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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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 Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:44 pm
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:37 pm
I have a question that I need answered for a debate Im having regarding following the laws of judaism.
Now, Ive been told that many of the 613 cannot be followed since the temple no longer exists and that the theocratic state of israel doesnt exist.
I need to know why and who said that those specific laws cannot be followed because of the reasons above. Is there places in the bible where it specifies that they only can be performed in those circumstances or was it a decision made by rabbis or something sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:32 pm
Suicidal Marshmallow I have a question that I need answered for a debate Im having regarding following the laws of judaism. Now, Ive been told that many of the 613 cannot be followed since the temple no longer exists and that the theocratic state of israel doesnt exist. I need to know why and who said that those specific laws cannot be followed because of the reasons above. Is there places in the bible where it specifies that they only can be performed in those circumstances or was it a decision made by rabbis or something sweatdrop I don't know about mitzvot not being performed because the theocratic state of Israel no longer exists, but here are mitzvot that can't be performed becuse the Temple is no longer in exsitence. The rabbis said that we could not do the mitzvot, but even if they had not, there would still be no way to do them. For example, a lot of the 613 mitzvot have to do with sacrifices at the Mishkan, there is no possible way we could do those mitzvot simply because we don't have a Mishkan. *If you're looking for a list of the 613 mitzvot, you can try this link: http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:34 am
Suicidal Marshmallow I have a question that I need answered for a debate Im having regarding following the laws of judaism. Now, Ive been told that many of the 613 cannot be followed since the temple no longer exists and that the theocratic state of israel doesnt exist. I need to know why and who said that those specific laws cannot be followed because of the reasons above. Is there places in the bible where it specifies that they only can be performed in those circumstances or was it a decision made by rabbis or something sweatdrop That's a good question, I'm gonna look that one up... Just so you all know, that's one of the more heavier questions that heritics use to start arguements xd .
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:55 pm
This is just a question that has been bugging me and somewhat has to do with jewish laws. I know that one is for men to have the covenant with god, but how does a woman have the covenant with god?
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:10 pm
G-d did made a covenant with the women, at Mt. Sinai. The torah says there something like " And so you'll say to Yakov's house and to Israel's sons", and Rashi says there, that: "Yakov's house - those are the women", and that's why there is language duplication ( It seems that "Yakov's house" and "Israel's sons" are having the same meaning, but Rashi says that part A is about women and part B is about men)
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:30 am
darkphoenix1247 What is the significance of the Star of David/Jewish star? I mean, I know it's important to Judaism, but how was it created?
I don't know if this was answered yet.
Dovid HaMelech used it in some kabbalah-like stuff.
I'm not totally sure on this, I just heard it from my older brother. (Who probably heard it from his rebbe.)
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:19 am
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Eloquent Conversationalist
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:31 pm
kingpinsqeezels Okay. I've got a question! There's a ceremony I've heard of that I think only women have to do when they want to convert to Orthodox Judaism where you take a bath or something like that. I don't know about anyone else. But I think it would be creepy to be naked in front of a Rabbi. Apparently it's supposed to be a really intense experience though. Anyway, I was just wondering what you do during it. It isn't really a law I guess...but it's a question nonetheless. 3nodding The mikvah immersion is usually done with plastic floaty balls (like in those ball-filled pits in some playgrounds, you know?) poured into the water. They spread over the surface of the water and hide everything. The woman gets in the water, and the three rabbis stand behind a screen so that they can't see her at all. Then the (female) mikvah attendant says, "All right, immerse," and the convert ducks under the water (and under the plastic floaty balls), and the rabbis quickly look over the top of the screen, then look away and leave the room as she comes up for air. There are places that don't use the plastic balls, and I've always wondered why not. It seems very immodest to me, personally. I've also heard of conversion immersions being done at the beach. The convert goes into the water wearing a long (very lightweight) robe made of an opaque, floating material a little like a swimsuit fabric. She goes in up to her shoulders or so, then removes the garment and hands it to a (female) friend, while submersed up to her shoulders. The friend waves the garment to prove that the woman is in full contact with the water, and the rabbis witness this from the shore. Then the woman ducks under and the friend yells, "Kosher!" Then she comes back up, puts the garment back on, and heads back to shore.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:42 pm
Suicidal Marshmallow I have a question that I need answered for a debate Im having regarding following the laws of judaism. Now, Ive been told that many of the 613 cannot be followed since the temple no longer exists and that the theocratic state of israel doesnt exist. I need to know why and who said that those specific laws cannot be followed because of the reasons above. Is there places in the bible where it specifies that they only can be performed in those circumstances or was it a decision made by rabbis or something sweatdrop The laws that say "bring X to the Temple" obviously can't be followed if there is no Temple. Likewise, the laws that require actions to be performed when entering the Temple. These laws are suspended until Mashiach comes, rebuilds the temple, unites all Jews in the land of Israel, and re-establishes the kingly line and/or the Sanhedrin. Also: There are laws specifically for males which women can't follow, and laws specifically for females which men can't follow. There are laws which can only be followed by a Levite, and laws that can only be followed by a Kohein, and laws that can only be followed by a Jew, while others are permitted to a Gentile but not required, and still others are required of a Gentile. There are laws that can only be followed within the Biblically defined borders of the land of Israel (not always the same as the modern boundaries), and laws that can only be followed within Jerusalem. Today, a scant 1/3 of the laws, or thereabouts, can actually be observed. We fulfill our obligation in the laws by praying, and by studying the laws so that the generation of Mashiach's time will understand how to resume obeying those laws.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:49 pm
Donovinhs Knight This is just a question that has been bugging me and somewhat has to do with jewish laws. I know that one is for men to have the covenant with god, but how does a woman have the covenant with god? Women are enclosed; men are exposed. It's in our biology and it's in our n'shamot (souls). Men's covenant is cut in their flesh, in circumcision. Women's covenant doesn't require an outward sign. This is an echo of other differences in our observance: Men require tefillin and tzitziyot as aids to prayer, and must read their prayers from a siddur (prayer book) in order to focus their minds. Women are permitted, but not required, to do all three; women's thoughts and souls connect with Hashem with full kavanah at many times throughout the day with no prompting at all.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:46 pm
thanks divash. those were very informative, and well written.
it's a shame how dead this forum is...
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:08 pm
Thanks, Zonko. smile It's only as inactive as people want it to be. One grain of rice helps her sisters fill the bowl -- if everyone who wanted the place to be active would post once a day, it'd be active in no time.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:30 pm
It's inactive because of it's location. People rarely come into this subforum...
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:04 pm
I come here a lot. I just don't say much because normally there's not much I can say that hasn't already been said.
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