanks for clearing this issues out because i was trying to understand some of the concept with little infor that was given to me and the movie.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:25 am


if you want some extra explanations play dirge of cerberus
It explains a lot about vincent, lucrecia, and hojo
and its an awesome game cool

Shadophoenix


Shicano_Blue

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:46 pm


Note: I havnt read all 12 pages. And I dont have any proof as Squall does. BUT

I would like to point out that i do remember a scene where Luciea ( Forgive my horrible spelling) injects herself with JENOVA cells.

That doesnt mean i beleive Vincent is the father. Im just saying that I remember a scene about that.

ALSO

I have some proof that Squall might want to research on. I remember Vincent saying something to the effect of
"I shouldnt have been the one who slept. It should have been Hojo.."
Meaning that he was blaming himself for impreganting Luciea. And that he was punishing himself by sleeping for all those years. That is pretty much fact that Hojo is the father and Vincent must have slept with Luciea ( at least once) to beleive that he might be the father.

NOTE: This is all from memory i do not have good enough proof to go against what Squall has said. sweatdrop

Put anyways good guide Squall! I learned alot! biggrin
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:25 pm


Shicano_Blue
Note: I havnt read all 12 pages. And I dont have any proof as Squall does. BUT

I would like to point out that i do remember a scene where Luciea ( Forgive my horrible spelling) injects herself with JENOVA cells.

That doesnt mean i beleive Vincent is the father. Im just saying that I remember a scene about that.

ALSO

I have some proof that Squall might want to research on. I remember Vincent saying something to the effect of
"I shouldnt have been the one who slept. It should have been Hojo.."
Meaning that he was blaming himself for impreganting Luciea. And that he was punishing himself by sleeping for all those years. That is pretty much fact that Hojo is the father and Vincent must have slept with Luciea ( at least once) to beleive that he might be the father.

NOTE: This is all from memory i do not have good enough proof to go against what Squall has said. sweatdrop

Put anyways good guide Squall! I learned alot! biggrin


Ill add in my two cents to what youve said, as most of it is a bit mislead. No offense meant, but the facts we have access to today point in another direction for what youve said.

Hojo was the one that injected the Jenova cells into Lucrecias womb. She, in turn, also received some of the effects of Jenova on herself.

And Vincent wasnt blaming himself for impregnating her, he was blaming himself for not stopping her and telling her his real feelings. He masked his feelings for her and allowed her to go on with the project involving her and Hojos unborn son. He had the chance to stop them but didnt.
What he meant when he said Hojo should have slept was that Hojo shouldve seen that what he was doing was wrong and shouldve felt the guilt of not stopping what he was doing himself. He shouldve lived with the shame and sin of what he did instead of Vincent.

soadshuyin


TristanVampirus

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:13 pm


I agree that Vincent was feeling guilty about not stopping the experiment that occured. I think the worst part is he didn't even mention his thoughts to Hojo... He said he shouldn't have slept, this means he probably wished he could have done something instead of sit back. Hojo should have slept, meaning that vincent wanted to stop the experiment while Hojo wasn't looking. Sleep is a good time for this would you agree
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:23 am


wow.. awesome!! ><

chaoszx


gamer9

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:22 pm


uh just who is or who was jenova in the past before septhorth
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:07 pm


gamer9
uh just who is or who was jenova in the past before septhorth
What do you mean?

soadshuyin


gamer9

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:57 pm


uh like was she a human before who became a experment knowen as jenova or was she just that way before ??????
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