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WayfarerStrife

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:13 am


DarklingGlory
All I can say is the law in singapore must be really harsh.
The main problem with method a) is the fact that it will only work if they weren't going to attack you anyway. It is very rare that you would be able to change someones mind on something like that by being calm and reasonable, quite the opposite infact. I can honestly tell you that to the type of person that goes out looking for trouble, someone standing there being calm and reasonable is like a red flag to a bull, they see it as weakness and act accordingly. I dont care how good you are art martial arts, it is extremely hard to stop someone hitting you from close range when they have the initiative. Try it with a friend sometime, here's the scenario, have a training partner stand close to you, holding your shoulder/shirtfront with one hand the other drawn back by their side. Now just engage in conversation for a few minutes. So you're standing there, "how are you?" "weathers nice today" "Can I have sex with your sister?" BANG they try and hit you as hard as they can. Done properly its really hard to stop.
What you have to remember with method c) is you only do it when someone has come up to you and is being obviously threatening towards you. By pushing them and telling them to leave you alone you are issueing a verbal and physical warning. Any witnesses will clearly remember that you did that. There is the chance that you might spend the night in the cells but it'd never stand up in court. You feared for your safety, you issued them a warning but they still attacked you, how more reasonable could you have been? The answer, to have beeen all calm and and pacifistic and let them beat you up


Ha ... what you say is quite logic, maybe I should practice that attack initating method you mention ... (Although it isn't really common to see someone to put his hand on another person's shoulder here ... unless he is a close friend or buddy ... so I don't really have any experience in this kind of range except some quater fighting techniques ... )

Anyway, the law is Singapore isn't that harsh ... ( except the fact the government used to ban the sale of chewing gum here ... sweatdrop )

But my theory for this comes from the fact that when someone is using harsh language on you and you pushed him away ... for instance, in a primary or secondary school here, you will still get punished by a teacher who walks pass and sees it ... the same can be said for witness who have seen you pushed somebody away when he just said a few words ... (but when you can see a tint of violence or rage in his eyes ..., it is best to be step back and be on guard for a sudden attack. sweatdrop )

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(and when you go to court, he or she would say you attacked first with that push ... )


Ha ... yup, when witnesses who have seen you act first ... it is hard to get out of it in any court ... (not just here ... sweatdrop )
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:29 am


The hand on the shoulder thing is to more accurately simulate a street situation. I've had it happen to me and I've seen it happen, your typical street thug will try and grab you and thump you. And that is why you have to act pre-emtively (sp?), because unless you are very very good at close up work you will get owned

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(and when you go to court, he or she would say you attacked first with that push ... )

And thats why you loudly say "Leave me alone!" You'd be suprised, unless they are far away people tend remember what you say more than what you do, I guarantee in that situation more people would remember that they were being verbally agressive and that you told them to leave you alone than you pushing them. There's also the fact that at the end of the day a push cannot be classed as assault.

DarklingGlory
Crew


Delmar_Denban
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:44 am


Ihabia
Heres a story. One night a few years ago, a friend of my older brother, who lived behind my house and across the street got in an argument with some guy over something stupid. Later that night, like 1 am, the guy and a friend showed up at his house, busted in, and started attacking the guy, ben, and someone else who was there, clayton, i think. They were both asleep when they started getting attacked. Had no chance. They were beat really bad. Ben managed to run out, and ended up hiding in my porch, with blood all over the place, while clayton didn't get away. His face was so swollen that he couldn't see at all. I don't know if they ever found the guy who did it, I don't remember who it was either. In any case, the point is, don't think that the fight is over once you leave the area. I'm sure someone has already said this, but its quite likely that you can get a crew of assholes at your door in the middle of the night, looking for a piece. You guys all know that though, I'm sure. Just thought I'd tell a story. Must. Stop. Talking.
A classic case of 'House Visit comeback'.

If you think that you're due for a visit pack a weapon in every room and make it blantantly known that you're prepared to do house visits yourself, people don't like it when you get personal back.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:47 am


DarklingGlory
"Can I have sex with your sister?"



Classic, I'm going to use that next time I line somebody up.

Delmar_Denban
Vice Captain


Reim

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:06 pm


Delmar_Denban
DarklingGlory
"Can I have sex with your sister?"



Classic, I'm going to use that next time I line somebody up.
Maybe they'll get afraid and say yes. =P
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:17 pm


What if they have a really fugly sister... And she's there with them? Then what?

Mirko_Filipovic


Ihabia

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:34 pm


Mirko_Filipovic
What if they have a really fugly sister... And she's there with them? Then what?


Well, in that case you would be a gentleman, and ask the sister if you have sex with her. She'd probably say yes, depending on the fugliness factor....
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:01 pm


Dude. Then you'd hope NONE of your friends ever found out. lol.

Mirko_Filipovic


Ihabia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:25 pm


Or you could at least hope they didn't know who it was, and then pretend it was in fact a really hot chick.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:22 am


That was the tamed down version aswell, anything that'll shock them briefly. So if they have a really ugly sister and she's there you ask them why they like having sex with their sister when she's so butt ugly...

DarklingGlory
Crew


WayfarerStrife

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:36 pm


Reim
Delmar_Denban
DarklingGlory
"Can I have sex with your sister?"



Classic, I'm going to use that next time I line somebody up.
Maybe they'll get afraid and say yes. =P


Ha ... what if they don't have a sister ? Ha ... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:03 pm


WayfarerStrife
Reim
Delmar_Denban
DarklingGlory
"Can I have sex with your sister?"



Classic, I'm going to use that next time I line somebody up.
Maybe they'll get afraid and say yes. =P


Ha ... what if they don't have a sister ? Ha ... sweatdrop


What if instead you say brother? eek ?

Delmar_Denban
Vice Captain


Ihabia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:37 pm


Delmar_Denban
WayfarerStrife
Reim
Delmar_Denban
DarklingGlory
"Can I have sex with your sister?"



Classic, I'm going to use that next time I line somebody up.
Maybe they'll get afraid and say yes. =P


Ha ... what if they don't have a sister ? Ha ... sweatdrop


What if instead you say brother? eek ?


eek That would definately throw them off guard. Give you an opening for a strike. Probably would be even better than the sister tactic. blaugh ha ha
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:11 am


Little question

Attacker comes at you, do you A: Take him down B: Begin to strike

Of course ruling out that you're about 3 blocks down already. But I was wondering on what everyone's perference was.

Reim


Delmar_Denban
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:51 am


Reim
Little question

Attacker comes at you, do you A: Take him down B: Begin to strike

Of course ruling out that you're about 3 blocks down already. But I was wondering on what everyone's perference was.
I'd use a strike. I wouldn't go down to the grond unless I knew he was a better striker or if I ended up on the floor through no choice of my own.

The reason being is that you don't know who is going to join in once you're on the floor.
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