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 Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:14 pm
May 7th, 2019: Lanzer Birth Control Glasses Art / StaffQuestion: Will Gaia be officially releasing a statement about this thread? I believe the information contained in it is quite compelling and deserves a clear, formal response from someone other than the artist in question. I didn't know much about the details, but I'm sure that the art team will provide sufficient information about the issue, and we will step in if really necessary.
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:40 pm
May 14th, 2019: Lanzer Knight Yoshi FeatureCan we get a post limit/timer for new accounts. Today there was an account posting porn in the CB very quickly. While it's not fool proof, it would at least mitigate it to some degree. In another forum there's a 15min cool down for every 3 posts for the first 3 days. I feel something like this would be beneficial to mitigate spam to some degree. Sure I can add that in, I'll also block all posts by a new user if its first few posts received enough complaints.
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 6:26 pm
May 21st, 2019: Jak Bauer Yen Quest Misc/Forums:There have been an increasing lack of moderation in the "offsite advertisement" spam we've been getting for the past few weeks now. GCD, SF, Question & Assistance forums have offsite spam threads dating as far back as a week even. Is there really no one tasked to clear these up? Because it is getting on my nerves to just report, ignore, and have that many spam taking up the front page of forums I frequently visit. Also, I have been checking to see if there's anyone online that have the ability to move/deal with said spam. 100% offline for the most part (mod assist do not deal with these threads). :/ Hi there, Thanks for the heads up. I will talk to someone about getting that taken care of! Lanzer Thank you for pointing this out. We're working on tools to let users help deal with these issues. The system should be able to quickly remove the offending threads and leave them for mods to review whether they are online or not.
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:28 pm
May 29th, 2019: Lanzer Knight Yoshi FeatureSo I’ve been thinking about this. Why not move the report system to Zen Desk? Have one system/location for all tickets/reports. It's mainly because of legacy. System was created back in 2005 and migrating everything over takes a lot of time, and we have to balance between doing that or working on major features. Jak Bauer Hi there, The current report system built into Gaia automatically provides information that we use to process the reports. Zendesk doesn't have that capability natively and it would be prohibitively time and money intensive currently to get it to replicate the same functions.
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:00 pm
June 26th, 2019: Lanzer Knight Yoshi Feature informationI was wondering what kind of encryption do you do for private messages? I know Gaia's built on old PHPBB 2.x, but have you added any encryption since? For instance, Discourse uses JavaScript to create AES symmetric encryption prior to transmission so that it can't even be intercepted, and stretches the pub/priv key using PBKDF2, and further hashes the private key with the users password that is only decrypted on the client with said password and stored in IndexDB. Given that much of Gaia's JS infrastructure is rather dated, is there encryption? Do you plan to add such encryption? Gaia has yet to implement a symmetric encryption for our messaging platform. Message content are stored in clear text, and while encryption in general is a good thing, implementation means essentially all moderation related to messaging would be highly difficult, so it's not currently high in our priority. Lanzer Pink Mouse Amelia FeaturesCould we please get reporting added to the Gaia app as a priority? Even if browsing the site on mobile, I would like to, and would suggest that it is vital to for the safety and reputation of the site, to be able to use a report feature just like it can be used on the main website. Lots of users primarily access the site on mobile and they shouldn't be stopped from flagging abusive or otherwise inappropriate content. Sorry there are still a lot of important features missing. We will add reporting as soon as possible.
