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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:10 pm
@Erin: sorry to hear that sad For me comfort food is major carbs, like mac and cheese casserole or mashed potatoes. How does that grab you?

At work today, I had spicy california roll. Mmm, delicious!

Also, hugs for all!  
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:11 pm
So today I went out and got the GF 2 gifts.. aka surprises.. I know she likes Bob Marley so I got her a shirt with him on it and also The Sims 3 today! she was like omfg! best surprise ever and had a huge smile on her face...

I got me a new shirt and Left 4 Dead for my pc!  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:54 am
Fairy tales of the past were often full of macabre and gruesome twists and endings. These days, companies like Disney have sanitized them for a modern audience that is clearly deemed unable to cope, and so we see happy endings everywhere. This list looks at some of the common endings we are familiar with – and explains the original gruesome origins.

10 The Pied Piper


In the tale of the Pied Piper, we have a village overrun with rats. A man arrives dressed in clothes of pied (a patchwork of colors) and offers to rid the town of the vermin. The villagers agree to pay a vast sum of money if the piper can do it – and he does. He plays music on his pipe which draws all the rats out of the town. When he returns for payment – the villagers won’t cough up so the Pied Piper decides to rid the town of children too! In most modern variants, the piper draws the children to a cave out of the town and when the townsfolk finally agree to pay up, he sends them back. In the darker original, the piper leads the children to a river where they all drown (except a lame boy who couldn’t keep up). Some modern scholars say that there are connotations of ***** in this fairy tale.


9 Little Red Riding Hood


The version of this tale that most of us are familiar with ends with Riding Hood being saved by the woodsman who kills the wicked wolf. But in fact, the original French version (by Charles Perrault) of the tale was not quite so nice. In this version, the little girl is a well bred young lady who is given false instructions by the wolf when she asks the way to her grandmothers. Foolishly riding hood takes the advice of the wolf and ends up being eaten. And here the story ends. There is no woodsman – no grandmother – just a fat wolf and a dead Red Riding Hood. The moral to this story is to not take advice from strangers.

8 The Little Mermaid


The 1989 version of the Little Mermaid might be better known as “The big whopper!” In the Disney version, the film ends with Ariel the mermaid being changed into a human so she can marry Eric. They marry in a wonderful wedding attended by humans and merpeople. But, in the very first version by Hans Christian Andersen, the mermaid sees the Prince marry a princess and she despairs. She is offered a knife with which to stab the prince to death, but rather than do that she jumps into the sea and dies by turning to froth. Hans Christian Andersen modified the ending slightly to make it more pleasant. In his new ending, instead of dying when turned to froth, she becomes a “daughter of the air” waiting to go to heaven – so, frankly, she is still dead for all intents and purposes.

7 Snow White


In the tale of snow white that we are all familiar with, the Queen asks a huntsman to kill her and bring her heart back as proof. Instead, the huntsman can’t bring himself to do it and returns with the heart of a boar. Now, fortunately disney hasn’t done too much damage to this tale, but they did leave out one important original element: in the original tale, the Queen actually asks for Snow White’s liver and lungs – which are to be served for dinner that night! Also in the original, Snow White wakes up when she is jostled by the prince’s horse as he carries her back to his castle – not from a magical kiss. What the prince wanted to do with a dead girl’s body I will leave to your imagination. Oh – in the Grimm version, the tale ends with the Queen being forced to dance to death in red hot iron shoes!

6 Sleeping Beauty


In the original sleeping beauty, the lovely princess is put to sleep when she pricks her finger on a spindle. She sleeps for one hundred years when a prince finally arrives, kisses her, and awakens her. They fall in love, marry, and (surprise surprise) live happily ever after. But alas, the original tale is not so sweet (in fact, you have to read this to believe it.) In the original, the young woman is put to sleep because of a prophesy, rather than a curse. And it isn’t the kiss of a prince which wakes her up: the king seeing her asleep, and rather fancying having a bit, rapes her. After nine months she gives birth to two children (while she is still asleep). One of the children sucks her finger which removes the piece of flax which was keeping her asleep. She wakes up to find herself raped and the mother of two kids.

