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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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 Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:24 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 Thank you 3nodding And I don't think I understand you, Zonko; what are you going to do with my opinion? xd the word "butcher" comes to mind... on a more serious note, what is your definition of "love?"
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:25 pm
ZonkotheSane i think our concepts of "love" are a bit different sweatdrop anyway, simply put, marriage is the point in one's life where one's concerns for another outweighs one's own. also, I have to disagree with that; I would easily put my family's life before my own- my concern for them outweighs the concern for myself. It's not necessarily a marriage thing.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:31 pm
darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane i think our concepts of "love" are a bit different sweatdrop anyway, simply put, marriage is the point in one's life where one's concerns for another outweighs one's own. also, I have to disagree with that; I would easily put my family's life before my own- my concern for them outweighs the concern for myself. It's not necessarily a marriage thing. marriage is a step up, though
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:42 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane i think our concepts of "love" are a bit different sweatdrop anyway, simply put, marriage is the point in one's life where one's concerns for another outweighs one's own. also, I have to disagree with that; I would easily put my family's life before my own- my concern for them outweighs the concern for myself. It's not necessarily a marriage thing. marriage is a step up, though I wouldn't say it is a step up- it's more of a completely separate sort of thing. The love for your family isn't quite the same as love for a husband/wife. or there would be a lot of incest... xd (by the way, I guess I should post this in this thread as well- I just think incest is plain nasty stressed )
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:11 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane i think our concepts of "love" are a bit different sweatdrop anyway, simply put, marriage is the point in one's life where one's concerns for another outweighs one's own. also, I have to disagree with that; I would easily put my family's life before my own- my concern for them outweighs the concern for myself. It's not necessarily a marriage thing. marriage is a step up, though I agree with Zonko here. You're born into a family, and you can't change them. You're sort of obligated to honor and love them. (though that may not always be the case.) You choose whom you're going to marry. And just because you love someone enough to marry them, it isn't an assured thing. People change, dynamics in relationships change, etc.
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:13 pm
DarkHalcyon ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 ZonkotheSane i think our concepts of "love" are a bit different sweatdrop anyway, simply put, marriage is the point in one's life where one's concerns for another outweighs one's own. also, I have to disagree with that; I would easily put my family's life before my own- my concern for them outweighs the concern for myself. It's not necessarily a marriage thing. marriage is a step up, though I agree with Zonko here. You're born into a family, and you can't change them. You're sort of obligated to honor and love them. (though that may not always be the case.) You choose whom you're going to marry. And just because you love someone enough to marry them, it isn't an assured thing. People change, dynamics in relationships change, etc. true, but I wouldn't necessarily compare the two together. See my post above for a less laconic explanation xp
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:16 pm
YvetteEmilieDupont Proudly_Jewish My current bf is a goy and I feel guilty as hell (I've been thinking of ending things for a while now though). I would never marry a goy though. Ever, ever, ever. I know that tecnically speaking it doesn't matter since I'm female and my children will still be Jewish no matter what, but still... if you feel like it has no chance to ever work then yes end it, don't say oh i'm dumping you because you're goy either because no offence thats really rude and mean. just say "hey you know we've been falling apart latly and i just think it's the best for you and me if we stop dating" don't do the lets be friends because it never works, but that doesn't mean you can't say hi to them or wave in the hallway when you see eachother randomly. if he asks if it's because of his relgion say something along the lines of relgion is very important to me so yes it was one of the barriers we have that is keeping us from getting really close. okie dokie ^.^ and i know how stressful stuff like this can be, don't put your self through all that guilt and stress you are far better than that. so if you want to end it then end it don't wait around for something to happen. I've done it surprised I basically said what you said to, that lately I was feeling apart and all that sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:17 pm
aww I'm sorry sad
Feel better! 3nodding
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:53 am
darkphoenix1247 aww I'm sorry sad Feel better! 3nodding I agree 3nodding . If you need any support you know we're here for you ^^!