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:49 pm
July 2nd, 2019: Jak Bauer Vision Blurs Jak Bauer Vision Blurs Features? I don't know where to put this, honestly.This is a repost from last week; I would love to see this addressed as would many other users. I don't want to get obnoxious with this post, but some feedback from the staff on this would be very much appreciated, as it is a rather important question to get out there.I've posted about this a few times now, in some ATS threads, and in a pre-ATS thread. It'll get obnoxious to keep seeing this question over and over again, but it bears repeating over and over again because I feel (and I've noticed from interactions with previous posts I've made about this subject, many others feel too), that it's a topic that does need to be brought up. It's also something that does need a resolution. As usual, I'll try to keep my head level about things, as I talk through this. I understand that IP bans are something that cannot be done, as there are users who share the same IP address -- that being said, I understand that this is not an option for handling the situation that I'm about to readdress once again. I also understand that VPNs exist, so that also probably plays a big part in how difficult it is to effectively curb some of the more distasteful behaviors that happen on Gaia -- more specifically, in the Chatterbox. It makes it difficult, I'm sure, to come up with a way to handle the troubling and abusive behaviors of repeat offenders on this site. So it has me wondering, as it has for a while now, what can be done about this kind of thing to prevent it from continuing in the future. There's been a staggering amount of repeat-offending abusive and toxic users in the CB. They get banned, come back with a new account, trot along with the same behavior that got them banned before, and wind up banned again to come back later. It's a cycle that continuously repeats itself, and it's tiring. You can add these users to your ignored list, but eventually they pop back up with a new account, and you have to add that account to the ignore list too. You can clear out the old banned accounts, sure, to keep from meeting the ignored cap. The problem with this is, we shouldn't have to constantly be putting these users on our ignored lists. These users shouldn't even remotely be allowed to come back to this site at all. You can report their behavior, but I'm sure that the moderators of this site are more often than not swamped with so many other things, that threads from some of these volatile users stick around for hours or sometimes even days -- I do not blame the mods for their heavy workloads, and I do commend the work that they do in regards to cleaning up the CB when they can. They do try to keep things as tidy as they can, and I know that. Other users know that too. We appreciate the attempts made to make sure Gaia is a safe place for all people. What does Gaia plan to do to further discourage this kind of behavior though? How does Gaia plan to keep this kind of thing from happening in the future? Because some of these repeat offenders are thoroughly cruel with the way that they attack users day after day. Their language is crude, vulgar, and inflammatory. I know I'm sure as hell worried about abusing the report button on these people because it'll seem like they're targeted reports. The fact of the matter is, these users consistently break and bend several rules at any given moment in time. Sexually explicit discussions, hate speech, slurs, trolling and abuse -- it's disheartening to see this kind of thing time after time after time. Something needs to be done about this. Gaia likes to remain a 'safe' place for people to come and hang out, but this behavior continues. Many users are tired of seeing this behavior pop up again day after day; while we understand there's only so much the staff can do as a whole, we really just want to see something done that makes this behavior stop. It's not fair to the targeted users who constantly wind up verbally abused or humiliated by these types of users. It's also not fair to the people who come to Gaia to escape that kind of thing in the real world, to have to come here and see other people going through that. Seriously, something needs to be done about this. It can't just be a 'ban issued' type thing anymore -- as I've already stated, these users come back. I want to continue enjoying this website -- I've been here for nearly 15 years of my life. I have grown up and watched Gaia evolve as I've been here. I've seen beautiful things come out of this site, and I've seen some real horrors come out of it too. Horrors like this that I've brought up in this post. I don't want to see Gaia go down a path where people are constantly bullied or harrassed by other users who think that they're above the Terms of Service and can freely break those terms because they're 'what keeps this site alive'. I want to see something done about this, guys. I really do. I want people to feel comfortable here. I want people to be able to enjoy their experiences here and not worry that some kid with too much time on their hands is going to turn around and attack them for whatever reason. Please, Gaia. Please do something about this. I normally come to ATS with the hopes of talking about positive things, and right now I just can't. There's a negative cloud that's lingering here and it's one that needs to be addressed. I'll continue to address it for as long as I need to. Please. What can be done about this kind of behavior, to prevent it from continuing? Hi there, We can understand your issue with these users but, to be honest as you yourself pointed out, it's almost impossible to stop users from coming back to the site. IP bans are not the best solution again, as you point out. This is not an issue where we do not WANT to provide a quick and easy fix, but technologically and practically what you are asking for on an open forum is almost impossible to do other than as we have done so: Have these users reported and taken care of through our current systems. That is not to say that we don't want a better solution, and if/when we figure it out please be assured we will put something in place A.S.A.P. From the bottom of my heart, let me just say thank you for at least giving an answer on this, Jak. I do mean that. This whole situation has been something that's been bothering me for a while, and I know it bothers a great deal of other users, as well. For now, I guess the best we've got is the report system. I just don't want other people worrying (the way I've pointed out in my previous post) about looking like they're targeting users with reports. Because these problematic users do a lot of really bad things in one go, should we