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 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:20 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:39 pm
I'm still confused about the market it's been so long. Ally Items, when I buy the Jutsu / Item (Base costs) are the levels automatically put into the jutsu and Items? lvl 100 item. Bought 1 item slot, item pts base is automatically 90pts?
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:07 pm
Doctor Aizen I'm still confused about the market it's been so long. Ally Items, when I buy the Jutsu / Item (Base costs) are the levels automatically put into the jutsu and Items? lvl 100 item. Bought 1 item slot, item pts base is automatically 90pts? Yes, since the Items and Jutsus on Ally Items are automatically 10 levels lower than the level of the Ally
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:15 pm
DenShazo15 Yes, since the Items and Jutsus on Ally Items are automatically 10 levels lower than the level of the Ally Nvm Vash told me what to do Lulz, I'm supposed to make the item first and then go to the market to add the amount of money it takes Lulz. I was doing it the hard way.
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:59 am
First off, Let me just say the markets S U C K at explaining the cost of something.
Further more, I'm confused about the costs for upgrades.
5) Upgrades are always 15 Ryo more then the base cost.
What on earth is a base cost??????
6) When an item moves up an increment of 100 in levels their base cost is increased by 20. (Ie- If an item effect cost 50 from levels 1 to 100, it will cost 70 from levels 101 to 200)
Okay, soooo I'm going to guess Base cost + 15 + 20 + Effect price = the amount for putting something on a item?
You guys should put a format code explaining how updates work instead of putting some crappy set of definitions up....
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:02 pm
Base cost is the total cost of the item upon creation... probably... . u.;;
I'll get back to you on details in a minute, I haven't made items for a long while.
EDIT: yup pretty sure that is what the base cost is. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:11 pm
scream Wtf..... How is that even legit!?!?!?!?
1,610 base cost Plus 20 Plus the effect..... that can't be right..... gonk
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:21 pm
Doctor Aizen scream Wtf..... How is that even legit!?!?!?!? 1,610 base cost Plus 20 Plus the effect..... that can't be right..... gonk Post your full math, it will be easier to correct in the OOC that way.
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:46 pm
Doctor Aizen scream Wtf..... How is that even legit!?!?!?!? 1,610 base cost Plus 20 Plus the effect..... that can't be right..... gonk well since I didn't make the updated item shop system I'm not sure. it could alternatively be that items like allies and puppets have base cost where as standard items don't meaning the base cost plus 15 of the .... duh... base cost is the item's level I think... iunno ask sai he might know. XD;; Sorry I can't help... I'm being a weatherman right now so my focus mentally is there. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:46 pm
InuVash255 Post your full math, it will be easier to correct in the OOC that way. FYI, I'm ranting I hate coming to you guys and not knowing what the hell I'm doing. It's a time waster on my behalf when things aren't written clear enough in the forums. Quote: Name: Shinobi Team R.I.H
---Level: 130
---Style: Taijutsu
---Type: Passive
---Accuracy: 130
---Range: Touch
---Uses: 60/60
---Effect: Base sad 20pts), Uses sad 60)(30pts), Jutsu sad 5)(50pts), Items sad 3)(30pts) 5 Jutsu's For Free! 3 Items For ????? ryo. There's an (Upgrade cost = 15 ryo) And then anything over 100 is (Level Increment = 20 extra ryo) Sai told me, that anything NOT on a pre-made item is considered upgrading it. thus I'm trying to figure out the base cost of the damn upgrade, as the markets don't tell you s**t on how to do that. USE Equations not some half assed "Updates cost Base level" that tells me nor anyone else what the hell the base level is ...
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:51 am
In all fairness Aizen. I don't mind the way that the markets are laid out as they make sense to me. I think I know the answer to your problem but as I'm not a mod I still can't say for sure. What I think Base cost for an Item on an Ally Item = 510 (This is assuming it's in the Paradise Haven market since all markets are different) Now add the upgrade cost(15ryo), and also the increase in base cost due to you adding more levels to a lvl 100 item (20ryo) This would make the item's cost now 545 each, thus three would total 1,635ryo I'd like to know if this is right as I'm trying to learn this system until I have it all understood. Sorry if I'm butting into something that's none of my business.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:21 am
It depends on how this item is being made and where In Tanzaku City Market (Fire Country) It would work like this Ally Item + Ally Jutsu (x5) + Ally Item (x3) + Uses (x30) Build | 130 | 6150ryo Ally Item (Base) | 20pts | 1310ryo Ally (Jutsu)(x5) | 50pts | 380 x 5 = 1900ryo Uses (x30) | 30pts | 40 x 30 = 1200ryo Ally (Item)(x3) | 30pts | [560 + 20] x 3 = 1740ryo
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:25 am
Based on Water Country Paradise Haven prices: I'm assuming that you're using the Chuunin prize Ninja Team Ally Item. Build | 100+30 | 5960 Pre-made + 1035 ryo (What you would need to pay to upgrade this Item)Ally Item (Base) | 20pts | 1610ryo Pre-madeUses (x30) | 30pts | 40 x 30 = 1800ryo Pre-madeAlly (Jutsu)(x5) | 50pts | 510 x 5 = 2550ryo Pre-madeAlly (Item)(x3) | 30pts | [310 + 15 + 20] x 3 = 1035ryoedit: I would like to add one thing, Aizen. The other day you were commenting on how you liked the old 50ryo/pt system. As that build is right now, you would be paying over double that price to upgrade.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:49 am
Aizen, I would appreciate it if you stop acting like an immature child in the ooc every time you don't understand something. Each time you have an issue you come into here and you rant and degrade the work and effort some one else has done simply because it wasn't done in a way that caters specifically to your needs, cut it out. Make this the last time. I'm in a rush to get to class so I've skipped most of what everyone said in response and will just throw up a quick explanation: Bast Cost: There's a list in every market place for their effects, they ryo amount next to it is the base cost. Upgrading: The base cost is increased by 15. When reaching increments of 100 the base cost also increases by 20. IE- An item with a single effect that costs 40 ryo per pt and has 50 pts will cost you: 40 * 50 = 200 ryo. If you wish to upgrade this item it will cost you (40 + 15)*Amount of levels you're adding on. If the effect had 110 pts then the cost would be: (40*100) + (40+20)*10 When you start to upgrade and go above level 100, items become more confusing to deal with because their prices begin to increase and therefore must be modified. Edit: @Vash/Play/Blazing- You are correct. And I am now late crying
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:04 am
I'd like to Apologize for my behavior, Antonio you're correct; I have been acting sour the last couple of days and there's no reason for it. Thank you all for the help, I will address my responses with more maturity next time. I shouldn't have taken those type of actions towards the guild let alone individuals who wrote the markets.
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