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:14 am
Proudly_Jewish YvetteEmilieDupont Proudly_Jewish My current bf is a goy and I feel guilty as hell (I've been thinking of ending things for a while now though). I would never marry a goy though. Ever, ever, ever. I know that tecnically speaking it doesn't matter since I'm female and my children will still be Jewish no matter what, but still... if you feel like it has no chance to ever work then yes end it, don't say oh i'm dumping you because you're goy either because no offence thats really rude and mean. just say "hey you know we've been falling apart latly and i just think it's the best for you and me if we stop dating" don't do the lets be friends because it never works, but that doesn't mean you can't say hi to them or wave in the hallway when you see eachother randomly. if he asks if it's because of his relgion say something along the lines of relgion is very important to me so yes it was one of the barriers we have that is keeping us from getting really close. okie dokie ^.^ and i know how stressful stuff like this can be, don't put your self through all that guilt and stress you are far better than that. so if you want to end it then end it don't wait around for something to happen. I've done it surprised I basically said what you said to, that lately I was feeling apart and all that sweatdrop I dunno, Chaya. You can be friends with some ex's afterwards. The key is to give it time. I'm on pretty good terms with a few of them... well, the last one, Brian.. He goes to the same college as my bestest friend, and they started hanging out, which made hiim stop hating me and uhh.... he bought the vodka and bacardi we used for jello shots. That makes him okay in my book >.>
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:14 am
Proudly_Jewish YvetteEmilieDupont Proudly_Jewish My current bf is a goy and I feel guilty as hell (I've been thinking of ending things for a while now though). I would never marry a goy though. Ever, ever, ever. I know that tecnically speaking it doesn't matter since I'm female and my children will still be Jewish no matter what, but still... if you feel like it has no chance to ever work then yes end it, don't say oh i'm dumping you because you're goy either because no offence thats really rude and mean. just say "hey you know we've been falling apart latly and i just think it's the best for you and me if we stop dating" don't do the lets be friends because it never works, but that doesn't mean you can't say hi to them or wave in the hallway when you see eachother randomly. if he asks if it's because of his relgion say something along the lines of relgion is very important to me so yes it was one of the barriers we have that is keeping us from getting really close. okie dokie ^.^ and i know how stressful stuff like this can be, don't put your self through all that guilt and stress you are far better than that. so if you want to end it then end it don't wait around for something to happen. I've done it surprised I basically said what you said to, that lately I was feeling apart and all that sweatdrop Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah helllpp meeeeeee Man its such a sad and horrible situation to be in. If you love someone who is a Goy and they love you ( and u want to marry when the times comes?) but on the other hand you do NOT want to marry a goy and besides, if you were brought up in a jewish way and he wasnt it'd be a challenge to try and live together... What do you do if you know this guy loves judiasm, but you dont want him to convert for your own sake. Because thats pointless, you dont convert for someone else XD Chaya help me please lol XD and miss PJ I dont think its that easy, to just say that you think you're falling apart because... well, what if you're not falling apart? lol, What if you're really serious and its eating you up inside that you dont know what to do? I know its bad for jews to intermix with goys, Im totally against it... no offence to anyone here please ^^" But when it happens what are you supposed to do? I dunno who made up the lets be friends solution because I dont think it ever rly works, if you have true feelings for someone you care about they never ever go away razz And its bad to deny feelings you feel, you feel devided against yourself. Oh crumb. What to do? Its hard to let go of someone really special when you've finally found them, someone who understands you and you can happy with them. And all this just for religious reasons... which are so important to me as well!! aaaaaaaaa! There's no easy answer. But I know waiting it out might just make it worse. Or better. I have no idea.
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:28 am
I'll try and help you baked bean you are posting as much as your brother ninja just make sure you stay in the jew above me thread ninja i get lonely there sometimes lol rofl
I think that yes there are goy people whom are interested in judaism, and there are people whom will toy with the idea of letting you keep the house jewish and such. those people i'm ok with
it's the pycho christians that say you have to have it my way or hte highway.
plus this is my own little ethnocentric moment
but i think that hey christinas if you marry a jew or something let the family be the minority religion, not like the molesting cathlic priests are goin miss one family. rolleyes
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:48 am
YvetteEmilieDupont not like the molesting cathlic priests are goin miss one family. rolleyes Be nice, chaya xd , it's not their fault they are that way wink .
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:04 pm
nathan_ngl YvetteEmilieDupont not like the molesting cathlic priests are goin miss one family. rolleyes Be nice, chaya xd , it's not their fault they are that way wink . hey hey i'm cathlic i'm allowed to make fun of them, plus they bring unto themselves. I mean they are the ONLY religion in the world where the priestey high rankign people can't get married or ahve kids it's stupid lol
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:18 pm
YvetteEmilieDupont nathan_ngl YvetteEmilieDupont not like the molesting cathlic priests are goin miss one family. rolleyes Be nice, chaya xd , it's not their fault they are that way wink . hey hey i'm cathlic i'm allowed to make fun of them, plus they bring unto themselves. I mean they are the ONLY religion in the world where the priestey high rankign people can't get married or ahve kids it's stupid lol True, my teacher was laughing about how people like nuns and popes refrain from having sexual relationships, but then again you see little nuns and popes running around rofl . He got quite a kick out of that line... he's starting to annoy me with it rolleyes ...
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