just report one thread, or should we report all threads that break ToS? I figure throwing this question out here too, users will know the best approach to how to handle these things as they happen. I wish you and the team all the luck in the world to finding a solution to this problem. It would be great to see this kind of behavior disappear from Gaia, but I'll also take it slowing down dramatically if that's the best that can be managed for now. So really, thank you again for answering me. Hi there, If you see issues with a user please feel free to report them, as long as what you are reporting are violations. If they are violating in multiple threads let us know so we can look into it in those threads. Lanzer Thank you for sharing your concern. Although IP bans are not being practiced (mostly because many programs can render it useless), we can add more features to help limit posts a new user can make and make new users more easily blocked. Jak Bauer Breast Goddess Jak Bauer Breast Goddess Features Are we ever going to implement something for banned items mainly tickets? (some of us have spent over 1000s of real life money to buy from cash shop) Hi there, What do you mean by "implement something"? Some companies have like buyback programs, I can't really give Gaia suggestions directly, I think it's a staff thing to consider what would make most sense and everything for the company and users. Hi there, If you are referring to being able to purchase a way out of a ban/buying the items on a banned account of yours, we do not currently support doing so and as of right now, have no plans to do so. Surprisingly it takes a concerted effort to get banned on Gaia. For smaller offenses it can take multiple times of offending and each time we warn you that if you continue you risk your account being banned. For larger offenses we have been very clear as to why these may result in being banned faster than for smaller ones. But in either case, the account owner has to deliberately violate our rules to be banned. If you are willing to do so, then you have to be willing to accept the consequences. In this case, the consequence results in your losing access to whatever is on your account permanently. If you don't want to risk that, then just follow the rules and there is no problem.
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:49 pm
July 9th, 2019: [NPC] Gaia Staff Welcome Back! Quote: Mobile App Security ConcernsAs a person that uses secondary authentication, anyone can just log into my account using the mobile app (should they successfully breach it). Could you remedy this security problem at all? It's a terrifying thought as the app features will increase as work is done. I've pointed this out in SCAS forum yet received no response. The mobile app will support secondary authentication soon, so secondary auth is required everywhere once it's enabled. Jak Bauer monsers_inc Question Category Bugs? My friend recently locked herself out of her account because she deleted her second auth app. How should she go about recovering her account? Will you offer backup codes so this doesn't happen? People accidentally lose phones or delete apps frequently enough that this shouldn't totally lock someone out. Hi there, Please have your friend fill out a ticket in our Help CenterLanzer Your friend can file a ticket or contact a site moderator and we can disable secondary auth for that account after some verification.
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:35 pm
July 17th, 2019: Lanzer ElegantlyLuminous Misc.After the debacle re: Warning Signs and nipples here, I wanted to see if the staff could make some sort of announcement or sticky or staff notice or something about the stance on nude avatars on Gaia? Maybe fix the TOS to match. (That was one of the big complaints. TOS seems to imply nudity isn't allowed, but we have a sticky that says it is.) There is this post (don't post sexually explicit content), which says "There is a difference between using items to create an avatar that is racy or provocative and creating an avatar that is obviously sexually explicit, such as depicting a sexual act." It's useful! (I think it's pretty clear, anyway.) But, it's gotten buried. It's from a few years ago. It's not necessarily avatar-specific, though they are mentioned. And we don't really have a clear method to report sexually explicit avatars. Contact a mod? Fill out a report form? (Which one?) Should we even bother-- i.e., do mods have any set guidelines to determine which are explicit and which are artistic or is it personal opinion? Things like that. I feel horrible that Yuroppa got the brunt of everyone's tempers over the issue. That wasn't fair or deserved. Just... maybe having a clear, easy-to-find, recent statement solely on avatars and nudity would come in handy. Sorry I had not been up to date on this issue. I will discuss it with the teams and determine what should be done about it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:48 pm
July 30th, 2019: Lanzer Neshira Namea Returns Misc.Why is an artist who blatantly plagiarized from another avatar site and traced items still employed here? They admitted to the wrongdoing and should not be allowed to continue making items, especially if those items are either being sold or used as user ticket items. A regular member would be banned for that kind of art theft, the rules should apply to staff also. I don't know the details about the issue mentioned but I'll speak to our art lead and inquire about it. Yuroppa Neshira Namea Returns Yuroppa Please do not spread and perpetuate false and harmful rumors. The artist has been spoken to about the similarity in designs and the situation has been handled internally. Rest assured that it won’t happen again. There is nothing false about it and it is no rumour. The artist admitted to it in the thread. The items were LINE BY LINE identical, not just in concept. There were others posted that were either common anime trope designs or very similar but not line by line as well. Those I'm willing to give a pass on. However these were items designed and drawn by another artist and the Gaia artist traced them. They were then sold for Gaia's profit. There is no false statement here. The thread in question That you yourself posted in. The matter clearly has not been solved as the artist is still employed by GaiaOnline. Staff are not above the rules and tracing art for sale is a bannable offense. Thus it should be a fireable one as well. Tracing art is a serious and, in this case, false accusation. Using reference is not the same thing as tracing. This was handled months ago and we will not be responding to comments or questions on the matter anymore - as it has reached a level that is borderline harassment.
