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 Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:30 pm
DarkElf27 Watch the Kidnapping Kovash one, they depict bolters quite well. Hey, yeah. That was damn accurate. smile Oryn FlashbackJon DarkElf27 The Bolter rounds are about the size of a film canister, far bigger than modern rounds, and with much more explosives in them. In fact, they're a miniature RPG. Like many rocket-propelled explosive, the gun merely "ejects" them, after which an internal propellent is fired and carries the explosive to its target. Not at all like they ever been depicted in video games. (Didn't look at the videos above yet though...) Actually, Bolters are not RPG's. They are, literally, rocket propelled explosive rounds, but what we call a rocket propelled grenade (RPG) is actually an English interpretation of the Russian "Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot" which actually translates closer to "handheld antitank grenade-launcher" and is a rocket with a shaped charge, not a grenade. So... wait... It's not an RPG, it's a rocket-propelled explosive... but what we call an "RPG" is actually a rocket-propelled explosive? Am I missing something here?
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:47 pm
FlashbackJon So... wait... It's not an RPG, it's a rocket-propelled explosive... but what we call an "RPG" is actually a rocket-propelled explosive? Am I missing something here? Yeah. Bolters fire rocket-propelled rounds that have a fragmentary explosive in them. They are true RPG's. However, what people know as the weapon, the RPG, isn't a grenade. It's an anti-tank rocket. I was making the distinction.
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:50 pm
Oryn FlashbackJon So... wait... It's not an RPG, it's a rocket-propelled explosive... but what we call an "RPG" is actually a rocket-propelled explosive? Am I missing something here? Yeah. Bolters fire rocket-propelled rounds that have a fragmentary explosive in them. They are true RPG's. However, what people know as the weapon, the RPG, isn't a grenade. It's an anti-tank rocket. I was making the distinction. That's where I was confused, the first line of your post was "Bolters are not RPG's." sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:52 pm
Yeah. I meant Bolter's are not analogues of real-world RPG's, but of the actual term, rocket-propelled grenade.
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:52 pm
Hold the phone!
How are bolter rounds rocket proppelled?
Then they aren't actually rounds...
And the weapon couldn't possibly be rapid fire...
And it wouldn't have a reason to have a bolt on the side...
Plus.. if the rounds flew that slow... races like eldar would like... effing dance out of their way.
Space marines would be even MORE hopeless against harlequins! xd
The ingame bolter is pretty cool for Fire Warrior. It has a single shot and 2 round burst style, probably trying to stay true to the table top game and it's rules for rapid fire.
But I do not believe that bolters use RPG type ammunition...
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:00 pm
Andreis Hold the phone! How are bolter rounds rocket proppelled? Then they aren't actually rounds... And the weapon couldn't possibly be rapid fire... And it wouldn't have a reason to have a bolt on the side... Plus.. if the rounds flew that slow... races like eldar would like... effing dance out of their way. Space marines would be even MORE hopeless against harlequins! xd The ingame bolter is pretty cool for Fire Warrior. It has a single shot and 2 round burst style, probably trying to stay true to the table top game and it's rules for rapid fire. But I do not believe that bolters use RPG type ammunition... Bolters are rocket propelled. Just look at the first couple lines in the Inquisitor entry on Bolters: "Bolt weapons launch a projectile with a mass-reactive warhead. Each bolt is rocket propelled and explodes inside the target, causing considerable damage with its distinctive cracking detonation." The way they work, each bolt clears the barrel by conventional powder, then after clearing the barrel the rocket engine kicks in and the bolt takes off.
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:02 pm
Andreis Hold the phone! How are bolter rounds rocket proppelled? Then they aren't actually rounds... And the weapon couldn't possibly be rapid fire... And it wouldn't have a reason to have a bolt on the side... Plus.. if the rounds flew that slow... races like eldar would like... effing dance out of their way. Space marines would be even MORE hopeless against harlequins! xd The ingame bolter is pretty cool for Fire Warrior. It has a single shot and 2 round burst style, probably trying to stay true to the table top game and it's rules for rapid fire. But I do not believe that bolters use RPG type ammunition... It's old fluff. The second edition Wargear book (from the boxed set) covered it in detail - I've been meaning to check the new Wargear book to see if it mentions it. Regardless, the "shell casings" discrepancy has been pointed out many times, but it could certainly be rapid fire if build correctly to accomodate.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:56 am
BACK to Tau and Kroot please, take all bolter chatter to the tech or whatever it's called thread.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:12 pm
Wow, after reading all of that, I forgot that we were still on the topic of Tau! eek
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:19 pm
Babbalui Wow, after reading all of that, I forgot that we were still on the topic of Tau! eek Technically, we're discussing bolters as portrayed in Firewarrior, as might be compared to other games, none of which we have threads for. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:49 pm
FlashbackJon Babbalui Wow, after reading all of that, I forgot that we were still on the topic of Tau! eek Technically, we're discussing bolters as portrayed in Firewarrior, as might be compared to other games, none of which we have threads for. sweatdrop we have a subforum dedicated to games
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:55 pm
So guys what are your past six results with your Tau army? Just curious and tryig to strike up a convo. Well mine have been a loss, loss, loss, draw, win, loss. Yeah I am having a bit of a bad run of results. I particularly did not like my third loss put of that lot. Cause I lost to my friends nid army and I can never seem to win against them. I nearly did this time except I crumbled on the last turn. I will get him next time it is only a matter of time.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:08 pm
Masada So guys what are your past six results with your Tau army? Just curious and tryig to strike up a convo. Well mine have been a loss, loss, loss, draw, win, loss. Yeah I am having a bit of a bad run of results. I particularly did not like my third loss put of that lot. Cause I lost to my friends nid army and I can never seem to win against them. I nearly did this time except I crumbled on the last turn. I will get him next time it is only a matter of time. Well, I only have one commander and a squad of firewarriors, yet I always beat my cousins space marines try using kroot meatshields if you dont already, use them to drive the nids off while firewarriors move back and then level them out.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:13 pm
yo_momma117 FlashbackJon Babbalui Wow, after reading all of that, I forgot that we were still on the topic of Tau! eek Technically, we're discussing bolters as portrayed in Firewarrior, as might be compared to other games, none of which we have threads for. sweatdrop we have a subforum dedicated to games Y'know that's funny - because we also have a subforum dedicated to 40k.
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