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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:25 pm


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Without Brit. Lit., you wouldn't have Shakespeare and Chesterton!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:28 pm


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Shakespeare had a remarkable talent for writing wonderful stories in a way that boring and hard to follow. Except twelfth night. That play was great. And it's not the reading that kills me, it's the WRITING. I like reading. Reading is good. But I hate writing. Especially essays and such that require me to find some "hidden meaning" or some crap in Hamlet.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:32 pm


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:36 pm


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The tragedy of Macbeth is the abuse of free will, and the tragedy of Hamlet is the desire for vengeance.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:38 pm


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:39 pm


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Well, in both cases it seemed like Shakespeare was suggesting there was no free will, and no matter what the main character did they could not escape fate. And I'm more of a fan of comedies than tragedies.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:40 pm


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Actually, Shakespeare acknowledged free will and supports it. Comedies are one proof of my argument.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:41 pm


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But in both plays the main characters fight fate, only to lose in the end.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:42 pm


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They chose to do so, and paid the price. Shakespeare also acknowledges responsibility.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:44 pm


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In the beginning Hamlet tried to fight fate, and in the end he accepted it and went along with it. In the beginning Macbeth went along with fate, but then tried to go against it. In both cases fate prevailed.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:46 pm


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Hence the idea that freedom and responsibility go together in harmony, not against each other.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:48 pm


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But regardless whether the tried to comply with fate, fate always prevailed. It makes it seem like they had no choice from the beginning.

I suppose this means we won.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:49 pm


They did have a choice, and they went along with their choices, be it to embrace fate, or to go against it.

And yes, you won. I just hope no girl goes arrogant today.
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