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 Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:50 pm
You're absolutely right. If you can construct an argument based around that metaphore, I'll be obliged (spelling?) to argue. The result will be the same, I'm warning you. No metaphores are perfect, as they're not really what we're discussing. there's no experiment to disprove evolution, and no experiment to disprove creationism. That's it. I'm not even sure what I'm saying anymore, so I'll stop now.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:00 pm
I am fully aware that swearing is not good for you. I don't always believe in what people say. My definition of a bad-mouth is cursing directly at SOMEONE. Things don't count. However, muttering under your breath about another person, and cursing, may as well be a sin. I know people do it. I do it. Unfortunately, one cannot fully remove all sin. I've heard that the sins we commit are because you let Satan rule your decisions. Is that seriously okay? If, infact, something IS deemed bad for you to say and you keep saying it, it's probably Satan that keeps making you say it. Therefore, you must struggle to win over him, so he doesn't make you say unkind things to other human beings or even at objects. Objects can't hear you, no, but God and Satan can. Satan will take advantage of that and make you continue. You have to be strong enough and take responsibility for the sins you've committed. Oh, dear, I have a lot of punishment to go through. eek
You, as a human, cannot control the fact you have emotions. You WILL get angry, depressed, and every other negative thing there is, but you don't have to lose yourself in your emotions so much, you lose control. You have to stay within limits and---I don't remember this being a psychology class, but lets continue this anyway---let the negative energy go. Be as free as the wind, man. It is your DESTINY! o.o; What I'm saying is, you may curse when you're angry. Just be ready for the punishment.
More on this subject when I click on the 'edit' button.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:59 pm
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:14 pm
i swear too much for my own good but latley i have been trying to not swear that much. Its working sorta but at least im trying.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:57 pm
Okay, steering everyone back on topic (not that we strayed too much, but ... yeah): I think another good reason, if you throw out all the verses or just interpret them differently: the world thinks swearing is no big deal. If you swear that gives the impression that you are of the world when we are to not be of the world. People won't be able to see any difference between you and the non-Christian if you swear all the time. It's no big deal, and that's exactly why you shouldn't do it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:04 pm
proverbs talks about how a man who holds is tounge is wise and the man who holds his tounge loosely is a fool.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:15 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly Okay, steering everyone back on topic (not that we strayed too much, but ... yeah): I think another good reason, if you throw out all the verses or just interpret them differently: the world thinks swearing is no big deal. If you swear that gives the impression that you are of the world when we are to not be of the world. People won't be able to see any difference between you and the non-Christian if you swear all the time. It's no big deal, and that's exactly why you shouldn't do it. The world thinks that wearing clothes is no big deal. The world thinks that being polite is no big deal. The world thinks that alot of things are 'no big deal'. If we base our action around that and not what God thinks, then Christianity is in a sorry state indeed.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:39 pm
Cometh The Inquisitor Fushigi na Butterfly Okay, steering everyone back on topic (not that we strayed too much, but ... yeah): I think another good reason, if you throw out all the verses or just interpret them differently: the world thinks swearing is no big deal. If you swear that gives the impression that you are of the world when we are to not be of the world. People won't be able to see any difference between you and the non-Christian if you swear all the time. It's no big deal, and that's exactly why you shouldn't do it. The world thinks that wearing clothes is no big deal. The world thinks that being polite is no big deal. The world thinks that alot of things are 'no big deal'. If we base our action around that and not what God thinks, then Christianity is in a sorry state indeed.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:12 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly Yeah, but wearing clothes No, actually, if anything, it promotes nudism. Remember, clothes only came after the Fall of man, as a result ofour Sin. Quote: and being polite are also things that the Bible promotes No, Jesus said to 'love your neighbor', not be nice to him. In fact, there isn't a single verse that mentions being 'polite' in the entire Bible. Quote: whereas swearing is clearly not condoned. Swearing is never mentioned, so it can't be 'clearly' anything.
