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 Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:16 pm
FlashbackJon yo_momma117 FlashbackJon Babbalui Wow, after reading all of that, I forgot that we were still on the topic of Tau! eek Technically, we're discussing bolters as portrayed in Firewarrior, as might be compared to other games, none of which we have threads for. sweatdrop we have a subforum dedicated to games Y'know that's funny - because we also have a subforum dedicated to 40k. which is also funny cause you mentioned that there were no games threads in the 40k forum, when there is a whole subforum for them
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:22 pm
My point stands. Feel free to check. Here's the link.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:30 pm
FlashbackJon My point stands. Feel free to check. Here's the link. it seems that I just said that they had a whole subforum for games...and thats what your showing to me...
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:31 pm
FlashbackJon Technically, we're discussing bolters as portrayed in Firewarrior, as might be compared to other games, none of which we have threads for. EDIT: I edited in some stuff while yo_ was replying, then edited it out again and posted below. stressed
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:34 pm
im missing something, i think its me, but im missing your point
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:39 pm
The point was that the bolter discussion is not, in fact, off-topic, regardless of the presence of threads it might also apply to (such as "Imperial Technology" in this forum). Particularly because the discussion of Firewarrior has no more appropriate thread than this, and that's directly what the bolter conversation referred to. (Sorry, Brookman.)
You'll also note that all current 40k computer games discussion goes here, in this subforum. As a matter of fact, with the exception of WAR and that other Warhammer game, that forum is almost entirely dedicated to Specialist Games.
Continuing to argue with you, however, is, unfortunately. You may stop mini-modding at any time and let me get in trouble with Brookman of my own accord. crying
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:42 pm
Faeruithir Ya, I played them once and ate Tau long-rifle shot. As annoying as those guns are, what I find to be most annoying is those damn railguns! A Tau player gets to decide wether he wants to wipe out whole squads of troops or annihalate every vehicle you own before you get 2/3 the way across the board. Now that sucks. The only thing I can think of to get around them is A) play with LOTS of difficult or line-of-sight blocking terrain, or B) get something like a Biel-Tan Eldar army and hit their lines by turn 2 with the use of wave serpents and tank-shock the crap out of everything with guns a'blazing. I've heard rumors that deep strike stuff works well too. Little late for me to say this, but the Deep Strike works very well against Tau, my friend, a Space Wolf player, Deep Strikes his entire army in Drop Pods, and he just slaughters Tau, his CC Dread, w/ heavy flamer, whiped out an entire squad in a single shooting phase, and was in assult range of another squad. Now, never have Black Templar ally with Space Wolves, and go against Tau and Eldar... expecially when the Space Wolves drop pod... it doesnt go good for the Templar...
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:06 pm
That is the thing. Tau have drop capabilities as well. Now, if there is nothing on the field in the beginning, well that is illegal I believe. You are not allowed to deep strike EVERYTHING. rolleyes Plus, it has to be on the second turn, so with that one turn that you have, find a place that you can defend in. 3nodding And remember, if they miss and deepstrike on you, they die immediatly. 3nodding So, I do not know how experienced you are, but I thought I would just tell you in case you don't know any of those things. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:46 am
Masada So guys what are your past six results with your Tau army? Just curious and tryig to strike up a convo. Well mine have been a loss, loss, loss, draw, win, loss. Yeah I am having a bit of a bad run of results. I particularly did not like my third loss put of that lot. Cause I lost to my friends nid army and I can never seem to win against them. I nearly did this time except I crumbled on the last turn. I will get him next time it is only a matter of time. Win, win, win, loss, win, win. If you're having trouble with 'Nids, check the terrain on the board. With legal lists and the proper amount of Terrain, Tau and Nids should be trading wins on about a 50/50 basis. With too much terrain, like in CoD, Nids will tear Tau a new one, and with too little, the Nids will get shredded before reaching combat. icer190 Little late for me to say this, but the Deep Strike works very well against Tau, my friend, a Space Wolf player, Deep Strikes his entire army in Drop Pods, and he just slaughters Tau, his CC Dread, w/ heavy flamer, whiped out an entire squad in a single shooting phase, and was in assult range of another squad. Now, never have Black Templar ally with Space Wolves, and go against Tau and Eldar... expecially when the Space Wolves drop pod... it doesnt go good for the Templar... Meh, I'm unimpressed by Drop-pod armies. Unless it's Drop-pod Boo, I'd reasonably confident of my ability to avoid getting hammered by the drop. As with most reserve armies, his force will generally come in piecemeal, and I can concentrate fire on one unit at a time. If he does get lucky, then I don't have too much to worry about since I only have three static elements in my army. Everything else can simply move away. Oh, and Babbalui, there's nothing illegal about having your whole army in reserve, unless it's something special like a Webway Strike Force or Daemonbomb army. Lists that require some units to be on the table. Also, with drop pods, you don't have to worry about dying with a DS onto enemy troops; the pod forces the enemy to move as in a tank shock.
