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Twindream

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:02 pm


Cushirama
First off Tifa and anyone. Tifa's a stalker......::personal opinion:: Oh except mabey for Barret.....yeah ok then mabey not x.x.

Vincent/Lucrecia EWWWWW I MEAN LUCRECIA DID HOJO!!!! EW EW EW EW EW EW EW. Plus she DID experiment upon Vincent.....DUH!
Vincent/Yuffie......Do you really think Vincent would stand that.....I mean come on. Shes ANNOYING!

Sephiroth/Aeris .... stare Do I need to say anything?

Zack/Aeris Its Cloud and Aeris ppl if anything. Zacky and Axy work better >w<

ROSSO AND ANYTHING!!!!!! ::dies::

Hojo can only be with himself, and his fantasies about silver haired men....."My Precious" ::twitch::


...What.the.hell? Seriously.....if you can't say anything civil without providing a thorough explanation then please keep your comments to yourself. If I recall, Tifa and Barret were not stalkers. In fact, I don't recall any MOMENT in the game that showed a slight HINT of stalking. I prove my point.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:29 am


This thread is scaring me, too. D;

All the haaatred....;-; For my lovely Clerith and VinLuc, too! xD

Come now! Let's looove. <33 Not hate. xDD

leafeyon


iResilience

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:24 pm


Cushirama
First off Tifa and anyone. Tifa's a stalker......::personal opinion:: Oh except mabey for Barret.....yeah ok then mabey not x.x.

Vincent/Lucrecia EWWWWW I MEAN LUCRECIA DID HOJO!!!! EW EW EW EW EW EW EW. Plus she DID experiment upon Vincent.....DUH!
Vincent/Yuffie......Do you really think Vincent would stand that.....I mean come on. Shes ANNOYING!

Sephiroth/Aeris .... stare Do I need to say anything?

Zack/Aeris Its Cloud and Aeris ppl if anything. Zacky and Axy work better >w<

ROSSO AND ANYTHING!!!!!! ::dies::

Hojo can only be with himself, and his fantasies about silver haired men....."My Precious" ::twitch::


*Twitch* I didn't think this was possible, but, I'm kinda mad. Firstly, don't dare call Tifa a stalker, even if it's your opinion, you can't go bashing characters without proof, and this isn't a character bashing thread, you have no proof to back it up that I wouldn't be able to counter. Secondly, give facts please. You sound as if you're just throwing things out there because you decided to jump on the bandwagon.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:31 pm


NerotheSable7714
Cushirama
First off Tifa and anyone. Tifa's a stalker......::personal opinion:: Oh except mabey for Barret.....yeah ok then mabey not x.x.

Vincent/Lucrecia EWWWWW I MEAN LUCRECIA DID HOJO!!!! EW EW EW EW EW EW EW. Plus she DID experiment upon Vincent.....DUH!
Vincent/Yuffie......Do you really think Vincent would stand that.....I mean come on. Shes ANNOYING!

Sephiroth/Aeris .... stare Do I need to say anything?

Zack/Aeris Its Cloud and Aeris ppl if anything. Zacky and Axy work better >w<

ROSSO AND ANYTHING!!!!!! ::dies::

Hojo can only be with himself, and his fantasies about silver haired men....."My Precious" ::twitch::


*Twitch* I didn't think this was possible, but, I'm kinda mad. Firstly, don't dare call Tifa a stalker, even if it's your opinion, you can't go bashing characters without proof, and this isn't a character bashing thread, you have no proof to back it up that I wouldn't be able to counter. Secondly, give facts please. You sound as if you're just throwing things out there because you decided to jump on the bandwagon.

Yeah Nero! Go tell her! scream

Twindream


Korena_Love

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:31 pm


And hereby I say...
Hm...I don't like any Marlene or Shelke pairings. Marlene is a little kid and Shelke? Eh heh, she just doesn't strike me as the loving type. Anyway...!
I was reading earlier posts in this thread and I wanna know why people don't like Yuffentine? Those who think it doesn't make sense should read my long post in the Yuffentine thread. I got facts people!

