|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:31 pm
ImNoHero Alright guys, sorry I been busy. I'm addressing issues and judge calls now as well as catching up on fights. And remember, I don't back read the OOC, so if you need me quote at least, or for best results PM me. 3nodding ....... I'm not touching that Athena OutlawD fight. I really really can't do that again.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:34 pm
I wish my fight didn't slow to the crawl of molasses. We've been disputing one issue for over a week.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:34 pm
themightyjello Nope, in GTB I have to calculate wind resistance to determine who hits the ground first. In Soviet GTB, telescoping spear breaks you!!!
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:46 pm
I mean come on guys, it's my first tournament.
Apparently I had really low standards and a lot of faith in the majority if not all of you and that was my mistake. But I believe this thing can fly without all the super strict bullshit laid out in other tournament rubrics.
Regardless, I am making my mistakes, and by the time the next round starts, I'll have learned from some of them. Other than this all I can tell anyone is fight or leave...
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:52 pm
ImNoHero But I believe this thing can fly without all the super strict bullshit laid out in other tournament rubrics. Unfortunately my wealth of experience in SPECIFICALLY THIS AREA tells me that you're just being hopeful. You really do have to cater to the lowest common denominator with these things and it's not always because you expect complete retards to be knocking on your door... it's because you need the ground rules to be ironclad and completely impossible to misinterpret. Because whether by accident or intent, people will.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:52 pm
I think the point of learning is to change for the better. Better to do what you think is right and be wrong than do nothing and expect things to work themselves out.
I admit I was really disappointed when your response was "I'll handle it in the judging" because if inappropriate things are being done during fights, and losing said fights deducts from your score, than you're sort of screwing people.
Judge calls are people asking for action. If you respond to them with "I will take no action" then I can only lament and move on. So I shall. Luckily, my opponent is incredibly reasonable.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:32 pm
Swift and decisive Judge calls are absolutely necessary, especially if who wins the fight is determined by ICly who wins the fight.
The only way "just shut up and fight" works is if the actual outcome of the IC fight isn't relevant.
Which to an extent I'm ok with, but I doubt that is what is happening here.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:33 pm
What exactly is the issue that brought upon the judge call?
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:36 pm
The trouble with my fight is that my opponent is very stubborn, and has that battle arena mindset instilled him in. Even if I choose to go with what he wants to do, it undermines my posts of Athena playing smart, and I won't get anywhere really cause then he'll just use it as an excuse to pull off more stuff. And he'll be justified cause "I let him", even if it was out of courtesy of moving the fight along.
This is one of those instances where two people with different ideas of roleplaying clash.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:42 pm
Glorious Athena The trouble with my fight is that my opponent is very stubborn, and has that battle arena mindset instilled him in. Even if I choose to go with what he wants to do, it undermines my posts of Athena playing smart, and I won't get anywhere really cause then he'll just use it as an excuse to pull off more stuff. And he'll be justified cause "I let him", even if it was out of courtesy of moving the fight along. This is one of those instances where two people with different ideas of roleplaying clash. I actually have been reading your fight and I must say that despite our differences, I feel bad for you. Like you said, even if you gave this guy what he wants, it wouldn't result in a fight that is any more worthy of being read. Because based on the way it reads, apparently your opponent wants to hit an Izuna drop, resenge or whatever that thing is called on you right out of the gate after using 10 powers in one post. I think you and your opponent need to have a sit down and a come to jesus talk, where you both decide what you want this fight to be. Do you want this to be a boring read where you guys constantly cut each others metaphorical dicks off, or do you want it to be something that is fun to read. That will take give on both your parts.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:45 pm
Tres Ecstuffuan Glorious Athena The trouble with my fight is that my opponent is very stubborn, and has that battle arena mindset instilled him in. Even if I choose to go with what he wants to do, it undermines my posts of Athena playing smart, and I won't get anywhere really cause then he'll just use it as an excuse to pull off more stuff. And he'll be justified cause "I let him", even if it was out of courtesy of moving the fight along. This is one of those instances where two people with different ideas of roleplaying clash. I actually have been reading your fight and I must say that despite our differences, I feel bad for you. Like you said, even if you gave this guy what he wants, it wouldn't result in a fight that is any more worthy of being read. Because based on the way it reads, apparently your opponent wants to hit an Izuna drop, resenge or whatever that thing is called on you right out of the gate after using 10 powers in one post. I think you and your opponent need to have a sit down and a come to jesus talk, where you both decide what you want this fight to be. Do you want this to be a boring read where you guys constantly cut each others metaphorical dicks off, or do you want it to be something that is fun to read. That will take give on both your parts. I pretty much wrote that in a PM to Hero and warned him what would happen if I replied to the post as it is. It'll slow down again because Athena is going to punish him significantly for trying to do any sort of grappling with her. It's obvious what Bojuka wants. Otherwise, he would have PM'd respectfully. This is a case I was talking about before where he doesn't really have an obligation to respect what I want. That's why I'm not really disappointed him for it as much as I am that he just speedhacked five thousand actions in one post, with no sequence to either.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:51 pm
Okami was (still is most likely) like this... I simply powered through the bullshit.
