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You see the problem with all of your arguments is that you don't understand love and relationships. To you life is all about gain for you. You can't understand actually wanting to give something without anything in return. I'm working two jobs every day of the week to support us while he goes to school. Does it sounds like I'm trying to get his money? For the fact that I'm working so much he does do a lot of the chores but I help as well. We have sex because we both enjoy it. Not for manipulation or any other reason. I don't think this is something you can understand.

As of now I proclaim South Park the most cynical cartoon on current issues in the world.

It's analogy time boys and girls.

Suppose there was a shoe-salesman, and he really liked selling shoes. It was his life's passion, and he really loved to fit people and recommend the best looking shoes for them. He loved the smell of rubber soles, and he admired the exquisite craftsmenship of the footwear makers. He thought the contours and curves of the inside of a shoe were something to behold. He loved the smooth feel, and he felt that he could hear the shine of some of the finer black shoes. He would love nothing more than to help people get shoes for the rest of his life.

But he still would charge his customers full price for every pair he sold. He had commoditized his passion.

Now you say that you love sex, and it's only a physical, but the moment you said that you only want "relationship sex," you commoditized it right there. The fact is in your life, you've tied sex to relationships.




I've already gratuitously stated that your life is yours. And I suppose the right to be in denial about your own machinations is too.

The fact that you say you won't change your opinions seems arrogant and shows denial. You've offered no counterpoints to my rebutals, but rather restated yourself or taken the discourse in completely other directions.


With this one phrase you immediately disregard any possibility of casual sex. With a few strokes of the keyboard, you immediately discriminate against a vast population. It must offer great insight into your psychology, or you're exagerating for effect (not likely).

It very definately commoditizes it. It's like saying "I'll sell you these shoes and I love selling shoes, but give me $80."

The problem with you statements is that you also take the discourse in a different direction then my statements and you offer little if any rebuttals to my statements. You also seem to be in denial about your own machinations and are unable to be open minded enough to see that your life style, while it works for you, is not necessarily correct by anyone else's terms.

I disregard the possibility of casual sex and the vast population because it doesn't interest me. That's my choice. If I wanted those things then this wouldn't be my view point. But it is an I see no loss in disregarding those things as they would not bring me any enjoyment.

Your analogy seems so faulty to me. If the shoe salesman could live a happy life by giving the shoes away he probably would. But if he did that he would lose his home, his business and all his worldly possessions and end up living in a box. Obviously this would not be a happy life. He only charges for the shoes to maintain the life he loves.

Sex may make my life happier but a lack of it wouldn't make me any sadder. I value the closeness that it brings to my fiance and I. Causal sex would not bring me that outcome which is why it has no value to me.

So since you seem to need to berate me in an attempt to provoke me into an irrational back lash I assume that your arguments are running dry.

You and I put different value in sex. That is easy for anyone to see. You seem to see only the physical pleasure that it may provide for you and not the fulfillment that the emotional connection can give.

If you put no value in emotional connection then of course this view point makes sense and I am not narrow minded enough to not be able to understand this. But I do know that the majority of people who travel through life in this fashion are unhappy and alone. You may deny your emotions if it suits you but you are human and will never be able to rid yourself of them completely.

rolleyes Aww poor little Sipid isn't getting any attention. And yes the stupidity and gullibility is astounding as is you ability to flagrantly violate the TOS with little or no repercussion.

Sure thing!

It is somewhat of an anomaly that Sipid is "allowed" to troll around. However, he has been banned numerous times by the mods. So, it's not really that he's being "allowed" to troll, he just hasn't been banned yet (again).