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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:37 pm
Kairi.nin I honestly think LeeSaku is cute, but I never use the 'who deserves who' argument, so I'm not going to say that Lee truly deserves Sakura. I will say that she should give him a chance for all that he's done for her, though. And I would be perfectly content if it became a canon pairing as well.
However, I'm still rooting for SasuSaku. :3 I just find a need to defend LeeSaku avidly for all of the antiness it gets. It's like, I was on this thread about Naruto couples and there was this incredibly hypocritical SasuSaku worshipper on it who dismissed any arguments for LeeSaku because SasuSaku was apparently 'the only pairing on the show who had any shred of hope to becoming canon' and that LeeSaku was a 'crap pairing' and I was 'delusional for suporting it'. That is why I make it my business to support it in any place that I can. Anyway, I do think Lee deserves Sakura, but as you said, it can't be used as a straight argument, just because it ignores Sakura's feelings and that's half of the equation. I'd be most happy if LeeSaku and KibaHina happened, but I don't think it will because it leaves Naruto alone. Though, he could be paired up with Ino but that's about as unlikely as Gai and Kakashi getting married. eek
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:58 pm
Candy Quackenbush I just find a need to defend LeeSaku avidly for all of the antiness it gets. It's like, I was on this thread about Naruto couples and there was this incredibly hypocritical SasuSaku worshipper on it who dismissed any arguments for LeeSaku because SasuSaku was apparently 'the only pairing on the show who had any shred of hope to becoming canon' and that LeeSaku was a 'crap pairing' and I was 'delusional for suporting it'. That is why I make it my business to support it in any place that I can. Anyway, I do think Lee deserves Sakura, but as you said, it can't be used as a straight argument, just because it ignores Sakura's feelings and that's half of the equation. I'd be most happy if LeeSaku and KibaHina happened, but I don't think it will because it leaves Naruto alone. Though, he could be paired up with Ino but that's about as unlikely as Gai and Kakashi getting married. eek I know what you mean. I feel the exact same way about SasuSaku because it gets its fair share of antiness, too, and because I love it so much. But I wouldn't have wasted my time talking to someone who's too close-minded to accept the fact that other pairings can happen. I can understand why you did, though. And even though I say I wouldn't.. I probably would have. That's just how we pairing shippers are.
Heh. I really like KibaHina. I'd be happy if it happened, but it would make me wonder where Hinata's years of admiring Naruto went..
NaruIno = cracktastic. That would be one of the most out of the blue pairings if it became canon.
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:44 pm
*poke the poll* Wow, a lot of ppl voted for SakuraxSasuke.. For me, I voted SakuraxNaruto. I just don't really like Sakura and Sasuke together and I don't know why.. They're okay. 3nodding Again, this is just my opinion XD
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:22 pm
my first favourite pairing with Sasuke and Sakura but now I like all of them except Lee (bushy eye-brows and bowl shape haircut no offence) Naruto (don't think they fit) and Chouji (who thinks they go together?!)
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:09 pm
Um... ^^; Forgive me for sounding terribly sadistic, but...
I like Sakura's one-sided love for Sasuke, and trying to stop loving him. I like her hating him and loving him at the same time, with those constant conflicting emotions confusing her.
Another thing I like is Sakura sacrificing everything for Sasuke, while he remains undifferent/unknowing of this. :3...
Yesimmean.
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:21 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:00 pm
Aw, we won't bite. Regardless of our pairing of choice, everybody in this guild has joined so to support Sakura and her role in the series. :3
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:23 am
I can't stand Sasuke. And if he did go out with Sakura, He probably wouldnt like her, He DID say all he wanted to do is Restore his clan. Whatever girl asks him, he'd just b like, "Ok, Whatever".
I like Sasuke personally with Ino. Ino liked him first, and she didnt tell Sakura because she didnt want Sakura to think Sasuke was a prize or something. Ino was more.... Kind-hearted... But at age 12-14, She was very vain, now at age 15, she's kinda mellowed out again.
But If a Was Sakura, Heh, I wouldn't go to Sasuke, He was mean to her, Ignord her, and only thanked her for being annoying. I mean, Naruto risks his life for Sakura, And Sasuke doesn't [Partial Reason why he got so mad at Naruto- For finishing fights for him, and saving people and getting praise, I guess] really even stick up for her.
