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 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:45 am
Mind you i treat them as a walking meat shield
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:49 am
Dark-Krazy Mind you i treat them as a walking meat shield But the guardians are such a good unit (being an Ulthwé player as I am, I know this stuff). They can let down a rain ochshurikens on troops, not even a mighty 10 man squad of marines survive long enough against a 20 man guardian squad. Seriously 40 shots at BS 3(4 if you are playnig Ulthwé) are not bad. The only thing that are a weakness ís the range, but the new rules gives you the opurtunity to fire 40 shots and then assault and still get +1 attack, giving you 20 more attacks (weaker though). A 10 man Space Marine Squad can fire 20 shots and then not assault or assault with 20 attacks. So they got 20 attacks, and we got 60!!! Thats good odds to kick almost everything!
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:33 am
Alpha_Weapon Yahiko_Meoshine What I don't get is why Eldar have guardians...if they are so few in numbers why do they have a force of true fodder that can fire a gun? It just doesn't make sense to me. The Guardians are actually the ordinary Eldar on the craftworld. They do not trian for war as the Aspect Warriors, but just live thier life. In time of war these eldar are employed as the guardians, this because of the few troops eldar can muster. They are practically worse trained than an imperial guard, but they must fight for thier craftworld. I understand that. I'm not that stupid. But they should be concentrated on making MORE Eldar that follow the path of the warrior. Not to go get themselves killed.
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:34 am
One statement. 4+ save...Mass Dire Avengers are better. Unless you have Black Guardians of course.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:20 am
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:40 pm
No if they don't wear their soul stone when they are killed they go straight to Slaneesh.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:10 pm
Yahiko_Meoshine Alpha_Weapon Yahiko_Meoshine What I don't get is why Eldar have guardians...if they are so few in numbers why do they have a force of true fodder that can fire a gun? It just doesn't make sense to me. The Guardians are actually the ordinary Eldar on the craftworld. They do not trian for war as the Aspect Warriors, but just live thier life. In time of war these eldar are employed as the guardians, this because of the few troops eldar can muster. They are practically worse trained than an imperial guard, but they must fight for thier craftworld. I understand that. I'm not that stupid. But they should be concentrated on making MORE Eldar that follow the path of the warrior. Not to go get themselves killed. You underate the value of cannon fodder.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:48 pm
Yes but the Eldar cannot afford their population TO be used as fodder. You overrate the amount of Eldar that are left.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:53 pm
Yahiko_Meoshine Yes but the Eldar cannot afford their population TO be used as fodder. You overrate the amount of Eldar that are left. From a strictly Imperial point of view any Eldar is to many at all. Besides tactically #'s win battles. Every army has some type of cannon fodder, or armor. Regretably eldar are to scrawny for all of them to wear armor.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:45 pm
Lord Sivart Yahiko_Meoshine Yes but the Eldar cannot afford their population TO be used as fodder. You overrate the amount of Eldar that are left. From a strictly Imperial point of view any Eldar is to many at all. Besides tactically #'s win battles. Every army has some type of cannon fodder, or armor. Regretably eldar are to scrawny for all of them to wear armor. Space marines are proof that numbers are not what matters in battle.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:48 pm
DarkElf27 Lord Sivart Yahiko_Meoshine Yes but the Eldar cannot afford their population TO be used as fodder. You overrate the amount of Eldar that are left. From a strictly Imperial point of view any Eldar is to many at all. Besides tactically #'s win battles. Every army has some type of cannon fodder, or armor. Regretably eldar are to scrawny for all of them to wear armor. Space marines are proof that numbers are not what matters in battle. That's why they where armor.
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:40 am
Yar but a guardian with a 5+ Cover save and re-roll it is kewl
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:08 pm
Dark-Krazy Yar but a guardian with a 5+ Cover save and re-roll it is kewl True.
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:12 pm
Yeah co that makes then both an excelleny fire soak and also a good one for the ol' bait and switch.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:36 pm
Any more news on the new Eldar Codex?
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