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I do actually appreciate the time you took to look up visual evidence that is both extensive and thorough, but you have to keep in mind that all official photos are going to naturally be as vanilla as possible, with no conversions whatsoever (except in the 'Eavy Metal and other showcase bits). Still, it really does show what you're pointing out.


Since you don't want a long argument ( stressed ), this is the crux of my disagreement: you have the bolded part completely backwards. In the strictest going-by-the-book definition of WYSIWYG, the models might be considered illegal, but I'd dare you to find a tourney judge, official or otherwise, that strict.

Conversely, in the Spirit of the Rules sense, however, the models are perfectly legal. This is also the most realistic, most appropriate, and most sportsmanlike interpretation.


Nope. One plasma pistol is available to a normal squad member.

Oh yes, it seems you're right about the Plasma Pistol. I've always assumed that was Armoury Specific, because none of the other special/heavies cross over.

I take WYSAWYG as literal when it comes to things getting confused. I may sound hypocritical at this point, but after doing x amount of Plague Swords, I may wish to model one as a Halberd, same for Power Weapons.
I just consider the Mutations Mutations, and for ease, practicality and simplicity, should be used on posessed.

On a similar level, there is no model for the Bezerker Glaive, and I doubt many know what it is. I'm make it like a glaive, others would probably make it an axe.

What else sucks is I only got 14 gold for that post.
D:

-Mykal

Well, I guess ive made my mind, Ill just make a non mutated CSM squad, and use the other mutated figures for something else...

and my question still stands, what should I use for my last two squad members?
I have:
4x bolter
1x chainsword and plasma pistol
1x chainsword and bolter pistol
1x heavy bolter
1x powerfist and bolt pistol

Or I Could take out the guys with CCW and add more bolters like you suggested, have a shooting specific squad

yeah If I find the guys im missing I will make those CC so I have two specialized squads.

No I personally would go mutation nuts, but thats me. Just make sure you can justifiably differentiate the squads and always inform your opponent before the game.

As y'all know it depends a lot on the force you're fighting, but in general I say that for every 2 full squad of shooty Marines, have 1 squad of CC Marines.

If it's against a low numbered - high armoured enemy, maybe Marines or another Chaos, I'd say 6 man CC squads with the AC having powerfist, BP, and spikey bits. 4 men with CCW and BP and one dude with a flamer. Instead of just 8-10 men with CCW/BP.

As long as you only charge standard infantry it should be good for withstanding the attacks to get the PF in there, and the spikey bits adding the extra assurance that you'll cause at least 1 successful wound

I'm just a fantastic fan of flamers, for the amount of damage they can put in for the cost. Also I feel that it stops the enemy charging up close as quick as they can 'cause they're afraid of getting caught up within the 4-8" range of the flamer (the dangerous part).

And the reasoning for just having 6 men, if you haven't guessed, is that the minus 4 men tends to equal the cost of the upgrades, or there abouts.

I personally stay away from Plasma pistols, too much of a risk.

And of course, this is all working on undevided.

Good idea Marcus. I've never considered Spikey Bits as that "Worth it" to be honest. But it does seem good.

Spikey bits are a weapon from the armoury, basiclly making Close COmbat a little bit easier. They don't have a model, but it can be easily converted from anything.
Flamers come from a Havoc sprue, so you might have to indivisually order that in.

-Mykal