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Paul was not a Catholic nore was it the first chruch. Back then they would ask if your of the way, meaning Jesus. Denomination means divison and Jesus never ment for His children to be divide from each other. The problem is after the Catholic chruch was going, they feel into the same ditch as the priest in the temple. Some diss agree with leaving God's way and doing things religously and broke away to serve Jesus. This is the cause for most denomination coming into being. I don't care if it is Roman Catholic or Southern Baptist, each denomination has took part of God's way out and put man's way in.

This is why we need to get away from what a denomination says and turn to what the bible says. Remember, only two out of seven churches in Revelation was Jesus pleased with.

Ephese, Jesus was please with their don't give up and not being lazy but they left their first love which is Jesus and was rapped up in church tradition. In verse five, it states that this church was fallen away. But they hate the Nicolaitans' works which Jesus also hated. Nicolaitans would drag the Christian at this time into cult and you can see that today in some churches across different denomination.

Pergamos had a problem as well. They fallowed the doctrine of Balaam which is teaching the word for money. God does not like beggers but you get it today. From some preist saying you have to pay them for them(the priest) to pray for someone, to people on TV begging you to send them money.

Thyatira, if you llok up in history, you'll find they worship apollo or the young male figure. If you also knotice that apollo is the roote word for apollyon which is one of the name for satan.

Sardis problem was they where in a merchant town. They became much like during King Solomon with many different beliefs and veiw from other religoens.

Philadelphia is one of the two that Jesus was please with. Not only did they not deni Jesus but taught His word fromthe word. The taught that the kenites are out there and they clame to be Jews(House of Judah) but are not.

Laodiceans would sit in the middle of the road and do nothing. We would called them pew potatoes(like a couch potatoe) today. Jesus would rathe for them to do something, least they learn from their mistakes.

I don't know if anyone's already asked this but, where in the bible does it say anything about Popes? Or Cardianls? Or Saints? Or Preists? Or monks? Or nuns?

The term 'Preist', as well as the religious costumes and incense, etc., comes from the Jewish religion.

I too said "sounds."

Maybe so, but what is the Christian religon but a fulfillment of the Jewish faith?

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1993/9309frs.asp
that might answer a couple of your questions, as for Cardinals, think of it this way, "where in the bible does it talk about 'music ministers' or the such?" Cardinal is just a posistion of advision in the Church, they advise the Pope (i'll tell you about him later) and choose his sucessor (actually, the Holy Spirit chooses the Pope through the Cardinals). As for the Pope, Jesus gave Peter the "keys to Heaven and earth," whatever the church "bound on earth, would be bound in Heaven, and whatever they loosed on earth, would be loosed in Heaven." Peter was given a special privelage, he was "the Rock upon which Christ would build his church." Heh, also, remember when Peter sunk in the water? 'Sunk like a rock.' God's own pun! LOL.

This argument is kinda pointless is it not? biggrin

I dont want to sound like a ***** here but can you please perhaps provide me some scripture. That would be great heart