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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:56 pm
Nick Joseph Fury Or what? We've clearly established that this is a no die zone, so I don't see what that arrogant little b*****d could really do... He can talk your ear off.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:59 pm
Natalia Romanova And once here we all start acting "weird"?
I don't feel like I'm acting weird. I feel like I'm reacting to situations that I find myself in. That is all. "Weird" is too loaded and frankly biased of a term. Like I said, Brianiac 5 is married to absolute order because chaos is difficult to predict, quantify, and control. It's a natural scientific bias. Frankly we don't know much about the nature of the nexus and how it might affect sentient beings, so speculating too hard is pointless. There's a fringe science hypothesis about something called a morphogenetic field. The mainstream biological definition is a force that guides an organism as it grows. For example, in the human body, cells listen to discreet biochemical signals that tell them to form certain organs. The fringe hypothesis is that there is a wide pseudo-psychic field of human knowledge that can, in theory, be tapped into. The common urban legend associated with this is that if you have a test that a large class is doing the next day, you should wait to study until later in the day after most of your classmates have completed their studying because their combined efforts create a net effect on the morphic field that makes it easier on you. So as far as an explanation for people here knowing and doing things they shouldn't be able to, it's as good as any. Borges once wrote "I feel that every man should be capable of every idea, and in the future this will be true," or something to that effect. It's romantic, but I like it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:03 pm
::Looks at Tony Thoughtfully::
Hmm..
::Goes back to her Lemonade::
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:07 pm
Ricochet Rita Which has yet to happen, and was a challenge to someone in the first place. Needless to say, a single variance is somewhat different than full-fledged chaos. Who do you know so thoroughly well that you're able to deduce "full-fledged chaos"? You're Spiral. Please tell me about Brianiac 5, or Patience. You can't? Because you're not from their world and have not interacted with them outside of the Nexus- and thus lack a foundation on which to make a solid judgment? Shocking.
I get what you're saying. In theory some people are "affected" and act "weirder" then others- and no you don't have to know every single person to put such a theory forth. I was just making a point which would be;
But what practical purpose does it serve you to worry about it?
I agree with Tony that trying to wrap our brains around this is "pointless". And people will just get hurt.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:09 pm
Frankly, I'm more than a little bit worried that there is some big giant monster waiting for the perfect time to harvest shards of some massive cosmic force from us and conquer the metaverse. Stranger things have happened to me over the years.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:12 pm
::Shrinks and sits on Tony's shoulder::
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:12 pm
Quote: Ricochet Rita Which has yet to happen, and was a challenge to someone in the first place. Needless to say, a single variance is somewhat different than full-fledged chaos. Who do you know so thoroughly well that you're able to deduce "full-fledged chaos"? You're Spiral. Please tell me about Brianiac 5, or Patience. You can't? Because you're not from their world and have not interacted with them outside of the Nexus- and thus lack a foundation on which to make a solid judgment? Shocking.
I get what you're saying. In theory some people are "affected" and act "weirder" then others- and no you don't have to know every single person to put such a theory forth. I was just making a point which would be;
But what practical purpose does it serve you to worry about it? I see all dimensions. I can go anywhere i want and observe whatever I wish. I doubt the same can be said of you. It's simply a disturbing trend. A wrong, as it were. And while you may be content to accept a wrong, simply letting it wash over you like a child in bathwater I choose to see a problem as it exists and bring it to light. stare
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:18 pm
Ms Janet van Dyne ::Shrinks and sits on Tony's shoulder:: *Looks over and smiles.* Well Natalia, there's no real point in trying to argue the point with Spiral. Anyone trying to ascribe objective judgments to the nature of cosmic forces is trying to bottle the wind. What is of course important to remember is that anyone arguing that the metaverse ought to conform to this or that principle or iteration has vested interests in doing so rather than marveling at the beauty and complexity that occurs when chaos emerges in what was- until then- regarded as a paragon of complete order.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:18 pm
Ricochet Rita I see all dimensions. I can go anywhere i want and observe whatever I wish. I doubt the same can be said of you. It's simply a disturbing trend. A wrong, as it were. And while you may be content to accept a wrong, simply letting it wash over you like a child in bathwater I choose to see a problem as it exists and bring it to light. stare You're bringing to light "problems" because your only goal is to make people feel bad and hurt feelings- because for some reason you think people "acting strange" is some dire "wrong".
Again: What practical purpose does this serve?
Actually never mind. Tony is right. Do whatever the ******** you want.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:22 pm
::flies down and makes him outstretch his hand so she can sit on it::
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:23 pm
Quote: Ricochet Rita I see all dimensions. I can go anywhere i want and observe whatever I wish. I doubt the same can be said of you. It's simply a disturbing trend. A wrong, as it were. And while you may be content to accept a wrong, simply letting it wash over you like a child in bathwater I choose to see a problem as it exists and bring it to light. stare Your bringing to light "problems" because your only goal is to make people feel bad and hurt feelings- because for some reason you think people "acting strange" is some dire "wrong".
Again: What practical purpose does this serve?I believe you're reading too much into things. Pointing out that something doesn't feel right is in no way meant to do any of what you're saying, Natalia It's simply pointing out to point out. Weird as anything else, is relative, and simply pointing out that welldefined patterns and established parameters are skewing is simply that. Pointing them out. Indeed, what Practical purpose dos anything serve, grand scheme-wise?
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:26 pm
Ricochet Rita I believe you're reading too much into things. No. I'm pretty positive I'm reading this exactly for what it really is.
But I'm done.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:26 pm
*Opens his palm*
You know, I've learned that the less you try to resist chaos and the more you flow with it and learn to adapt to it, the better off you are. We all struggle to impose our paradigms on this place and what happens here, but we all ultimately end in failure. It's all quite reminiscent of that old saying about irresistible forces and immovable objects.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:31 pm
*Gets up and paces around the room.*
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:32 pm
By the very nature of the nexus there is an order, a simple unspoken set of guidelines that dictate the overall flow. Sure, you can preach Chaos against order, but even a slight shift n a way that you don't care for and your tail tucks and you take your ball and leave. One of the established patterns, that. In the end, there's always an order. Most can see only the small, limited zone that they concern themselves with, while others are more big-picture. Poking the Chaos bear for sake of doing so is simply testing the limits of the place, and will ultimately end in failure as well.
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