NaruxSaku ALL THE WAY! >D
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:46 pm
Sakura x Sasuke (OTP<3) Gaara x Sakura Sasori x Sakura Lee x Sakura (sort of) Neji x Sakura (sort of) Shikamaru x Sakura (sort of)
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:41 pm
SakuraBlessing I can't stand Sasuke. And if he did go out with Sakura, He probably wouldnt like her, He DID say all he wanted to do is Restore his clan. Whatever girl asks him, he'd just b like, "Ok, Whatever". I like Sasuke personally with Ino. Ino liked him first, and she didnt tell Sakura because she didnt want Sakura to think Sasuke was a prize or something. Ino was more.... Kind-hearted... But at age 12-14, She was very vain, now at age 15, she's kinda mellowed out again. But If a Was Sakura, Heh, I wouldn't go to Sasuke, He was mean to her, Ignord her, and only thanked her for being annoying. I mean, Naruto risks his life for Sakura, And Sasuke doesn't [Partial Reason why he got so mad at Naruto- For finishing fights for him, and saving people and getting praise, I guess] really even stick up for her. NaruxSaku ALL THE WAY! >D Yay! whee Second to LeeSaku, NaruSaku's my favorite on the show! I agree with all the reasons you said, though I personally don't like SasuIno that much.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:27 am
Ah, debate time, huh? whee
The thing is, I believe that the character's immature to maturity development was symbolized in their crushes changing for different people.
I cannot see SasuSaku ever happening. I feel that if Sakura ended up getting her feelings up for Sasuke again, that would throw all her character development down the drain since the timeskip and I feel that Kishimoto making her more mature and independent wouldn't have a point. confused
NaruSaku doesn't have a feel for me either. I'm pretty sure that Naruto's immature attitude in part 1 was symbolized in this crush for Sakura, and that Naruto ending feelings for Sakura also would symbolize that he has matured. I can't see them as anything more than a brother-sister relationship, and I can't stand main guy/main girl pairings. They're just...Bleh. The two characters are way too alike and because of that I don't see the sparks flying. I'm an opposites attract kind of person, and I know that I would never last with a boyfriend that is too alike to me because I'd get bored. domokun
LeeSaku, I used to be a fan of, and I can still see it happening, being my second -Saku choice. Unfortunately, again with the maturity. Lee getting his crush back on Sakura after the timeskip would also throw character development down the drain, though he never completely needed it. xd
SasuIno...No. Again with the maturity thing. Shikamaru mentioned specifically that Ino would stop judging by appearances, and I believe that's her point in maturity and that's why I completely despise SaiIno. It is crucial for developing Ino to make her fall for a character that at first glance doesn't seem attractive, and ChoIno has been hinted almost as much as ShikaTema though not as bluntly. Ino has to stop crushing on Sasuke and Sai in order for her to mature, and this symbolism applies to her more than Sakura.
NaruHina... NaruHina is my oddball, and maybe its because it involves the main character. I support it and for good reason. No matter what NaruSaku-ers argue ( stare ), NaruHina still has a very decent chance in happening. Unlike Sakura and Ino, Hinata really was in love with Naruto. She had been watching him silently for a long time, and chose him over pretty-boy Sasuke that all the girls had been obsessing over at the time. Hinata's character development revolves almost entirely over Naruto and her teammates, and it was Hinata that saw Naruto leave the village, not Sakura. Hinata was already more mature starting at the beginning of the show, and all the character development she needed was to become more enthusiastic. I really can't see NaruHina not happening, and the fillers? Well, its absolutely normal for manga authors to tell animators how he or she is going to end a manga. Example: Full Metal Alchemist. wink
KakaSaku: To tell you the truth, I really cannot see Kakashi ever getting married, he's just too obsessed with Obito and Rin (wherever she is). Yeah, they were the ones left behind in Konoha, but even so I think they barely had any contact. Kakashi being overprotective over Sakura means nothing, as it is a shonen manga and a technique Kishimoto used to make the boys seem brighter was to shadow Sakura (and therefore I'm a bit pissed off at him for that because it spawned Sakura haters.), I don't think there are any feelings involved and imagine the scandal gonk ! Kishimoto would get in serious trouble for pairing those two up.
