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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:42 pm
Definitely not, there was barely anything answered. This book was definitely the most filler in the series thus far (hopefully that thus far can just be removed, I'd hate to imagine MORE filler). Yes it didn't introduce more new questions, but it did introduce a lot of fluff. Unless, maybe that fluff is relevant, and then we aren't even realizing how many questions have been brought into play! I know!! Especially Fiyero, I mean he SO did not deserve that.
Yea, I think P+P is the only one I hated in HS that I read again, but I'm pretty sure the rest of the books I disliked I'd still dislike. Primarily because unlike P+P, which was a disinterest in theme at the time (and not the sophistication to appreciate characterization in it's place), the rest of the books I hated was usually because of moral offense. Things about the plot or characters that just enraged me. The one thing I think I might consider giving a second chance too is Mary Shelly's Frankenstein. That probably fell into the same category as P+P, so I could potentially have changed my mind.
I'll let you know if I get into LOTR before you, I'd doubt it though.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:50 pm
Why practically nothing was answered for most of the book, I thought the last bit answered a helluva lot in one go, like who Yackle was, where the Grimoire was, some information on the Clock of the Time Dragon, who ratted Fiyero out, what happened to Nor... even though it didn't answer stuff like that throughout the book, because it still had so much fluff, it didn't bring up enough new questions to counter-balance the ones it answered. But yes, I agree that the book was the most filler-y. Actually, looking back, the only books I've really disliked were ones I found boring, like To Kill a Mockingbird. I don't think I've ever completely hated a book; just not been interested in. Oh, and I very much liked Frankenstein, especially when comparing it to other books that we were required to read in high school. I highly recommend giving it another try. Thanks. XD
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:56 pm
That's what I mean, if we get into the fourth book and then BAM they magically make what we call fluff relevant. As much as I'm annoyed by an all fluff book, I'd hate for that crap to become relevant. I don't want to have to deal with it anymore.
In the Time of the Butterflies was my absolute favorite required reading in high school. But yea, boring I dislike, but there are books that get me passionately angry. I guess passion is good, but I'm so angry, resentful and pissed off I can't like the book. The worst is when I'm angry and bored - like The Handmaids Tale, I absolutely despised the premises but still found it dry and tedious. Frankenstein the characters were so ridiculously retarded that it got on my nerves, and I found large sections dry. But perhaps what I once saw as dry I'll see in new ways, and there are things I liked about the characters. Even the ridiculousness after the fact, so we'll see. It'd probably be awhile, there are several books I'd rather reread first, not to mention all the books I'd like to read once.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:30 pm
Yes, I feel the same way. XP My favorite required in high school was The Picture of Dorian Gray. Elementary school was Island of the Blue Dolphins (not as gay as it sounds if you haven't read it, and actually quite a serious book!). I'm sure there are plenty of books out there that would just absolutely piss me off, but I seem to have been lucky enough not to stumble upon any thus far. And I agree that Frankenstein had both ridiculous characters as well as dry parts, but those are both things I actually enjoyed about the novel. XD Somehow in that book I always imagined the monster looking like Alucard from Hellsing...
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:48 pm
I bought Dorian Gray recently, it was hard cover and it was $3, and I've been meaning to read it so I couldn't resist. It's probably next in line on my non-manga reading list after I finish Alice in Wonderland (almost done) and Through the Looking Glass. Howls and Dragonheart (newest Pern book out) might trump it, we shall see. But yea I've wanted to read that. It wasn't required reading in any class at my school. My favorite elementary reading was Where the Lilies Bloom - very sad and tragic. I really want to reread it but my fail list is so long! And I did read it twice thanks to a fail fourth grade teacher who assigned us 6th grade reading for some unknown reason (not that I minded rereading that book 2 years later). In Middle School it was My Brother Sam is Dead, but that book made me so sad. Ugh, all three of my favorites are sad and tragic, what is wrong with me?!? xd
I've never picked up a book that pissed me off - just some that have bored me. Apparently only the CA board of education or whatever you call them are the only people who manage to find those books for me. The worst in my opinion was probably Things Fall Apart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_Fall_Apart), I absolutely despised that book and the protagonist. All I could do was take pleasure in his comeuppance, and that didn't make the rest more bearable. I also really disliked plays Death of a Salesman and A Raising in the Sun as well. I'm no fan of Romeo and Juliet or Othello either, but I didn't quite have the same level of passionate hate for them. Othello just bored me because of they are the flattest characters in the history of Shakespeare. I mean yea, Shakespeare only has about 3 plots, doesn't take a monkey to figure that out. He's not famous for his plots, he's famous for his characters. And Othello's cast list failed right down to the most minute parts. As for Romeo I was just annoyed at how retarded the main duo was. There were some excellent side characters in that though, and I do understand why it's a great.