And away again.
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:44 pm


Argh... CloudxTifa.
Sorry, guys. XD;;

I just think that Cloud was able to be Cloud for Aeris, but Cloud had to be some knight in shining armour for Tifa, what with the promise (that he already fulfilled once) and all. That crap would stress me out. I'd be like a chocobo that ate some questionable greens. I guess you can argue that Cloud had to be a bodyguard for Aeris, if it weren't for the fact that she didn't constantly bring it up, unlike Tifa who seemingly had to bring up the promise several times for Cloud's benefit. (I think! Haven't read the script recently.)

Now, I'm going based on FFVII only, because in FFVII:AC she (sort of) abandons the "Cloud will rescue me if I'm in a bind" mentality. But, I mean, it begins in FFVII.

HOWEVER, that is not to say I'm a CloudxAeris fan. I'm just putting my vote in for Aeris if I had to choose between Aeris and Tifa. If you brought Jessie into the equation, then I'm all over that.

Also, and most importantly, I'm sick of the childhood friends hooking up in nearly every single bleeding game/anime/show. Granted, they weren't childhood buddies, but the player believes it to be true for the first good half of the game. Ergh.
I'm done opening this can of worms.

Azure Phoenix

Dapper Conversationalist


Korena_Love

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:35 pm


And hereby I say...
Hm...I'll have to double check the script again, but I think Tifa and Aeris were equal in how often they brought up the promise/bodyguard thing. Anyway, Cloud's kinda stuck with Tifa now since Aeris is back in the lifestream with her first love, Zack. ^_^

And away again.
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:02 am


Ritz_Freak
I know theres a thread somewhere for which pairings you like, but which ones can you not stand at all?

Pairings for me:

Yuffie/Vincent: I'm sorry, but I know opposites go together, but this is two extremes. Two extremes never should go together.

Marlene/Vincent: Marlene is a little girl, may I say LITTLE GIRL. Vincent is a man. That my friends would be called MOLESTATION!!!!!

Kadaj/Sephiroth: ..........So how would they have sex if Sephiroth uses Kadaj's body to get here...............

Cloud/Marlene: See the reason for Vincent/Marlene

Feel free to debate with me but this is it fro me. What about you?




Ewww.... gotta agree with you there... molestation LOL true eek
lol I haven't seen much on Kadaj/Sephy... but EWW!!!!!!!!!!!! SERIOUSLY about what you said about Sephy using Kadaj's body to come back... ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww burning_eyes burning_eyes burning_eyes burning_eyes burning_eyes burning_eyes

Sephirothfan4223


Azure Phoenix

Dapper Conversationalist

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:07 am


Korena_Love
And hereby I say...
Hm...I'll have to double check the script again, but I think Tifa and Aeris were equal in how often they brought up the promise/bodyguard thing. Anyway, Cloud's kinda stuck with Tifa now since Aeris is back in the lifestream with her first love, Zack. ^_^

And away again.
Yes, when you put it in that context, you're right.
But mainly, I wanted to cite when Cloud was missing and Tifa's constant, "If Cloud were here, everything would be okay," in contrast to Aeris visiting him in his dream, "... and let me handle Sephiroth." She could've easily said, "I'm a Cetra and I can stop Seph, but I need you to protect me 'cause I hired your spikey-a**." XD After all, she went into the Forgotten Forest by herself, which is potentially dangerous...
Even you can argue that it really wasn't Aeris visiting him, but in that case, you can say that is the way Cloud's subconcious perceives her.
... well, anyway. *trails off*

I think what I wanted to point out was that Tifa is emotionally unstable, as seen by her dependency on Cloud, whereas Aeris is more stable, and that would be a more healthy choice for Cloud. Then again, fools in love might not always do what's best for them.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:51 pm


Anyone with Hojo.... he's so nasty and crazy! Sorry, I just can't get the image of him turning into a monster out of my head... gross~!

Cloud & Aeris. To me, I feel like Cloud is replacing what he missed or forgot in life and missing his mother. Aeris filled the side Cloud didn't have or lost which was the childish (playful) actions (since he was a solider), the loving care, gentle love, emotional support, and to be protected (since he was always expected to protect others). Aeris is more of a mother than a lover. Maybe a "childish" mother hehehe.