GaaSaku: Believe it or not, I think this is the one that makes most sense. Remember how Sakura could not sympathize well with Naruto because she never knew the pain of loneliness? Well, I think Sakura being paired up with Gaara would show that she has matured past that phrase of "he's lucky not to have any parents", and Gaara resembles both Naruto and Sasuke, so Sakura could easily show maturity by ending up with him without losing character devlopment anywhere, if anything, it shows it a lot from Sakura's and Gaara's part.
Oh, and by the way, I learned everything I know from my high school English classes. wink
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:22 pm
Reyairia The thing is, I believe that the character's immature to maturity development was symbolized in their crushes changing for different people.
I cannot see SasuSaku ever happening. I feel that if Sakura ended up getting her feelings up for Sasuke again, that would throw all her character development down the drain since the timeskip and I feel that Kishimoto making her more mature and independent wouldn't have a point. confused I'm going to take a shot at this.. it may be a short shot, but at least I'm trying.
Can she not like Sasuke while being mature at the same time? After all, her feelings for him matured by the end of Part I. She wasn't the same immature twelve-year-old that she was at the beginning of the series. Her character began to develop, and to mature, I think, [other than the obvious FoD scene] after she learned that it was Naruto who saved her life, that Sasuke wasn't the knight in shining armor that she thought he was. She didn't act like a fan-girl anymore after that around Sasuke, did she? Every time she was with him after that, it was to stay by his side while he was in a coma, to hug him and cry tears of joy when he awoke, to stay by his side after he woke up to continue taking care of him, and to spill her heart to him; offer to help him with his revenge, to give up everything just to be with him.
In the second databook, Kishimoto wrote that after Naruto returned to Konoha without Sasuke, that was where her 'true' development began. [Or somewhere around there, at least. I know it was after Sasuke left.]
Her true development began because, other than the fact that she realized how far Naruto was willing to go for her, she knew it was going to take both of them to save Sasuke. Her true development happened because of Sasuke, if you look at the big picture. It was his leaving, and Naruto's return, that made her go to Tsunade.
She's obviously still thinking of Sasuke a lot, yet in a more mature way. Her 'school-girl crush' was nowhere in sight when she saw him for the first time after the time-jump.
It isn't as though, if the two of them ever became a couple, she would revert back to her old, fan-girl self. I'm sure she would stay exactly how she is now. And.. you said: "..I feel that Kishimoto making her more mature and independent wouldn't have a point." What, in your opinion, was the point of her maturing and becoming independent in the first place? It was basically to help Naruto bring back Sasuke, wasn't it? That's really what boosted it, anyway.. or at least I think so.
You see, a lot of this has to do with how you view certain things.
And, hey, maybe one reason she matured was because she thought, "Well, flirting with Sasuke-kun didn't make him like me.. so maybe I should become mature and strong enough to kick his a**!"
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:21 pm
Kairi.nin Reyairia The thing is, I believe that the character's immature to maturity development was symbolized in their crushes changing for different people.
I cannot see SasuSaku ever happening. I feel that if Sakura ended up getting her feelings up for Sasuke again, that would throw all her character development down the drain since the timeskip and I feel that Kishimoto making her more mature and independent wouldn't have a point. confused I'm going to take a shot at this.. it may be a short shot, but at least I'm trying.
Can she not like Sasuke while being mature at the same time? After all, her feelings for him matured by the end of Part I. She wasn't the same immature twelve-year-old that she was at the beginning of the series. Her character began to develop, and to mature, I think, [other than the obvious FoD scene] after she learned that it was Naruto who saved her life, that Sasuke wasn't the knight in shining armor that she thought he was. She didn't act like a fan-girl anymore after that around Sasuke, did she? Every time she was with him after that, it was to stay by his side while he was in a coma, to hug him and cry tears of joy when he awoke, to stay by his side after he woke up to continue taking care of him, and to spill her heart to him; offer to help him with his revenge, to give up everything just to be with him.
In the second databook, Kishimoto wrote that after Naruto returned to Konoha without Sasuke, that was where her 'true' development began. [Or somewhere around there, at least. I know it was after Sasuke left.]