5 Rumpelstiltskin


This fair tale is a little different from the others because rather than sanitizing the original, it was modified by the original author to make it more gruesome. In the original tale, Rumpelstiltskin spins straw into gold for a young girl who faces death unless she is able to perform the feat. In return, he asks for her first born child. She agrees – but when the day comes to hand over the kid, she can’t do it. Rumpelstiltskin tells her that he will let her off the bargain if she can guess his name. She overhears him singing his name by a fire and so she guesses it correctly. Rumpelstiltskin, furious, runs away, never to be seen again. But in the updated version, things are a little messier. Rumpelstiltskin is so angry that he drives his right foot deep into the ground. He then grabs his left leg and rips himself in half. Needless to say this kills him.

4 Goldilocks and the Three Bears


In this heart warming tale, we hear of pretty little goldilocks who finds the house of the three bears. She sneaks inside and eats their food, sits in their chairs, and finally falls asleep on the bed of the littlest bear. When the bears return home they find her asleep – she awakens and escapes out the window in terror. The original tale (which actually only dates to 1837) has two possible variations. In the first, the bears find Goldilocks and rip her apart and eat her. In the second, Goldilocks is actually an old hag who (like the sanitized version) jumps out of a window when the bears wake her up. The story ends by telling us that she either broke her neck in the fall, or was arrested for vagrancy and sent to the “House of Correction”.

3 Hansel and Gretel


In the widely known version of Hansel and Gretel, we hear of two little children who become lost in the forest, eventually finding their way to a gingerbread house which belongs to a wicked witch. The children end up enslaved for a time as the witch prepares them for eating. They figure their way out and throw the witch in a fire and escape. In an earlier French version of this tale (called The Lost Children), instead of a witch we have a devil. Now the wicked old devil is tricked by the children (in much the same way as Hansel and Gretel) but he works it out and puts together a sawhorse to put one of the children on to bleed (that isn’t an error – he really does). The children pretend not to know how to get on the sawhorse so the devil’s wife demonstrates. While she is lying down the kids slash her throat and escape.

2 The Girl Without Hands


Frankly, the revised version of this fairy tale is not a great deal better than the original, but there are sufficient differences to include it here. In the new version, a poor man is offered wealth by the devil if he gives him whatever is standing behind his mill. The poor man thinks it is an apple tree and agrees – but it is actually his daughter. The devil tries to take the daughter but can’t – because she is pure, so he threatens to take the father unless the daughter allows her father to chop off her hands. She agrees and the father does the deed. Now – that is not particularly nice, but it is slightly worse in some of the earlier variants in which the young girl chops off her own arms in order to make herself ugly to her brother who is trying to rape her. In another variant, the father chops off the daughter’s hands because she refuses to let him have sex with her.

1 Cinderella


In the modern Cinderella fairy tale we have the beautiful Cinderella swept off her feet by the prince and her wicked step sisters marrying two lords – with everyone living happily ever after. The fairy tale has its origins way back in the 1st century BC where Strabo’s heroine was actually called Rhodopis, not Cinderella. The story was very similar to the modern one with the exception of the glass slippers and pumpkin coach. But, lurking behind the pretty tale is a more sinister variation by the Grimm brothers: in this version, the nasty step-sisters cut off parts of their own feet in order to fit them into the glass slipper – hoping to fool the prince. The prince is alerted to the trickery by two pigeons who peck out the step sister’s eyes. They end up spending the rest of their lives as blind beggars while Cinderella gets to lounge about in luxury at the prince’s castle.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:14 am
Wow, I had heard all of those except the real ending to Sleeping Beauty. What an awful way to wake up!  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:21 am
Most of the fairy tales were written that way to scare kids into behaving or to convey a moral point relevant to the era. That's why a lot of the people doing stupid things end up dead or injured. Or even in the case of Red Riding Hood, they serve as warnings to be more aware of ones situation and be cautious in the woods and whatnot. It wasn't usually grim for the sake of being grim.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:37 am
i sure did miss a lott of what's posted this time. blaugh  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:58 am
I've read those fairy tales books when I was a fairytale-aholic child (including these versions you mentioned, Exxos except for The Girl Without Hands which I have never heard of it). I've read so many versions to each story that I don't know which one is the original. xp Cinderella has different names (eg. Aschenputtel) as well as Snow White had a sister named Rose Red (but that's another tale to tell which is different from this Snow White). Thanks Exxos. *FLE walks away from the thread to find a story called The Girl Without Hands*

