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Do you agree with homosexuality?
Yes, I see nothing wrong with it
28%
 28%  [ 18 ]
No, I think it's wrong
62%
 62%  [ 40 ]
I dont have an opinion
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Total Votes : 64


Littlelukee

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:31 am


In the beginning, God set the guideline for marriage. Marriage is the bonding of a man and woman, where they leave their houses and become one flesh. The precedent was set right there. If God had intended for two males or two females to marry, he would have given Adam a choice in that matter as well. Did he want a male, or a female? God gave him a female. Thus, homosexuality was not meant to exist. I personally believe that homosexuals are opressed by demons, but lets not get into that.
The reason for the existence of homosexuality is in Romans 1, most notably in verses 24 through 27.


24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful luts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

The bolded words show that the Bible does, in fact, clearly state that homosexuality is a sin, and that isn't open to anyone's interpretation. Argue that as much as you want, because that verse will kill it. According to the Bible, our own guide, it is a sin. So, lets get off of that point.

People don't decide to be a homosexual. They decide to come out of the closet. I know a variety of people who said they have felt that they were homosexual or bisexual and didn't want to be. It's not something you're born with, but something that happens along the way, whether you want it or not.

THE GOOD NEWS IS that homosexuality is a sin, and like any other sin, you can pray for forgivness and be (dare I say it?) "cured" of it. Okay, people are going to kill me for saying that, but it's true. If you want to be rid of it, all you need to do is pray. But once again, you have to want it.

I'm so sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm placing my opinion, and im sticking to it.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:05 pm


Littlelukee
In the beginning, God set the guideline for marriage. Marriage is the bonding of a man and woman, where they leave their houses and become one flesh. The precedent was set right there. If God had intended for two males or two females to marry, he would have given Adam a choice in that matter as well. Did he want a male, or a female? God gave him a female. Thus, homosexuality was not meant to exist. I personally believe that homosexuals are opressed by demons, but lets not get into that.
The reason for the existence of homosexuality is in Romans 1, most notably in verses 24 through 27.


24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful luts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

The bolded words show that the Bible does, in fact, clearly state that homosexuality is a sin, and that isn't open to anyone's interpretation. Argue that as much as you want, because that verse will kill it. According to the Bible, our own guide, it is a sin. So, lets get off of that point.

People don't decide to be a homosexual. They decide to come out of the closet. I know a variety of people who said they have felt that they were homosexual or bisexual and didn't want to be. It's not something you're born with, but something that happens along the way, whether you want it or not.

THE GOOD NEWS IS that homosexuality is a sin, and like any other sin, you can pray for forgivness and be (dare I say it?) "cured" of it. Okay, people are going to kill me for saying that, but it's true. If you want to be rid of it, all you need to do is pray. But once again, you have to want it.

I'm so sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm placing my opinion, and im sticking to it.


Well said, my friend, very well said. smile

Though one thing I tend to slightly disagree with is that you said that they don't choose it, while I think they can become homosexual either way; choice or no choice. Still, you're right that indeed it is a sin and that you can still be cured and forgiven for it just like with any other sin. As the verses you listed prove, the public has become rather shadowed under Satan's lies, and even some of the people who call themselves Christians are begining to believe them, whether they know it or not.

Aidan Drake


Littlelukee

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:39 pm


But would it make much sense for a straight person to suddenly decide that they want to be gay? I don't see how that could happen, really, unless they felt such feelings for the same sex for a while. It's not really based on decision, but on feelings.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:28 pm


Yeah, you make a good point.

Aidan Drake


Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:35 am


Littlelukee
In the beginning, God set the guideline for marriage. Marriage is the bonding of a man and woman, where they leave their houses and become one flesh. The precedent was set right there. If God had intended for two males or two females to marry, he would have given Adam a choice in that matter as well. Did he want a male, or a female? God gave him a female. Thus, homosexuality was not meant to exist. I personally believe that homosexuals are opressed by demons, but lets not get into that.
The reason for the existence of homosexuality is in Romans 1, most notably in verses 24 through 27.


24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful luts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

The bolded words show that the Bible does, in fact, clearly state that homosexuality is a sin, and that isn't open to anyone's interpretation. Argue that as much as you want, because that verse will kill it. According to the Bible, our own guide, it is a sin. So, lets get off of that point.

People don't decide to be a homosexual. They decide to come out of the closet. I know a variety of people who said they have felt that they were homosexual or bisexual and didn't want to be. It's not something you're born with, but something that happens along the way, whether you want it or not.