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:53 pm
August 6th, 2019: Jak Bauer Apollos Liar Jak Bauer Apollos Liar FORUMS, SPAMRegarding the recent amount of spam in forums like Gaia Community Discussion and Site Feedback, would it be possible to revise the specified requirements of becoming a moderator or raise awareness about how moderating works and how to apply in order to encourage users to join the mod team? The amount of spam is really overwhelming and is a low priority to existing moderators due to the amount of other TOS violations on the site and a lack of manpower. Hi there, What is it that you would like to revise on the requirements for becoming a moderator? Hey! Users were mentioning that the amount of reports required to be made (100 in a 6 month period) was limiting potential moderators from joining when the situation is currently as bad as it is. There was also concern about whether the reports were being addressed or not due to the time frame in which they're addressed and the lack of follow-up when filing them. It might be beneficial to lower the amount of valid reports required in order to apply to bring more moderators onto staff. However, if that is not a possibility, it might help to make an announcement or staff update calling for new applicants. I've noticed that there are many who would like to help but don't understand how to and a post like that could give them some answers. There are 182 days in 6 months, we are asking for 100 reports, so that is less than 1 report a day, so not quite sure why there would be a concern about the amount we are looking for as being excessive. Perhaps you could explain further? For the ModApp we are looking for the number of reports and whether or not what it is you report is actually valid. Whether or not the report had been handled when we review you for the Moderator position doesn't matter, just whether or not the applicant has an awareness of what is a violation on Gaia. Hopefully that answers your questions! Jak Bauer Apollos Liar Jak Bauer Apollos Liar Because the situation is so pervasive and unrelenting and due to the lack of moderators on the team currently, the time frame and amount of reports, while normally fine, isn't the most helpful in the current situation. Because they are spread so thin, many moderators appear unable to divide work evenly in a way that allows them to handle serious site violations, as well as less severe reports. As a result, forums like GCD are flooded with advertisers on a daily basis and it takes up to a week for these threads to fall off of the front page. Many users don't even report them anymore because they aren't aware they are being taken care of. By reducing the amount of reports required to apply, it might encourage more users to join the mod team and address these concerns as well as help maintain other site issues so that the current team isn't struggling as much. I sorry to be a bit thick today, but really do not understand. You are saying there are plenty of posts to report due to all the violations on the site. But you want less reports to be required because of all the violations on the site? How is having less than a report a day an excessive burden to becoming a Moderator? If as you say, there is plenty to choose from, you could get your 100 in far less than 6 months. We do not wait for 6 months to review your work, if you get your 100 reports in 30 days that's fine with us, as long as you show you understand what constitutes a violation of site rules. Now, as a hint, sending in 100 reports of the same type will not show that you know overall what things break more than one rule, so I would suggest not just sending in 100 spam reports so that we can see that you do have an understanding of Gaia's Terms of Service overall, but other than that, you should be good! smile It's more of an issue of the current system not representing the current state of the Gaian community. There are several violations of course, but because of the lack of moderators and the piling up of issues on the forums, it would be beneficial to get more staff as soon as possible to help keep the forums afloat. Reducing the amount of reports needed to apply would allow more users to apply much faster to a team that desperately needs it. I was not aware that the process was within a six month period, rather than a six month wait. That is very good to hear. However, having to submit various reports rather than the most visible is not such good news. Because these advertisers are what we're confronted with the most on the daily