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:17 pm
Wait, I am talking about a general deep strike though. neutral
So, if I wanted I could have an entire army of jumpsuits (the 21 that I brag about with Farsight) along with a squad or two of firewarriors and have all of the jumpsuits in reserve. What would that do? Can't you only drop one a turn?
Also, in the rules it says that a deep striking squad that scatters and lands in another squad, the deep striking squad is annihilated as if being shot down by enemy fire. Nothing in my army can deep strike besides jumpsuits and drones, so they are all killed instantly if they hit another squad, another downfall of the Tau. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:57 pm
Babbalui Wait, I am talking about a general deep strike though. neutral So, if I wanted I could have an entire army of jumpsuits (the 21 that I brag about with Farsight) along with a squad or two of firewarriors and have all of the jumpsuits in reserve. What would that do? Can't you only drop one a turn? Also, in the rules it says that a deep striking squad that scatters and lands in another squad, the deep striking squad is annihilated as if being shot down by enemy fire. Nothing in my army can deep strike besides jumpsuits and drones, so they are all killed instantly if they hit another squad, another downfall of the Tau. sweatdrop Ah, apologies. It seemed like you were typing a rebuttal to the "Drop-podding Space Wolves pwn Tau" post. Yes, Tau don't have any protected Deep Strikers or delivery systems like Drop Pods and Monoliths. You're right, all Tau Deep Strikes come with inherent risk because of the possible deviation onto enemies. However, there's nothing wrong with having all Fire Warriors mounted in Devilfish and lots of Crisis suits and Hammerheads. With a mechanized list, you would start with nothing on the table in Escalation. And you aren't limited to one Deep Strike per turn. You're only limited to bringing on one unit a turn if you use the Positional Relay special-issue wargear.
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:56 am
What do you mean by "protected" deep strikers?
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:50 am
I mean things like Drop Pods and Monoliths; things that rather than be destroyed when they land on enemy troops, push them out of the way. Anything Deep Striking via Drop Pod is protected in this way. All you have to worry about is scattering off the table, which can be avoided if you just stay 12" away from a board edge.
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:47 am
Oryn Babbalui Wait, I am talking about a general deep strike though. neutral So, if I wanted I could have an entire army of jumpsuits (the 21 that I brag about with Farsight) along with a squad or two of firewarriors and have all of the jumpsuits in reserve. What would that do? Can't you only drop one a turn? Also, in the rules it says that a deep striking squad that scatters and lands in another squad, the deep striking squad is annihilated as if being shot down by enemy fire. Nothing in my army can deep strike besides jumpsuits and drones, so they are all killed instantly if they hit another squad, another downfall of the Tau. sweatdrop Ah, apologies. It seemed like you were typing a rebuttal to the "Drop-podding Space Wolves pwn Tau" post. Yes, Tau don't have any protected Deep Strikers or delivery systems like Drop Pods and Monoliths. You're right, all Tau Deep Strikes come with inherent risk because of the possible deviation onto enemies. However, there's nothing wrong with having all Fire Warriors mounted in Devilfish and lots of Crisis suits and Hammerheads. With a mechanized list, you would start with nothing on the table in Escalation. And you aren't limited to one Deep Strike per turn. You're only limited to bringing on one unit a turn if you use the Positional Relay special-issue wargear. Well, I am a good year away from my mechanized army. sweatdrop I am still stuck with my same list. I don't have more than 7 battlesuits, 3 broadsides, 1 hammer head and one devilfish. 3nodding I have ground troops, but I am speaking in terms of mechanizing. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:00 pm
Well, I went to GW today and complained to one of the employees (They had a lot of time on their hands, the place was EMPTY). He went and looked at the orders and found that my 2 O'Shavah arms were actually in and have been the entire time! stressed The other employee was just screwing with me! Why? I have no idea and the other employees are wondering why that is as well. sweatdrop
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