Her true development began because, other than the fact that she realized how far Naruto was willing to go for her, she knew it was going to take both of them to save Sasuke. Her true development happened because of Sasuke, if you look at the big picture. It was his leaving, and Naruto's return, that made her go to Tsunade.
She's obviously still thinking of Sasuke a lot, yet in a more mature way. Her 'school-girl crush' was nowhere in sight when she saw him for the first time after the time-jump.
It isn't as though, if the two of them ever became a couple, she would revert back to her old, fan-girl self. I'm sure she would stay exactly how she is now. And.. you said: "..I feel that Kishimoto making her more mature and independent wouldn't have a point." What, in your opinion, was the point of her maturing and becoming independent in the first place? It was basically to help Naruto bring back Sasuke, wasn't it? That's really what boosted it, anyway.. or at least I think so.
You see, a lot of this has to do with how you view certain things.
And, hey, maybe one reason she matured was because she thought, "Well, flirting with Sasuke-kun didn't make him like me.. so maybe I should become mature and strong enough to kick his a**!"Unfortunately, you're not looking at it in the same way I am. You are looking at NARUTO as if it were real life, not as if it were a fictional story. If you take English classes at school, you wouldn't say something about the novel you would be studying the same way. I am. And like a good literature analyst, I don't look at what would be more realistic, but at the symbolism and metaphors. Yes, it is true that Sakura could be mature and still love Sasuke in a realistic way, but a good author would not do that, especially a symbolism-lover like Kishimoto. I still haven't nailed all of the things he's put. confused
The thing is, the vast majority if not all of Sakura's character development revolves around getting over Sasuke. Sakura coming this far getting over him, looking ahead and stopping being a fangirl only to end up with him in the end? It doesn't make any sense really.
Ah, Sakura's confession. Only too easy to argue against. That scene where Sakura was ready to give up everything to go with Sasuke was an act of "school-girl crush immaturity, if you ever read A Hero of Our Time in English class and analyze it well enough you'll understand what I'm talking about (Princess Mary). If those were mature feelings of someone older, she would have not done something like that, in fact, she would have never fallen for Sasuke at all to begin with. Crying by his side? Anybody that would have cared for Sasuke would have done the same, that scene is more than likely insignificant for SasuSaku except that Naruto has given up his crush on her and only teases her in Part 2. (Its so hard to hate both pairings)
Yes, I'm pretty sure it was Sasuke's leaving that made Sakura mature, and in a way, that could easily mean that Sakura with Sasuke = immature Sakura in symbolistic terms and further proves my point that SasuSaku does not make sense. Naruto has done exactly the same thing for Sasuke, if not even more. Naruto defeats Sakura in that department, sorry. And even so, I don't think SasuNaru will ever happen either simply because its BL. Sakura became mature to help Naruto, the main character, get Sasuke back, not to marry/date Sasuke.
Hell, in fact, excluding the fight with Ino, all 3 times where Sakura has really seriously shown her power had something to do with the Sand Siblings.
1. Stepping in front of Sasuke when Gaara was about to kill him. 2. Healing Kankuro. 3. Helping kill Sasori to rescue Gaara, who also happened to be from Suna.
- Sasuke holds Sakura down. - Sand siblings bring Sakura up. - Naruto keeps Sakura up.
Eat that. xp
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:22 pm
I'm sorry Kairi, but I think I have to agree with Reya. (Not just because I'm against SasuSaku mind you!) Although I don't take english classes like that...
But then again...if Sakura was able to be with Sasuke and stay mature, couldn't that say that Kishi had developed incredibly as a writer and so gives Sakura inceredible maturity?
( gonk ....did I...did I just HELP SausSaku?! -gags-)
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:41 am
pnay_babi I'm sorry Kairi, but I think I have to agree with Reya. (Not just because I'm against SasuSaku mind you!) Although I don't take english classes like that... But then again...if Sakura was able to be with Sasuke and stay mature, couldn't that say that Kishi had developed incredibly as a writer and so gives Sakura inceredible maturity? ( gonk ....did I...did I just HELP SausSaku?! -gags-) Not according to what I've said.
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