basis, it accounts for a good chunk of the reports we make. When the site was much more active, it might have been easier to find multiple instances, but they seem few and far between on most parts of the site. EDIT: Since we're getting close to the end of the discussion, I can revise my questions and we can continue next week, if that's alright. Reporting more serious types of violations helps us see you understand that ads are not the most important/the only content for mods to deal with. This is considered when applications are reviewed. Jak Bauer Apollos Liar Jak Bauer Apollos Liar USERS, RULESThis is mostly a question for the moderators. Recently Knight Yoshi (ATS regular, GaiaUpgrade dev) was banned for "trolling" over a political discussion in Site Feedback. Could anyone explain why it was considered trolling so that we understand what crosses the line in that regard? Some fairly strong political discussions take place on Gaia and I feel it is in all of our best interests to understand where we are covered and how. Hi there, Unfortunately we can't discuss the details of an account with anyone other than the account owner. They can file a ticket in the Help Center to appeal their ban. If they don't know why they haven't been banned they can send me an inbox and I can explain it to them. I might have worded that a bit poorly. I don't really want details on the banning itself nor do I expect them, but I'd like to know how trolling would play into controversial political discussions. I wouldn't want to see users being punished over debate, regardless of the topic or feelings involved. You are making an assumption that the discussion was the reason the account was banned. As I said, we can't discuss any details but I can tell you that unless something you say breaks the rules, having a discussion, no matter how political typically will not get you banned. Gaia makes no judgements on your political opinions and welcomes any and all discussion. We only get involved if it changes from vigorous conversation to Trolling. Lanzer dis weebsite suxs Features > Forums Would i get banned if i said theres only two genders? Always okay to share your own opinion, but be considerate to who you're talking to, and always consider the point of your post, instead of whether you might be banned or not. Is your point to inform the reader, provide an alternative point of view with supporting reason, or for something else? Imagine yourself as the person you're posting to, if you deem that your own post has a point to whoever's listening, good chance you're not breaking any forum rules. But of course, no matter what, the core forum rules still apply. Lanzer NakedUnicornSexParty IP verification is broken and has been since the server migration, is it ever getting fixed We've tested it many times for the past few months, please PM me if you're still having issues and let me know what part of the IP verification isn't working for you and I'll have it fixed ASAP. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:59 pm
August 14th, 2019: Lanzer Orchid Dreams Features - RunwayIn a previous AtS, long, long ago, someone asked about changing the runway rule that allows asking for votes in CB to no longer be allowed. A staff member said you would revisit the idea of removing the exemption of CB votes, but nothing has come from it, so can we now get a definite answer to that question? Can we change the rules to no longer allow begging for votes anywhere? Sorry we couldn't find a good way to automatically enforce this rule. Unlike Avatar Arena, it was much harder to detect patterns where this is happening. For the time being, we can only have moderators remove Runway entries from reports of this happening.
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:26 pm
August 20th, 2019: Jak Bauer What Happens At Night TicketsIn regards to a recent SF thread, I am curious if there will be more information on the omni who gave out tickets, why weren't those tickets tracked and removed from the site? If the ticket was in the queue for 2+ years are stated in the SF thread then this should have been addressed way before that thread was even created. Hi there, Unfortunately we can only speak to the people affected by this issue and going forward will only do so directly due to privacy issues, sorry.
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:21 pm
August 27th, 2019: Lanzer NakedUnicornSexParty Lanzer! Did you fix the IP verification so it will work for me again? Oh no, the IP verification fix slipped under my radar. I will have it fixed this week.
