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Vajrabhairava

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:56 pm


Dave
Hey, thanks for the new vocabulary!

And by kinship terms, I mean the terms you use to refer to people in your family, like mother, father, brother, second cousin, maternal grandfather, etc. In Chinese there are a ridiculous amount of them, and I assume Japanese is similar. confused

が、と、で、に

猫は、髪がきれいです。
私は猫と犬をみる。 (could I just say "猫と犬をみる" and have 私 be implied?)
彼は犬とおよぎます。
私たち図書館で犬を食べます!
あなたはフォークで食べました。
私のお母さん公園に行きました。

Vajrabhairava
・が is sometimes used in place of は to show emphasis. Imagine you are arguing with someone about who will go to the store. You finally get tired of the argument and say, "I'll do it".

私 - わたし - I
行く - いく - go

私は行きます。 - I'll go. ("I" being emphasized.)

If は was used, it would just mean "I go" with no extra shades of meaning.

Should that be "私が行きます。"? wink

I like 公園 (kouen), 図書館 (toshokan) and 学生 (gakusei) because they're so similar to the Mandarin equivalents 公园 (gōngyuán) 图书馆 (túshūguǎn) and 学生 (xuéshēng). biggrin


Yup, typo. Sorry!

In the secnteces

私たち図書館で犬を食べます!
私のお母さん公園に行きました。

they should be

私たち図書館で犬を食べます!
私のお母さん公園に行きました。

Dont forget your はs! Andy yes, 私 can almost always be left out. Usually, you leave out extra information if you can manage to. Less is more in japanese. In informal language, particles are often left out like that, but when using the です・ます forms, it sounds odd.


Yeah, the similarities of the written langiage are nice. Thats why I like lerarning japanese and chinese an the same time, they complement each other nicley.


Okay, I understand now, about kinship terms. and you are right, like chinese, there are tons of them. You ought to recognize some of the kanji for them, Dave先生。

One thing about these. In japanese, you use different words for family mambers depending on if you are talking about your or someone elses family. As is the japanese way, when talking about someone else, more polite words are used, and when talking about yourself, humble words are used.

Your family:
母 - haha - mother
父 - chichi - father
弟 - otouto - little brother
妹 - omouto - little sister
姉 - ane - older sister
兄 - ani - older brother

Someone elses:
お母さん - okaasan - mother
お父さん - otousan - father
弟さん - otoutosan - little brother
妹さん - imoutosan - little sister
お姉さん - oneesan - older sister
お兄さん - oniisan - older brother

There are of course many more, butthose are the basic ones to know.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:57 pm


Now that I have a computer that supports Japanese characters (a Mac mini), how do I type them? D:

Eccentric Iconoclast
Vice Captain


Vajrabhairava

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:19 pm


No idea. I don't know anything about macs, and I don't even know how I got it on the computer I have! sweatdrop

My suggestion, ask google.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:57 pm


I can help! 3nodding

I don't have a Mac mini, but we have the iMac G4 (circa 2001, I think) with the latest version.

See in the top right-hand corner with the time? See the flag? Click it and scroll down to "open international". (this can also be done by opening System Preferences and selecting "International" in the top row, then selecting "Input Menu").

Find the Kotoeri set and choose what character sets you'd like. Close the window, and you're set to go!

Also, I was writing up some vocab, but I had to quit and forgot to save it.

Sachi_x


Eccentric Iconoclast
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:13 am


It doesn't bring up any sort of window or anything. >.<

I've looked it up on line, and it said that I was set to go too. No I'm not. xD
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:44 am


Ooh, keep this up and hope the lessons will stay long here as at current time of month i'm rather busy, but would love to read and learn from these bit later. Thank you so much for these anyways..

Deltae


Eccentric Iconoclast
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:15 am


I hope you don't mind me editing the title, I have very OCD tendencies sometimes. xd

I'll just type Japanese with Word's Character Map for now, until I figure out how to make it work with the palette.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:15 am


Eccentric Iconoclast
Now that I have a computer that supports Japanese characters (a Mac mini), how do I type them? D:


There's a program called NJStar that you can download; it'll let you type in hiragana or katacana, and for the time that you officially have the free trial, it will let you insert kanji with the kana--after taht, you'll have to use radical lookup or paste to use kanji lookup, but it's handy, I think biggrin

Forgedawn


Sachi_x

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:29 pm


What does it tell you when you open system preferences? All the software and characters should be easily accessible, but again, I don't know much about the Mac Mini (assuming it's not like the regular desktops).
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:31 pm


This topic is fascinating ^^ annoyingly, i don't have time to read it all right now, but I'll get to it later.. sweatdrop

I have a PC, but I've managed to set up the thingy for Japanese typing..

if you can't view the charecters, you can't type them. To view the charecters you have to find the disk for your OS (like Windows XP or something) and install the Japanese lanuage... i'm pretty sure you can do that by using the control panel or something (i'm not sure how this would work on a mac though )

once you've done this, to type the charecters, go to the control panel, and click on "Regional and language settings". click on the "Languages" Tab and then click "Details.." then click "Add..." then Find the Japanese input language, and make sure your keyboard layout is what it is usually...

once that is done, you should be able to click on the "EN" in the corner to change it to "JP" then the language bar should appear, and you should be able to find the settings that you wish to use... fiddle about with it and you may figure it out sweatdrop

i know that if you want to find the Kanji for something, there are lots of different kinds, and i would suggest using www.rikai.com to translate the kanji so it akes sense..

I dunno if this helps, but yeah, that's how I did it :/

じゃね!

sonyaswan


Lunar X10

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:17 pm


So, about the relative thing, it would be something like...

Your okaasan...

My haha...

But when you are talking directly to that relative, then you say "Okaasan"?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:43 am


Basically.

Vajra B. Hairava


lingua

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:31 pm


Spiffy! I've registered to take Japanese 101 in the fall and I think I'll use your lessons to get a head start, especially since I just figured out how to do the characters on my laptop, so I'm feeling uber geeky. whee
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:36 pm


Waa, very good jobs! Your lesson pretty good, vajrabhairaba san! Your nihongo, maybe more better then my english. But your name, not good to spell. stressed

Rainbow Pony Kitty


Lunar X10

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:38 pm


This is probably the best job I've seen in the entire subforum! You're an excelent teacher!
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