Yea, we'll see if I find merit in dry or just dry if I ever give it another chance. Not familiar with Hellsing, but looking up a photo that's not what I imagine. He's not pieced enough, he looks too solid, too...one complete person.
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:17 pm
Oh, that's cool. =D Always meant to buy Dorian Gray, but just never ran into it anywhere. But yes, I very much liked it. Another elementary book I liked a lot was Flowers for Algernon. Like Island of the Blue Dolphins, it was quite sad, though a completely different theme. Oh wow, I remember Things Fall Apart... that was just so weird, because... it felt like I had just... completely erased that book from my memory. I hadn't thought about it once since reading it, and I didn't even think, "I think I read a class book at this time but can't remember what it was." It just like... never happened in my memory until you said that title. I knew it sounded so familiar, and I knew I had even read the book with that title, so I looked it up and sure enough it all came back to me. XD I didn't detest the book. I couldn't really feel anything for any of the characters except for the boy they took in and killed, so I wasn't super angry about anything. I just didn't care for the book and promptly forgot about it. I do remember something about yams though... huh. I agree on Othello and Romeo and Juliet though. Bah. Oh, I probably should've explained that better. XD;; I don't mean I imagine the standard Alucard that you see in my pictures of him as the monster. Just him when he was first found in the manga; he was in like this giant straight jacket coat thing that covered most of his body, so you couldn't tell if his flesh was together or not, he had long black hair and was super lean and tall, like abnormally so, which was how the monster was described if I recall correctly. I couldn't find a picture of him from the manga of the part I'm describing, but pretty much like this: http://media.animegalleries.net/albums/media/196/hs_alucard183.jpg Except in a giant coat, with longer hair, and though he still does have some of that weird eyeball and body dissolving stuff going on, not as drastically as in that picture.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:40 pm
Indeed...well, hopefully I'll like it.
YAMS! YES!!! Haha, and I KNOW! The only character I felt for was the boy from the other village who was sacrificed. But yea I absolutely despised the main character. I thought he was an arrogant fool, and at least he got what he deserved, but that didn't make anything better. It just made me resent an entire culture as cruel and inferior. It's fiction, but it could be real, and that bothered me.
Haha, ok because the picture I found when I looked the series up was like, hmm, not Frankenstein like at all. I guess that's closer but still not what I imagine. I can't recall what horror movie I'm thinking of, but there's one that has a sewn together monster, corpses and stuff, that's more what I imagine. I mean with what I'm thinking it's especially prevalent in the face, which is what makes it stand out so much more. Because I'm a face person.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:45 pm
Yeah, it was just... you know, you don't want to feel negative feelings to cultures that are different from yours, but some things you just fundamentally disagree with so much... you can't help it. Haha, I'm definitely a hair person. If someone's hair in a book is described to me in a way that is very similar to the hair of a character I know, if the characters are the same gender I'll probably imagine them looking very much alike. Never seen any horror movies with anything similar to Frankenstein's monster, so all I had to compare to was vampires, apparently. XD
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:09 pm
Exactly. I don't usually feel bad on judging morality though, well, immorality. Morality is tricky. But I don't think most have trouble justifying their disagreement with a Nazi ideal or something of that nature.
