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Oh ye of little faith. "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed" (John 20:29).



Well, in my defense, you did make a typo. It's like drawing a bull's eye on your shirt and begging me to pelt you.

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No, I thought the signature was cute. It was what you said on the other thread that was hurtful, no matter what it's intentions.

Well, I guess you need to be reminded that this is text, and thus your inflections and tone are missing. Hence, it is nearly impossible for a normal human being to understand the difference between your satire, and a general beratement. Though, there was no mistaking the insult in *that* last post that I'm responding to now...Not astute enough indeed. How rude.

EDIT: Can't find the thread you were referring to.

Yeah, that's not true. Most people can't tell by my inflections offline either. I can adopt a very serious face. The fact remains, however, that my inflections, facial features, body language, body piercings, and hair color are all irrelevant to the fact that it is ridiculous for a gay person on the Gay Guild to call another person gay and mean it offensively. Even offline, people would be required to discern that a statement is wholly ridiculous, and realize that I really mean the opposite.

And seriously, I don't really understand your offense. Aren't you gay? Are you straight? Are you something else entirely? What is so offensive about being called something you are? And if you're not that thing, what's so offensive about being called something you're not? It's obviously untrue, so there's no point in becoming offended just because someone is ignorant.



Okay, now you're just looking for ways to be insulted. (see below for more info on "astute")

You can't find the thread, so I don't really care. I was going to offer you two of the items on your wishlist. I think I'll offer them to someone a little less hostile than you.

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Offensive Words that May be Misconstrued by Matiko-san

The following list is in place so that Matiko-san may avoid being offended by words that either do not refer to him, are satirical in nature, refer only to my opinions and not to reality, or are too cute and may be construed as criticisms of homosexuality, Pokémon, and/or Chia pets.

1) not true: Not the case. Incorrect. This statement refers purely to the viability of the statement to which it refers. It in no way refers to the person who made the statement. While different opinions can be valid to an extent, an opinion about a person and their use of diction can be invalidated by that person if evidence is presented that denies the claim made.

2) serious face: A serious countenance. This does not mean that JoVo always has a serious face, nor does it mean that Matiko never does. It simply means that JoVo adopts a serious face while performing a satirical statement or dissertation, so that the only means of realizing his meaning is by listening to him.

3) irrelevant: Not affective. Not important. Meaningless. This term refers to the fact that, due to JoVo's serious face, no observation of body language will be able to discern whether or not he is joking. Such observation is futile, and one must, instead, focus on interpreting his words. This is something many people here are very good at. It is why there are not many who are insulted by JoVo's "rudeness."

4) ridiculous: Foolish. Silly. This term refers to the original comment that JoVo made, which he continues to believe was too foolish to be understood as truth. Then again, JoVo is aware of the extent to which people misunderstood Nietzsche's humor, and he is proud to be among such misunderstood men.

5) ignorant: Lack of knowledge. This term may be either broad, describing a person who lacks knowledge in all areas, or specific, describing a person who lacks knowledge in a certain field. In this case, this term is used specifically to describe people who lack knowledge of Matiko. JoVo is ignorant in this respect. JoVo assumed, in his ignorance, that Matiko was gay, since he was in the Gay Guild. While straight people are allowed into the Gay Guild, JoVo has not yet seen any. If Matiko is not gay, he could tell JoVo, and JoVo would apologize for calling Matiko something that he was not.

6) hostile: Antagonistic. Feeling or showing ill-will toward another. Hostile refers to JoVo's current perception of Matiko as someone who is easily insulted and likely to start confrontations where none were after feeling so insulted. As a result, JoVo has formulated this definitions section, so as to ease Matiko's antagonism of JoVo, who says a lot of things that may or may not be construed as offensive, depending on the ability of the person to catch subtilty.

And an oldie but a goody:

7) astute: Having or showing shrewdness and discernment. Keen. Eagle-eyed. Discriminating. Cunning. Sagacious. It is JoVo's contention that Matiko, since he did not catch JoVo's original commentary's ridiculousness, is not astute. It is not an insult anymore than Matiko calling JoVo "rude" is an insult. JoVo is not insulted by Matiko calling him rude. Matiko holds an opinion of JoVo that is negative, and JoVo is not offended because JoVo knows that the opinion held is based on perceived wrongs that JoVo feels would not have been perceived in such a way had Matiko been astute. Astute is not a term JoVo would attribute to Matiko.

::raises an eyebrow:: uh-huh...?

::sighs shakeing her head:: you havent changed.

Assumptions are sucky.

You do see the link, don't you? It's not obvious, so I just wanted to make sure. It's this astute thing.



I'm still offering. You just have to get to that thread and answer my question.



So we're both hostile. That's not something I'm really debating.



I'm calm as a june bug. I wish you didn't get so upset, though. It makes me sad. sad



Did you read my post? I tried very hard to clear it up. I even defined the words for you as I used them.

Quite frankly, I don't see the point you're making. Maybe I'm not mature. I never claimed I was. Hell, you'll find I don't make many claims about myself. I let others do that for me.

So, you tell me what I am. I'll believe you.



LOL. If you knew me at all, you, too, would realize the ridiculousness of that statement.

Now see, that wasn't so hard was it? That was actually pretty helpful of you linking the thread in question. I appreciate that whole-heartedly.

After reading the thread, what offended me was the fact that my idea was so quickly brushed aside. It wasn't the fact you called it gay at all. I think that's why Vague whispered in your ear lol.

And secondly, I concur with your suggestion. If everyone else wants me to make a Shop/Quest thread here, I will do so. It will...benefit the guild greatly.

To JoVo: Now that that is cleared up, I do extend any apologies I owe you for coming off a bit harshly. I should have clarified myself immediately when I posted that remark on the Project Thread. I do hope you forgive this newbie's eagerness.

Children, children.
BEHAVE



He's not a teen, and though he can be childish, you have been equally so. And you are old enough to know better.


'twas a joke. There was no need for your defensive, self-righteous attitude in the first place. Also... slapping JoVo is... really not recommended sweatdrop


beat me to it. Just as well, I'd have been too lazy to provide a link.

What's a June Bug?


Now that's a load. You've never been very good at listening to people you don't know tell you about yourself.


But... but... that's what I was trying to say in the FIRST place! gonk I SAID it was just a joke. He wasn't REALLY dismissing the idea at all!