Also, she probably has some personalities that were similar to Zack and made him want to be near Aeris more. But when he lost Zack... he couldn't take losing Aeris which is like Zack--Those that went out of their own trouble to help Cloud and make him enjoy living. I'm probably not saying it well enough but that's how I feel. She's more of the mother figure in his life... and a boy always needs a mother no matter how old they get. But I do believe they love each other--just not the kind of love that they would hook-up.

I support Zack & Aeris' love! Cuz Aeris usually mentions Zack and even though she probably knew he can't come back... she'll always love him first and last~ Ahh, true love!

Just an opinion~

Karuroo


RanmaxHikaru

Distinct Member

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:49 am


Azure Phoenix
Korena_Love
And hereby I say...
Hm...I'll have to double check the script again, but I think Tifa and Aeris were equal in how often they brought up the promise/bodyguard thing. Anyway, Cloud's kinda stuck with Tifa now since Aeris is back in the lifestream with her first love, Zack. ^_^

And away again.
Yes, when you put it in that context, you're right.
But mainly, I wanted to cite when Cloud was missing and Tifa's constant, "If Cloud were here, everything would be okay," in contrast to Aeris visiting him in his dream, "... and let me handle Sephiroth." She could've easily said, "I'm a Cetra and I can stop Seph, but I need you to protect me 'cause I hired your spikey-a**." XD After all, she went into the Forgotten Forest by herself, which is potentially dangerous...
Even you can argue that it really wasn't Aeris visiting him, but in that case, you can say that is the way Cloud's subconcious perceives her.
... well, anyway. *trails off*

I think what I wanted to point out was that Tifa is emotionally unstable, as seen by her dependency on Cloud, whereas Aeris is more stable, and that would be a more healthy choice for Cloud. Then again, fools in love might not always do what's best for them.

I simply can't stand it when people say that Tifa is emotionally unstable while Aeris isn’t. How is Aeris stable at all? She immediately attaches herself to the first guy that reminds her of Zack, then asks this stranger out on a date when she doesn't even know him. Then takes him home to meet her mom and then doesn't let him leave without her, then follows him even though he tries to ditch her a few times. And what do you say about a 22 year old woman that has a job, still living with her mother? Aeris doesn’t sound stable at all. It’s Aeris that’s always literality clinging to Cloud while Tifa stands on the side and watches. If anything, Aeris sounds like a despite nut case. There is little to nothing about Aeris that says "independent" or "emotionally stable."

Now for Tifa… Tifa’s mom died when she was 14 and then her dad was murdered by Sephiroth at age 16. She was taken in by a martial artiest who taught her to fight and defend herself. Then at some point even that guy dies. Tifa was by herself, without the love and support of family or friends, for a long time. It was Tifa who meet Barret and decided to create Avalanche. It was Tifa that opened up the 7th Heaven bar and made a hid away for Avalanche. It was Tifa that worked her a** off to support everyone in Avalanche. It was Tifa that kept everyone including Cloud together. It was Tifa that was willing step back and let Aeris develop a relationship with Cloud even though she had been in love with him since she was a kid. It was Tifa that helped Cloud regain his own memories back. Now how can an emotionally unstable person manage to do all of that practically by herself? The fact stands that if Tifa were truly emotional unstable she would have had a nerves breakdown a long time ago. Just because she wants the love and emotional support of the one person she loves most in the world, doesn’t mean she’s unstable, and to be completely honest, I’m sick of hearing it because it’s a load of BS.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:02 pm


Holy hell.

I have not said that Tifa isn't strong by herself; she has to be, how else would she have been able to survive all those years? I'm saying, when you throw Cloud into the picture, she's a wreck. She has been so alone, unable to emotionally depend on someone, that, I feel, once she had someone to hold on to, she kind of over-did it on the emotional needy-ness. Which is understable considering her circumstances. Poor girl, she suffered a lot.

And, I'm sorry, since when was it "emotionally unstable" for a woman to stay with her mom and work as a flower girl to sustain their livelihood? Elmyra (Elvyra? don't remember) must have given so much to Aeris, but in your opinion, to pay it back is a sign that Aeris is looney tunes. We don't even know if Elmyra works! Yeah, poverty is the reward for years of Cetra rearing! That's the sane thing to do! Hell, a lot of people take their parents in when they become elderly. YES. We're all crazy chocobos here!! I KNEW IT.
Ah, yes, I knew someone was going to slam me about the Zack thing. I don't want to make this any more longer than I have to, but, if someone who was a lot like your MIA ex-boyfriend, you wouldn't be the tiniest bit intrigued?

