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 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:04 am
I literally just want you to read it and let me know if you see anything off. I'm not going to say specifically what in case it's just me thinking weird or something.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:04 am
Destructive Forces My main issue is that it mainly comes across as puppetmaster-ing to say "lol but your fighter is retarded and the axe misses me entirely" rather than going "the axe lacked force and precision in its throw and thus I dodge/block it easily". It's disrespectful and unsportsmanlike. Cap has been the main one trying to describe distances, whereas Farmer is failing to fully understand positioning and performing illogical maneuvers. As for the weapon speed... well Kuro beat me to it. "I attempt to sunder a weapon at it's most mobile point, with a weapon that requires a concerted force behind it's swing, at a perpendicular angle, without stepping into the weapon's line of attack, which, by necessity of the grip, is held fairly close to the body and out to the dominant side." vs. "As you step in to perform your awkward maneuver that would basically require you to reach out and smack it with the tip of the weapon, that carries the least force behind it, standing on your tiptoes, I sweep my light farming implement specifically designed to perform light sweeping motions with practically no effort out of the way/behind your leading leg."
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:06 am
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:22 am
Sigil, in your argument you failed to acknowledge the difference between the distance in a lunge vs a normal swing, You implied that he would be holding it close to his body because of the size of the weapon, which just isn't true. He is focusing the weight efficiently by the use of his legwork, as he explained. That's also why he would be able to match speeds with a light farming implement...
...If he was fighting with a light implement. A two handed scythe is far from a light tool. It's also an awkward weapon. Do you see in the video how the guy is holding it? With his hands so far apart? That heavily reduces the maximum speed it can attain in a swing.
You also stated that he smacked it with the tip of his weapon, which he didn't do, nor would he have to. I don't think you realize that he isn't in range to attack Abe, he is in range to attack the weapon in his hand, which would be like a foot or two from his body. He has enough distance to make that. This is all kind of obvious.
Due to these factors, I suggest you stop arguing altogether.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:23 am
A scythe is made so you don't have to put speed behind it to swing for basic functions. The key function of a tool is that you let it do the work, you guide it. You put little force and swinging behind it because the well maintained blade will do the cutting. If you take a well sharpened scythe and use it with speed and power as a weapon though, you can whip it fairly well since it uses the entire core of the body to swing, but can be swung by moving the arms for quicker use.
My original point though was calling "weapon speed" into the fight is terrible since so many factors play into it that we can't really account for. Character training, years of use and practice, strength and dexterity, etc.
I just re-read the fight about four times and I see what is trying to be done. I think it is a misunderstanding on Abe's part with relation to positioning. It's me, I am the guy who was wrong. What have I become.... emo
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:27 am
Your first paragraph just coincides with what I'm saying. Your second doesn't account that it was Abe who made weapon speed important, what he is doing can only possibly work if it occurs before Chaymin's does. We're just trying to make this apparent.
It's fine though. +5 for humility.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:29 am
His post in the Help Desk is not about weapon speed, it is about how a scythe works.
Weapon speed did not come up until you all started talking about it (unless I missed it)
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:30 am
Just as a point of clarification; If there's a judge online at the moment...
In regards to dice rolls, if a roll is required to be "Higher than 30"...And you roll a 30...Wouldn't that fall under the "Meets it; Beats it" clause?
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:31 am
With Doji, we've figured out what CG is doing... although it still doesn't really make much sense in the aspect that all Abe has to do is literally just move his scythe laterally to the right like 5 inches and the claymore swing misses entirely.
Granted, he can't sweep the leg. Oh well.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:41 am
...Why is everyone so sure Robyn's gonna get skinned? >.>
Also, some of ya'll are creepy as ********.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:41 am
Zero, finished looking over your fight. I don't see anything particually illogical about what he did, although it was kind of a dumb move imo. All you have to do is rapidly accelerate into him and spear smash, then he's too distracted to summon his daggers.
And by telling you this I ensured that you can't use this advice, or else it's cheating.
smile
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:43 am
It's because she's a fox Robyn. Foxes get skinned yo.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:45 am
Slash Zinrai Just as a point of clarification; If there's a judge online at the moment... In regards to dice rolls, if a roll is required to be "Higher than 30"...And you roll a 30...Wouldn't that fall under the "Meets it; Beats it" clause? Ne'er mind! We settled dis s**t as gentlemen! pirate
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:53 am
I hope I'm not the only one having fun.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:53 am
Ventrillo Diplomacy Xerowingz I hope I'm not the only one having fun. I am spectating and I am having fun... sweatdrop
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