Edit: I forgot to mentioned that Cinderella was also a green thumb due to the fact that she planted a branch (or a twig) which later turned into a tree. The tree (as well as the doves) played a vital role in the story.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:23 am
I was familiar with most of those too Exxos. The rumplestiltskin one surprised me though cause i knew the original not the remade one.  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:27 am
I got back on the running horse today. I am very pleased with myself for being able to finish it. I need to regain my stamina though.

Also today was Johns first day of school. He started at a private school today. Tori starts on the 24th. I went to his open house and talked to his teacher yesterday. She seems like a very nice lady and already demonstrated her teaching skills by having john do a counting and bead and lacing exercise during the open house. Very pleased indeed. I am a little saddened that I wasn't there to drop him off on his first day of school, but I thought it was more important and better if I went to the open house. But you better believe I will be there when both he and Tori graduate.

Anybuddy going to catch the midnight showing of District 9 tonight? I will be! ^.^ woo hoo!  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:35 am
I loved all the fairy and folk tales - everything from the stories from Norway with the trolls to the Native American legends. wink

I do remember the Snow White and Rose Red story too. It's good but a little disturbing like the others because of the weird violence.

I remember when I was old enough to go to the library myself I found all the tales and myths and read as many versions of them all that I could find.

There's a Chinese version of Cinderella what was supposedly written around 850 AD. Some people believe this version was the source of the fixation on her having tiny feet.  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:11 pm
I've stumbled that list before Exxos.. and the "Sleeping Beauty" one is always the most disturbing for me.. *shivers* If stories like that were still popular today I doubt many little girls would still want to grow up to be princesses..

Hope everything is working out with the car Joe.. and please PLEASE please don't worry about being there for their graduations already lol.. cause if you're worrying about it than I have to start thinking about it.. and man they grow up fast enough as it is lol.

And just in case anyone wonders where I am over the next few days.. I'll still be online and on gaia just as much I'll just be running my mules through the camps lol.. so have no fear.. I'll be around.. just not posting quite as much.. I"ve already beaten the camp thing on this account last night.. but I'm still missing the other 3 items that you can get at level six.. which means I have to do those accounts at least that far. lol

*huggles to all*  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:20 pm
Anyone know of any good rp groups on Gaia? I play one called Changeling: The Lost in real life, and I'm hoping I can find one here. Exxos, you might like it too, it's not the standard Faerie story, it's much darker.  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:30 pm
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Anyone know of any good rp groups on Gaia? I play one called Changeling: The Lost in real life, and I'm hoping I can find one here. Exxos, you might like it too, it's not the standard Faerie story, it's much darker.


Occasionally we've had rps going in here but they tend to fizzle out when the person running it needs to devote their time elsewhere. If this is something you'd be interested in doing yourself though I'm sure there would be a few here that would join you. Personally I wouldn't want to run one but if someone else did I'd join in. (the Hobbies forum is the place for that kind of thing)  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:38 pm
So I had a class at 9 am....and my next one is at 5 pm........... xp

Kinda dead by then exclaim  

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:08 pm
Random interuption because Kuju is bored at work!! yay! blaugh

I've lost 8lb. in the last two and a half weeks! Yay!! I love Wii fit, it really works if you give it a chance. I feel so much better already. I've been eating healthy too! I am so motivated I may actually start running with my dad this weekend. 3nodding

Also there is a Beatles Convention this weekend I may go to with my littlest sister. The tickets at the door are $47 each and I know I would end up spending way too much as is the way with cons and me. But I think it would be way fun and there are going to be concerts and such. So I am still thinking about it.

So that's it for now, I will be back on later. :hugs for everyone: heart heart  
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