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 Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:43 am
Yeah...you really do need to read over their Codex.
For one, all units in current edition rulebooks come pre-armed with something. A Warboss would come with a Choppa and a Slugga.
Also...I've never seen someone fail that hard with Zzap Gunz. You need to re-read their rules hardcore before you play again. Zzap Gunz autohit, making them potentially more effective. Then you roll 2d6 to determine the strength of the shot.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:47 am
Zzap guns don't auto-hit anymore, the rulebook do say they autohit but they don't, the rulebook is just a copy-pasta work.
The zzap gun use the Grot BS of 3 as there is no entry at all in the ork codex that they automaticly hit.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:58 am
Well I'll be dipped. Guess I've got some hypocrisy going there. Still, BS3 on a potentially S10 gun reeeeeally isn't all that bad.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:24 pm
Caleidah
Well I'll be dipped. Guess I've got some hypocrisy going there. Still, BS3 on a potentially S10 gun reeeeeally isn't all that bad.Indeed. They're my personal favorite big gunz -Runt herder for life
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:08 pm
Oh, most definitely. By averages, Zzap guns should be insta-killing Guard characters. They have a 1/3 likelihood of being able to insta-kill Marine toughness. Lovely, lovely, lovely.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:42 am
Yet on a battlewagon, it still sucks. I have one mounted in the hull of my russ-chassis battlewagon, and I just love the way it looks too much to much to try and convert a new weapon it it's spot, besides, this beast is already overloaded with shootas anyway, I can't add anymore guns.
The auto-hitting feature of the old zzapper was the reason i loved it so much. Sure, you cannot overload the weapon anymore by rolling higher than ten, but I wish I could actually hit something with it from time to time.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:07 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:15 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:37 am
The Ork player friend of mine will be greatly pleased. He's been wanting to kit up a new Battlewagon for a long while, but hasn't had a proper Deffrolla. His old BW is a Mage Knight Steam Behemoth that he's ripped the top cannon off of to make it open topped.
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:44 pm
Hehe.
Nyeh, I'm thinking of making a purely tournament-based army fielding Deffskulls... I don't know what to pick apart from hordes of shoota boyz and 15 lootas, and of course a looted wagon~
I'm pretty eager to use the upcomming plastics in the force, which I might now when I think about it...
I'll try to make a sample list someday soon and playtest it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:08 pm
Big Mek with SAG? Flash Gitz?
Lootas are a definite, though. Hell, three squads of fifteen would be completely amazing. Sure it'd be spendy, but it'd work.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:17 pm
We'll see if I will use a SAG Mek, might or might not, I'm thinking of a pretty heavy 20-25 ork sized mobs (perhaps 4-5 of them?), 15 lootas, looted wagon, grots (objective holders), but we'll see, I'm going to look around the net a bit this week looking for good tournie tips.
I don't think I'm gonna use flash gits since they're not that Deff-skully but rather bad moon and freeboota (plus the ones I own are freebootas to the boots with their pirate outfits).
But I'm going to look over it, would be nice to have Badrukk and his boyz along, but I don't know how that would be in a competative way. wink
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:05 pm
Your Deffskulls have sought out the services of Badrukk and his boyz, a bit like the war of Dakka maybe? A warboss has a lot of shootas but just not enough, so he employs Kaptinn Badrukk and his boyz for some extra dakka!
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:03 pm
That sounds like a plan Blodwynn~ Since my original plan is actually to outshoot the enemy with masses of shootaboyz and lootas.
And I think I've decided to go with 3 30 boy shoota mobz, dunno what special weapons I want yet, minimum one unit with rokkits tho', and powerklaw nobz with bosspoles~
This is gonna be a hell to paint up... D:
I need a test-boy!
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:47 am
Merry Christmas my greenies! The official GW Stompa kit coming Spring 2009! Let me hear you scream Waaagh! wink 
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