May I revisit the whole "Cloud were here, everything would be okay?" Yes, Cloud left Tifa (and the group), and Tifa is depressed. In contrast, towards the end of the first disc, Cloud beats the crap out of Aeris. Needless to say, if someone you loved started beating on you, you'd be traumatized. Aeris, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't turn into Cream of Cetra. She visits him in his dream and I paraphrase, says, "Don't worry, buddy. It's not your fault." She's not all CLOUD HIT ME, CLOUD HATES ME, CLOUD THIS CLOUD THAT.

And since when did Tifa state that she was in love with Cloud when they were younger? As far as I can remember, she was aware of his existence, but not IN LOVE with him. Who knows? Evidently you do, Tifa Whisperer.

Anyway, we can argue this forever, say whatever you want to say, I have nothing further to say to you. You are notorious for twisting things waaaay out of context. Before you jump on me saying, "SINCE WHEN?!?!?!" I'm sure there are others who feel the same.

Really, you just hate Aeris, am I right?
CLOUD x JESSIE FTW!!!
*rolls out*

Azure Phoenix

Dapper Conversationalist


Dragonia

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:47 pm


crazy chocobos, lol.

butyeah, i just wanted ta point out that Tifa had a difficult life,
but Aeris' was no cakewalk, either.

i mean, Shin-Ra an' that b*****d Hojo
raided her house when she was just a baby.
they killed her dad,
and took her and her mom to Midgar.
we all know Hojo ain't da most sensitive of scientists.
so god knows what he coulda done to 'em.
after all, Ifalna dies right after escapin'!
and Aeris was like, what? seven?

seven years of bein' treated like a lab experiment
musta affected her greatly.
not ta mention that her mother DIES
right in front of her at the train station.
it musta been scary, havin' Hojo come into your cell
sayin' he just wants ta "talk" to yer mom.
he takes her away,
an' she comes back all comatose.

meanwhile, at da same time...
Tifa's havin' fun in Nibelheim.
until her mom dies, at least.
an' so on.

oh, oh. let's not forget da Turks on her a**.
sure, they won't hurt her ta get her.
but that doesn't mean that they won't hurt her after.
they tried ta breed her with Nanaki, LOL.
if Nanaki wasn't an intelligent bein'
she woulda been ripped ta shreds.

but despite it all Aeris is still pretty damn optimistic.

i think i'm off-topic here,
but i already stated at some point that i don't like zackxtifa. xD
partly because of da lack of PROOFZ
but mostly it's 'cause I'm all
ARGHARGHZACKSMINEYOUCAN'THAVEHIM.
i'm on topic again!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:53 pm


Azure Phoenix
Holy hell.

I have not said that Tifa isn't strong by herself; she has to be, how else would she have been able to survive all those years? I'm saying, when you throw Cloud into the picture, she's a wreck. She has been so alone, unable to emotionally depend on someone, that, I feel, once she had someone to hold on to, she kind of over-did it on the emotional needy-ness. Which is understable considering her circumstances. Poor girl, she suffered a lot.


How did Tifa "overdo" it on the "needy-ness"? Just because she wants Cloud to be there for her when she's in a bind that suddenly makes her clinging? I guess that would make Aeris even worst since she was constantly bring up that stupid body guard promise and hanging on his arm (IE at the Golden Saucer).

Azure Phoenix
And, I'm sorry, since when was it "emotionally unstable" for a woman to stay with her mom and work as a flower girl to sustain their livelihood? Elmyra (Elvyra? don't remember) must have given so much to Aeris, but in your opinion, to pay it back is a sign that Aeris is looney tunes. We don't even know if Elmyra works! Yeah, poverty is the reward for years of Cetra rearing! That's the sane thing to do! Hell, a lot of people take their parents in when they become elderly. YES. We're all crazy chocobos here!! I KNEW IT.


Paying Elmyra back!!? How so? By being to immature to get a real job and enough money to live on her own. By acting like she half her age and still relying on her mother. Yeah, perhaps it's not really like that but that's the way I see it. Oh and I guess you just forgot about Aeris asking some strange guy on a date, having him meet her mother, making him sleep over, and then following him around. Yeah that's a real stable person.