Ahh, there's no end to the amount of horror movies I've seen, that's my genre, haha. I definitely love hair, and it's definitely a big part of what initially attracts me to someone. In the end though it's going to be all about the face. Faces are about as unique as most people get (with real people), so this is what keeps me coming back at a point.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:56 pm
Yes, it's far easier to make judgments on something so far on the evil spectrum than it is on the more gray areas. Sadly, I've only been into horror movies since high school or so; I used to completely avoid them, more for fear of blood and gore than anything. I've gotten more used to putting up with that, so have started watching horror movies and absolutely love them now. I agree that faces definitely distinguish people more than hair does, but considering I pretty much lived and breathed anime most of my life, and hardly watched any live action shows/movies, it makes sense that hair would be a more distinguishing feature to my mind. Most anime characters have very similar faces to each other in their individual series, and it's the hair that really sets them apart. That must've rubbed off onto my imagination. XD
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:22 pm
Yea I loved them too much to let the fact that I'm squeamish get in the way. Also I wasn't squeamish as a kid, that came later, I'm not sure why. By then I was already hooked.
Haha, that is so true, if it weren't for hair they'd be clones for the most part. However anime is only something I got into slowly until about mid-college, so I'm still used to judging on realistic terms. I do rather love hair though, I always have.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:23 pm
Haha, that's kinda weird. I was super squeamish as a kid where I couldn't even stand the site of blood, and now it's gotten to the point where I can pretty much tolerate anything except like... skin being sawed through, organs being ripped out, skin burning, or bites that tear flesh out. Of course there will always be exceptions, just depending on how things look in the movie. Strangely enough though, needles and seeing people get injections have never bothered me at all. Yes, exactly. XD Especially with older series like Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z, they all have like the same-sized eyes and stuff. Hair is just what stands out to me.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:05 pm
Yea, I dunno, I just never know how I'll react anymore. In real life I can't stand head injuries, on the TV I just never know what will trigger me. Usually I just learn when to look away and there are parts of things I only watch once. Skin burning (weirdly enough considering my thing on burns) does not bother me as a visual, in practice it'd probably be a fear combined with smell that would trigger me, people on fire are ok though. Bites that tear flesh, especially from the face (ear, ick, hate bitten off ears) type area are also a no go. Sawed through and organs really will depend on depiction and just how badly or well done it is. Needles also don't bother me in the slightest, in real life or otherwise, although I don't particularly like having blood drawn. Mainly because it makes me really dizzy and exhausted. Watching it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be though.
Even on hair I remember getting confused in DBZ, it was just, confusing. xd
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:22 pm
For me, burns don't actually freak me out much unless they're fresh. If you can see the skin sizzling/bubbling/smoking, that's when I'm like hell no. But yeah, don't mind people on fire as long as I can't see the skin changing. Oh, and yes, though bites that tear flesh are the worse, torn flesh in general is awful. Though my least favorite is bitten necks. Thought of another thing that bothers me pretty bad, though I can usually put up with if it's not too graphic: bones protruding from skin. Ugh. Oh yeah, there are like... three DBZ characters that look pretty similar. XD The main character, his friend Yamcha, and then the main character's son when he gets older all look really similar in face and hair. Thankfully Yamcha and the son both end up cutting their hair.
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Kitsune Ketz Kwineight Captain
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JuokasKurvas Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:11 pm
Hahaha, dude I was thinking I JUST RESPONDED TO THIS ON ANOTHER THREAD! Then realized, no s**t, you wrote this post less than an hour ago after I wrote my post less than an hour ago. I am an idiot. At least I'm not losing it. Hahaha, I'm blaming residual illness!!
Any-how...*cough*... ninja ...*more coughing*
I guess after the fires gone it could be pretty gross, I guess the one thing about burning is why you are on fire, being electrocuted, etc you aren't really seeing burns or burning yet. Like bruises they are an after effect. I guess sizzling and bubbling could be gross, though smoking doesn't phase me too bad. I think the ear thing gets me because it's the one thing that gets bitten off a lot, and you don't just put your ear back on. The neck will heal mainly, scar, but heal. Bones would bug me so bad in real life (there is a reason I didn't go into medicine), in dramatization though it just depends. Usually it's really gross but again depending on how it's done it maybe doesn't bug me so much. It's definitely not sexy though. xd
Yea I don't remember names but I probably remember who you are talking about because yes they all looked like the main character. TOO CONFUSING!!! ~_~
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