It was kind of a gamble because Vin decided that the opponent slicing my character's hand off at the wrist with finger-tip blades while grappled in a bear hug and on fire was equally a legitimate threat to the hold I had.
Then I got penalized for grappling with a mage character, even though Garzahd is most potent in close-mid range.
*shrug*
In the end I think its a no-win scenario so just cleave through the bullshit and let the opponent do the crying, not you.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:54 pm
Honestly, you're right. In the end, all I can do is post and trudge through it in my own style.
I'll go post then.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:03 pm
Glorious Athena Tres Ecstuffuan Glorious Athena The trouble with my fight is that my opponent is very stubborn, and has that battle arena mindset instilled him in. Even if I choose to go with what he wants to do, it undermines my posts of Athena playing smart, and I won't get anywhere really cause then he'll just use it as an excuse to pull off more stuff. And he'll be justified cause "I let him", even if it was out of courtesy of moving the fight along. This is one of those instances where two people with different ideas of roleplaying clash. I actually have been reading your fight and I must say that despite our differences, I feel bad for you. Like you said, even if you gave this guy what he wants, it wouldn't result in a fight that is any more worthy of being read. Because based on the way it reads, apparently your opponent wants to hit an Izuna drop, resenge or whatever that thing is called on you right out of the gate after using 10 powers in one post. I think you and your opponent need to have a sit down and a come to jesus talk, where you both decide what you want this fight to be. Do you want this to be a boring read where you guys constantly cut each others metaphorical dicks off, or do you want it to be something that is fun to read. That will take give on both your parts. I pretty much wrote that in a PM to Hero and warned him what would happen if I replied to the post as it is. It'll slow down again because Athena is going to punish him significantly for trying to do any sort of grappling with her. It's obvious what Bojuka wants. Otherwise, he would have PM'd respectfully. This is a case I was talking about before where he doesn't really have an obligation to respect what I want. That's why I'm not really disappointed him for it as much as I am that he just speedhacked five thousand actions in one post, with no sequence to either. I mean I understand. I didn't like the way Bojouka NO Ued you. While I understand his argument of, you can't suddenly back peddle after charging, one must play with at least some decorum and respect for the opponent. Your not going to hit an izuna drop on someone 3 post into a fight and nor should you. This is the tournament of champions not the tournament of Jobbers and red shirts. The fact is, so as to not be a hypocrite, I soft-countered Slash in a very similar way as Bojouka for reasons that I felt at the time were logical. I think its the judges job to step in and deliver a fair judgement, which they did in my fight and in my opinion that swift fair judgement saved my fight. I hope they do the same for you. In your situation, I don't know how I feel about Bojouka's chain thing. At first I envisioned something like scorpions 'spear' since he made alliterations to a soldier of troy throwing a spear. So Athena tries to catch it, and then the chain just magically wraps around her...which Is what I guessed happened..... I think, perhaps there might have been a better way for you to have responded to it, I probably wouldn't have grabbed it but I see what you were going for...but in your defense, why on gods green earth they let in the equivalent of: The chains have enough strength to break your bones, snapping your elbows simply by squeezing. When people read the profile, didn't the idea of super long bladed prehensile limbs that have super strength raise any flags. That would be like Omi giving his snakes super strength. Now at the same time, this dude can call upon a reflect spell that can stop the force of a warhammer thrown with full strength. All while he has super strength, super speed... I mean...Come on? That isn't to say that Athena is or is not broken, I haven't seen enough of Athena do anything to say either way. My concern of the CoC still is the allowance of ridiculously powerful stuff.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:11 pm
.....Wow after like so many years the Eighth Gate is being unleashed. Once I start something I see it to the end.
So when are the rounds ending exactly? I love to do more, but its the luck of the draw.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|