Azure Phoenix
Ah, yes, I knew someone was going to slam me about the Zack thing. I don't want to make this any more longer than I have to, but, if someone who was a lot like your MIA ex-boyfriend, you wouldn't be the tiniest bit intrigued?


That would be true if Zack were Aeris's EX but they were never Ex's. To be an ex they would have had to break up with each other, which they never did. Also, its pretty damn clear from the Madien and CC that she pretty much knew he was dead. Aeris has no ill will toward Zack, so why not go out with the guy that looks and acts like you're maybe dead boyfriend.

Azure Phoenix
May I revisit the whole "Cloud were here, everything would be okay?" Yes, Cloud left Tifa (and the group), and Tifa is depressed. In contrast, towards the end of the first disc, Cloud beats the crap out of Aeris. Needless to say, if someone you loved started beating on you, you'd be traumatized. Aeris, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't turn into Cream of Cetra. She visits him in his dream and I paraphrase, says, "Don't worry, buddy. It's not your fault." She's not all CLOUD HIT ME, CLOUD HATES ME, CLOUD THIS CLOUD THAT.


When the hell did Cloud "beat the s**t" out of Aeris? The only time he did anything was when they were at the City of the Ancients but even then he held his sword back. So Cloud beating the s**t out of Aeris!!?? WTF!

Azure Phoenix
And since when did Tifa state that she was in love with Cloud when they were younger? As far as I can remember, she was aware of his existence, but not IN LOVE with him. Who knows? Evidently you do, Tifa Whisperer.


When Tifa asked Zack about Cloud, she was about 16. That is still a miner, hence she is a child. Also, if Tifa wasn't in love with Cloud at that point then why ask Zack about him? If she didn't have feelings for him then she wouldn't have said anything.

Azure Phoenix
Anyway, we can argue this forever, say whatever you want to say, I have nothing further to say to you. You are notorious for twisting things waaaay out of context. Before you jump on me saying, "SINCE WHEN?!?!?!" I'm sure there are others who feel the same.


Oh yeah using actual proof from the creators at SE and character dialog is always twisting the truth.

Azure Phoenix
Really, you just hate Aeris, am I right?


Yeah I hate Aeris for factual and legitimit reasons. Not for stupid crap like "She wears pink!" or "She has ugly hair!"

Azure Phoenix
CLOUD x JESSIE FTW!!!
*rolls out*


Yeah there a fan paring. What the hell does that have to do with anything!?

RanmaxHikaru

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RanmaxHikaru

Distinct Member

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:59 pm


Dragonia
crazy chocobos, lol.

butyeah, i just wanted ta point out that Tifa had a difficult life,
but Aeris' was no cakewalk, either.

i mean, Shin-Ra an' that b*****d Hojo
raided her house when she was just a baby.
they killed her dad,
and took her and her mom to Midgar.
we all know Hojo ain't da most sensitive of scientists.
so god knows what he coulda done to 'em.
after all, Ifalna dies right after escapin'!
and Aeris was like, what? seven?

seven years of bein' treated like a lab experiment
musta affected her greatly.
not ta mention that her mother DIES
right in front of her at the train station.
it musta been scary, havin' Hojo come into your cell
sayin' he just wants ta "talk" to yer mom.
he takes her away,
an' she comes back all comatose.

meanwhile, at da same time...
Tifa's havin' fun in Nibelheim.
until her mom dies, at least.
an' so on.

oh, oh. let's not forget da Turks on her a**.
sure, they won't hurt her ta get her.
but that doesn't mean that they won't hurt her after.
they tried ta breed her with Nanaki, LOL.
if Nanaki wasn't an intelligent bein'
she woulda been ripped ta shreds.

but despite it all Aeris is still pretty damn optimistic.

i think i'm off-topic here,
but i already stated at some point that i don't like zackxtifa. xD
partly because of da lack of PROOFZ
but mostly it's 'cause I'm all
ARGHARGHZACKSMINEYOUCAN'THAVEHIM.
i'm on topic again!


Yeah I remember that Aeris had a pretty bad life and she is very optimistic. It's not her optimism that says "weird" to me, It's her constant bad decision making, especially when the right decision is more then obvious.
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