THE GOOD NEWS IS that homosexuality is a sin, and like any other sin, you can pray for forgivness and be (dare I say it?) "cured" of it. Okay, people are going to kill me for saying that, but it's true. If you want to be rid of it, all you need to do is pray. But once again, you have to want it.

I'm so sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm placing my opinion, and im sticking to it.


... Thank you for speaking out like that. Actually, I am an example of what you spoke of. I loved God more than my bodily wants... you are right. you have to want it, beleive it. And know that He loves you... and that He has a plan for you.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:23 pm


my question went unanswered.

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Littlelukee

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:05 pm


Comatose_Factor- I'm glad you made your way out of that. It's true that God loves us all and can take us out of sin, even though our human nature is sinful.

Levi Jones- What would your question be?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:48 pm


would rather have them be celibate for the rest of their lives or fake it with some one?

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Littlelukee

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:40 am


There is such a thing as change. If you want to change, you can change. All you need to do is want it. If you want to remain homosexual, and give no effort to change, then you will remain homosexual. You wont have to fake it, because you can change.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:44 pm


that was probably the least convincing thing I have heard in this entire thread.
I mean you you like what you like, you can condition yourself to do one thing after lots of attemps but at the end of the day you are who you are.

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flineagle

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:57 am


at the start of the day you have to choose whether to pick up your cross or not.

wether to be "who you are" which is a man born in sin, ruled by a sinful nature with impure desires. all that is normal because we have all fallen.

or to be who God wants you to be, peculiar and likely to be persecuted but called to be holy. He is working in us everyday that we allow Him to, He is clearing our sins and setting us free from the natural, bringing us to the supernatural. but sanctification is a process that lasts our whole lives.

I have Christian friends who were homosexual and thank the Lord, they have all been delivered and most of them are studying theology now. People I know who are still homosexual either deny God or his Word.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:29 pm


Littlelukee
But would it make much sense for a straight person to suddenly decide that they want to be gay? I don't see how that could happen, really, unless they felt such feelings for the same sex for a while. It's not really based on decision, but on feelings.
feelings are carnal and dependent on lots of environmental things as well as how we choose to perceive events in life. I went to a christian seminar on feelings when I was younger but I dont have any sources with me sweatdrop

I find enough proof from life; lets say you have to drink a gallon of water (as I have to do everyday now that Im on bedrest) and you only consider how bland it is and how you're not thirsty, then consider that theres sweet juices sitting only three feet away... yuo might not feel like drinking the water.
but if you know that the water will keep you(really me) from having contractions which could lead to preterm labor, a crummy hospital stay where they stick needles in your arm and leave sticky monitors around yuor belly, and a sick baby then you could feel like gulping down every drop of water for a better cause.

or if yuo consider all the pain that labor consists of and all the risks you might feel scared. but if yuo instead consider the wonderful blessing yuo will enjoy after the hard work and that God is holding yuo, yuor baby and esp the doctors hands then you might feel comforted and at peace.

final example: if you have to walk to a dark alley when its cold out and cats are fighting with each other near garbage cans yuo might feel uneasy. but if you have to walk down the same alley on a warm spring day when pretty flowers are flying thru the air and little children are playing hopscotch you might feel cheery.

perception and sight rule our feelings... but God asks us to look with our hearts and to trust Him to lead us, not our feelings.

flineagle


Caterham_Paladin
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:16 pm


>>>>>>>>>>WARNING<<<<<<<<<<


!!!HONEST OPINION INCOMING!!!


>>>>>>>>>>WARNING<<<<<<<<<<


You ARE what you WANT TO BE. Genes do affect things but you are the final determining factor. If you don't WANT to be gay you WON'T be gay!

Blaming stuff on your genes is a just another example of how much Americans fear responsibility. It falls into the same category as that "Mom didn't love me" CRAP!

This thread is getting old and it is not a good example to set for those new to Christ. I got nothing against a homosexual they are just trying to get attention or fulfill some longing they have, I am a patient person but I have said this many times... this thread needs to be shut down!


Edit: Never mind the thread will be moved into the discussion sub forum.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:50 pm


I moved this thread to the appropriate sub-forum... any more threads about homosexuality made in the main forum will be locked down and eventually deleted.

Now you can continue your discussions here in the forum designed for that purpose.

Caterham_Paladin
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