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I think that Ethereals may see an resugence in cityfight. Because Guard with camoline is IMPOSSIBLE to dislodge with shooting. Throw your Ethereal out in front, let him die, then charge into cover and get the guard out of the building with a surprise CC charge. That, or Mass Kroot, but I'm not that big a fan of Kroot.

The Honor Guard aren't useless, but Ethereals are kinda iffy, as you can't take ONLY an Ethereal for an HQ. So he's kind of a point sink. Oh, and btw, Ethereals only let you re-roll Morale, not all leadership.

Well, for one, you're wasting the BS5 on your commander if you give him the AFP. Give it to one of his bodyguards instead. Secondly, your commander has no multitracker and three weapons. Even with a multi tracker, he's only firing two, not three per turn.

You gave him Iridium armor...and bodyguards? Granted the extra wounds from the guards are nice, but having Shield Drones with 2+ saves hanging off your commander is better.

For your other Crisis unit, consider having missile pods and twin-fusion, that way you don't have a suit hanging around that's dead weight.

For both your Crisis units, Bonding is necessary.

I'd drop EMP off your firewarriors, you have plenty of anti-tank in this list.

Other thoughts: You have ALOT of static anti-tank, and only one unit of mobile antitank. I'd bust the Shas'el and his bodyguard down to a regular Crisis unit, and stick either another Anti-tank Crisis suit or a couple of Piranhas in the list for dealing with artillery, which Broadsides are particularly bad at. Also, you're pretty light on anti-infantry power, and don't have any railguns capable of firing pie-plates, so you might have trouble with horde armies.

yeah i know its not all leadership and only moral but most other checks dont come up alot in our games, besides hes not that much of a points sink id much rather have hime there than his equal in points from a battle suit

Thanks for the constructive critism. PErsonally I have always preffered a static line of fire. As for my commander I have that way to stall the enemy so that my Broadsides and use their smart missiles to cause damage. My Firewarriors are thier to use the markerdrones to help with my other weapons. I may just make a few more changes thanks to this.

As I have said earlier I've always liked a static firepower.

Hmm, from what I see in the Codex. they are good at covering your warriors as they fall back. They can also Down Space Marines and other Heavy roops with eas. Basicly you have to choose between Giving up anti tank for ant Infiantry and pinning, or vice versa.

The main problem with Sniper Drone teams is that much like the Krootox of last edition, they compete with the far more effective choices of Broadsides and Hammerheads. Granted, they are not nearly as anemic or overpriced as Krootox were, but they still aren't as useful as the other two options.

The other problem is that they make somewhat ineffective snipers, as being Heavies, everyone gets to react to thier deployment, and being equipped with heavy weapons, they can't reposition easily.

Playstyle also heavily weighs against the drones in most counts. If they were still scoring units, then I would seriously consider fielding them, but they aren't, which means that I'm throwing away nearly a 4th of my army points (in a 1000 point game) on units that cannot take table quarters. If I liked using markerlights more, I'd field them for having nigh invulnerable networked markerlights with target locks, but I've found that markerlights do LESS for me on the whole than they did in the previous codex, so my army lists are almost entirely markerlight-free. If somone doesn't fill out thier heavies, they could take them, but the vast majority of Tau players I know have all Elite and all Heavy slots filled right after taking thier requisite HQ and 2 Troops.

Long story short, they're neat... but they're just not up to the standard of Hammerheads and Broadsides. I have two squads, but I never field them any more.

I want to know how effective the plasma rifles are? Are the anti infantry? Anti-elite? They are kind of in between and I think they are a bit overrated. sweatdrop