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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:33 pm
This is just sad, people don't know the vaule of life or don't care. They asked me whats vaulable about it if you don't want it. Mm...lets see it's too easy for life to be taken away, abortion is proof of that, and once it's gone it's gone there is no getting it back or changing your mind. I told them that but people just don't like to listen to reason also they think this  is a fetus, they said it was one aborted (haha right rolleyes ) And when I told then that this is a real-livin eight week fetus (when it becomes a fetus) ( the piture messed up, i post it later) They say it isn't and that it's a lump of cells only when clearly not. So how is that thing in a dish a fetus in away aborted or not? And what makes it not important? Edit- God, just reports Dark (now I won't say the rest) twince within afew hours for flaming and told the mods they should thrash the thread if people can't seem to learn the difference between flames and debates.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:57 pm
Ugh, WHY do they have to notify people whenever you decline friend requests. gonk Now DarkFire's going to think I have a grudge against him. I mean, I DO, but I don't want him to know about it. I thought he was alright at first but then I read through his posts and noticed he liked insulting Pro-lifers, so.
And I've seen those pictures before, too. They've shown them to me, as if we really, REALLY care what it looks like and what it's capable of.
And... the irony! They insulted us saying we did not know biology, and yet they say something has to be SENTIENT, and live up to THEIR expectations, in order to be human. gonk Even though the dictionary and my health book both say that the unborn are babies.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:18 pm
Lorysa Ugh, WHY do they have to notify people whenever you decline friend requests. gonk Now DarkFire's going to think I have a grudge against him. I mean, I DO, but I don't want him to know about it. I thought he was alright at first but then I read through his posts and noticed he liked insulting Pro-lifers, so.
And I've seen those pictures before, too. They've shown them to me, as if we really, REALLY care what it looks like and what it's capable of.
And... the irony! They insulted us saying we did not know biology, and yet they say something has to be SENTIENT, and live up to THEIR expectations, in order to be human. gonk Even though the dictionary and my health book both say that the unborn are babies. That's not what biology, they said that is according to law. Like law make a human, bio does. Law just trys to keep people civilized do that fails often. My book says the same and they asked for proof so a showed and what to know what they said " your points moot cause it's older then five or ten years". Like a fetus is going to change to something else in five year rolleyes According to them, abortion is older then five years, older then a hundred so their point is moot then.
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:13 am
Hail bretheren, for I have returned. I see that they have not learned what the true meaning of debate is still. Sad sad people, really.
Hopefully they will get the idea.
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:24 am
AH, seems we have stumbled upon the lack of care and understanding in valuing life. And the fact that they support eugenics (sp) is really weird confused , since they mostly should be wiped off the genetic record.
I'm never going to let that up whee , according to them, in their world I'm superior 3nodding .
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:57 pm
Master Kaiser AH, seems we have stumbled upon the lack of care and understanding in valuing life. And the fact that they support eugenics (sp) is really weird confused , since they mostly should be wiped off the genetic record. I'm never going to let that up whee , according to them, in their world I'm superior 3nodding . Haha same here, according to them I am mulipalating them, I didn't know I had some much power over them. Oh ever fact you say, if your pro-life then it's automactically wrong. So no, they never so I have fun messing with them hoping they starting thing for once. According to eugnetics, we should have started with them since they are bad weeds. Yah lets wipe out everyone and let the human race die out, real smart stare
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:44 pm
Master Kaiser AH, seems we have stumbled upon the lack of care and understanding in valuing life. And the fact that they support eugenics (sp) is really weird confused , since they mostly should be wiped off the genetic record. I'm never going to let that up whee , according to them, in their world I'm superior 3nodding . HA! Then that means I'm far better too. I have trouble seeing things far away with out focusing hard, that all thats wrong with me.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:23 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Master Kaiser AH, seems we have stumbled upon the lack of care and understanding in valuing life. And the fact that they support eugenics (sp) is really weird confused , since they mostly should be wiped off the genetic record. I'm never going to let that up whee , according to them, in their world I'm superior 3nodding . HA! Then that means I'm far better too. I have trouble seeing things far away with out focusing hard, that all thats wrong with me. I guess that means we're all superior. Yes, people are giving too much power for not agreeing! Maybe...I can rule the world if I lived in their wolrd ninja
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:00 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:12 pm
Yes Happy New Year! mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:28 pm
I want to smack people on that thread. they sure like to put words in your mouth.
Oh homicide is the same as murder, why do they call murders homicides then?
I'm not going to both with some people like Neth since they clearly don't read the whole thing or say things that you did not say at all.
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:14 pm
Its impossible to debate with peopel liek that. They arn't there to debate they are there to try and force their beliefes on you (gee...who are they accusing that of again?)
IN my first debate, I ended up in a thread with her. Every single on of her statment was full of arrogance and insults and every single one of her questions was loaded. AFter actualy trying to have a civilized debate with her, and only gettigninsults and arrogance in return, I ultimatly decided to ignore her.
Its a reason why I never debate any more. The vast majority of the pro-choicers on gaia are immature teenagers, or immature grownups. The few good pro-choice debaters, the ones that wont state their opinoins as fact, who wont throw sarcasm at you at every inturvul, who wont look down and you and will atempt to see things form your point of view are either gone form gaia, gone form debate, or have ultimatly become personly pro-life but politicly pro-choice
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:44 pm
interesting though. Their was a debate about the rights of underage kids/teens wanting an abortion without telling their parents. Alot of pro-choice people thing if you talk to the kids about it they will they them. But how do they know that they will? They think the only reason parents want the right to know is to "punish" their child. Maybe they just want to make sure their safe, even if their not agaist abortion, abortion is surgery and all surgery have risks of complacations. Have they ever thought of that? They think they kid would just tell them and come out of it o.k. and nothing physical or emotion will happen at all?
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:50 pm
While I think many kids should tell their parents if they have a relationship that is able to have such a confession.
I fear for the young women who are physically abused by their parents. Young girls being raped by their father, or their step father, or whomever the man of the house is who then get pregnant... and if they tell him that she got pregnant he'll beat her. If they tell him she wants an abortion but need his consent first, he'll beat her. If they tell him she went and had an abortion without his consent, he'll beat her.
Then there are the families that would literally kick their daughter out of the house and let her fend for herself without a home, without food, and without an education at an age as young as 13 or 14 if they found out she was pregnant (abortion gotten or not) for whatever reason they may have.
It happens, and it's a terribly sad thing. While getting an abortion may not be the answer to her problem (perhaps keeping the child and finding a new place to live is the answer), the problem arises when the parents are told that 1-she is pregnant and 2-she wants an abortion and thus put her, her body, her fetus/child, and her well being in danger.
While most teenagers do not face these problems, the few that do need the protection that anonimity brings, and to outlaw all teenage abortions without some sort of way for those in serious situations to access help of some sort would be an unthinkable thing to do in my opinion.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:06 pm
That sucks their are some parents out their like that, but if their parents are that bad she should probly leave or try to get help, like tell a close family member or maybe talk to a friends parents and stay with them.
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