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:16 pm
September 17th, 2019: Lanzer jenru connected question. if fans/ members made merch, say plushies. are we allow to pitch them to the staff? I'm not even sure how it would work to sell them. so i haven't ever tried. what is the legality of that? I know I can sell fanart and stuff at a convention, but I avoid ebay. of course you couldn't advertise them on Gaia itself, as that's against the rules (if i read them correctly) but could you sell them at cons or on my website? It is totally okay to sell merch at conventions. Your personal store at a marketplace site such as Ebay is okay too. In general, unless the merchandise is being mass marketed and sold not by an individual but by a distributor, then a company has to step in. There's this whole rule where if you don't defend your copyright from company A, you can't defend your copyright when company B infringes it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:58 pm
September 24th, 2019: Jak Bauer Apollos Liar Jak Bauer Apollos Liar SITE, PG-13 POLICYHey everyone. I wanted to ask what your guys' stance on the PG-13 policy is. As users, we get judged pretty harshly on it and many of us have been banned without warning for our avatars, our signatures, and our posts. However, Gaia does not seem to follow this rule very closely themselves. To name a few, the site has made several risque items that include but are not limited to: fetish gear (found typically in pornography or adult establishments); allusions to cultures, practices, and acts of an adult nature; underwear that resembles or emphasizes certain parts of one's body (namely one's reproductive anatomy); simulated gore and acts of violence to the extent that is usually featured in TV-MA or R-rated content; and so on. There is also the issue of things like the "hole" featured in the Isle de Gambino bathroom in Towns 2; the repeated release of items that center around the use of gambling (CIs/RIGs); and Gaia's infamous sister site Tentacl, the content of which users on this site were routinely polled over for some period of time. It seems evident to me that we as users are not being judged fairly or treated the same as Gaia staff in regard to this policy. Hi there, Gaia does not have a PG-13 policy. That is used for movie ratings. Gaia's users instead have to follow Gaia's Terms of Service. The whole PG-13 thing started years ago and we keep trying to n** it in the bud but it persists. smile We do have internal guidelines that are strictly followed as far as art goes and while some think of it as being too risque the next person may think it is fine. We understand that users don't like that there are things that the company can do that they can not, but Gaia has evolved it's Terms of Service over the years to deal with situations that have come up with users, content and behavior between users. If the site is 13+, wouldn't that general rule still apply? It's unfair that we are given this content and we're severely punished for using it. The rulings tend to be inconsistent and many of us are worried about where the line is actually drawn. I know the rules say one thing, but when we're dealt with, results vary. The rules are not inconsistent, but situational. There can be situations where a rule should be applied but others where it should not, which is covered in the ToS. Usually it's because someone hasn't read the ToS so didn't think what they did was against the rules, or that the rules applied to them. Moderators have extensive training on those rules and any time there is an issue it is looked into by staff when reported. Jak Bauer Apollos Liar Jak Bauer Apollos Liar But using items that the staff are allowed to make isn't in the ToS. I've seen the threads about how it's handled and it's still incredibly vague. "Tongue in cheek" is OK, but sexual content isn't. What exactly is a gloryhole or visible outlines in bulges? When artists are allowed to be suggestive and make suggestive content, why are we then punished for wearing it? There is a difference between wearing a single item that might be suggestive and purposefully creating an avatar with 2-4 items layered in such a way to not be suggestive but vulgar. Those are the situations that break Gaia's ToS. Could that be outlined clearly with clear examples of what isn't acceptable? Because it's not entirely uncommon that someone will be warned for the avatar and then randomly banned sometime later over it. We're tired of being afraid to equip certain item combos in case we get banned for them. It's almost as if the staff is baiting us into being banned by creating these items and not outlining how we're not to use them in clear, black and white terms with no room for misinterpretation. In a word, no. Why you ask? Because if we give a line then someone will figure out a way around that line and then point to our saying "Hey, that's the line!" That's what people who break rules do, try to figure out how to do so. We aren't baiting you into creating the item. If you believe the item you are making might be straddling that line, shouldn't that tell you that you are taking a chance we might have an issue with it? And typically one instance of creating an outfit won't get you banned. A history of doing so or doing other things can make that happen as well. Lanzer Jisen Meizuki Glitch/ErrorSo Friday there was a bug in the candy in the front page where instead of 50 plat, we get 50 million GC instead. The staff have removed it from the front page as well as removing the GC from accounts, including mine. However, we're still waiting for our trade to be enabled, even when the GC has been removed from the account. So how long do we have to wait for our trade to be enabled? All affected accounts should have their trades re-enabled as of last Friday. Let me make sure no one was left behind. Sorry about the wait.
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