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:44 pm
.... okay, fine. You have good points. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:41 am
@Commeth: I just noticed you're a mod in the Anti-Love guild. eek I'm in that guild too! xD
@JesusFreak: Back on subject, that was quite uncalled for. I understand that you have had a long day, but understand that cursing, especially in a Christian guild, like that is quite pointless.
My Actual Post:
On the subject of cursing, I have no idea what promoted me to say what I did before, but it really sort of threw a rock back at me. Meaning...it probably made no sense whatsoever. Maybe it did, but I didn't quite grasp the meaning and I'm the one who wrote it >.>;
I curse, because I see no reason to hide who I am. When it all comes down to a serious situation, my difference is actually quite obvious.
True, I don't always appear as a Christian, but we are all humans. Expect us to sin, because this world is not perfect. The world that God has created for those that enter Heaven and the New Earth ARE perfect, however, and there we will forever be without sin.
I will probably get another rock thrown at me; I mean a point is thrown at me to totally make this seem totally ridiculous. xP...
In the Book of John, one of the four gospels and the first book of the Bible I actually finished (XD) other than Revelation, which I shall soon finish, does state to live life by truth. True, you should keep some things to yourself to avoid harming anyone.
However, if you are asked for an opinion, you should say it. It may hurt, but your opinion was asked for. Some things should, most should infact, require a light opinion. A true opinion, but not going off into grave detail. If you dislike something, make the statement as brief as possible and try not to hurt anyone's feelings.
I know swearing is bad, and it should in no way show who you truly are. That is not the statement I'm making.
Actually...I found myself in a hole. xd More than likely, a natural reply to this statement would be, "What kind of person needs to reveal who they are by cursing?" or "If you need to curse to show who you are, you probably need to learn a better selection of words." o.o;
Well, I suppose I have a reason or two to back that up, although they don't defend my every statement, and I haven't the time to attempt to do so at this moment. More than likely, they may bring subject to new questions and perhaps even a few comebacks that catch me off guard. However, I am trying to catch myself before those points and come up with fitting replies to them.
One reason is that bottling your emotions up is bad. That much is obvious. A common question to counter this statement would naturally be, of course, "You need to curse to show your emotions?" o-o' Well, ummmm...no...you don't. In fact, cursing doesn't really show any emotion. It just proves your inability to use other words to express yourself. Okay, ummmmmmm...o_O; I think I just countered myself. LOL!
My second reason is that...okay, forget it. I'll just come up with another way to counter myself and make this reason null and void ._.'
.____.' Though, it is impossible to totally remove ourselves of sin. We can still sin, even if we don't appear to be. Our thoughts could be corrupted too. Only God can remove us of sin forever, but while we live on Earth, there will be sin.
I just came up with another factor.
If our thoughts are corrupted, then why would it make us more corrupted to openly voice those---<<; Nevermind. I just countered myself again. o_o; If you're thoughts are corrupted, there is obviously a negative influence around somewhere that needs to be disposed of. There's really no escaping the negative influence though. Society, itself, is negative.
((edit complete. I am not finished speaking on this subject or backing myself up. I am, by all means, thinking it over xD... I have to return to the US sometime and hopefully, I'll be back soon, maybe 11 AM or something US EST. If you're wondering what I mean by 'hopefully'...I was supposed to return yesterday. If you want to know what that means, wait until I find the section for answered prayers or something like miracles or something...))
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:52 am
0_o
sorry - i wrote that post at about 3 in the morning.
Anyway thanx to the person who posted that verse from Collossians. ive been looking for an excuse to clean up my language for a while now.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:50 pm
Are we all still debating on the subject of swearing? Absolutely Bloughr.
If the Bible says don't do it, then don't do it. You're not arguing with people, you're arguing with the Word, which is Jesus. You know, The Word was with God in the beginning and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. That's Jesus. If the Word of God says put it all away from you, then do it.
Since, maybe, you've decided to stop arguing with the Lord just think. Jesus using a cuss word???
-------->If thou shalt keep my f****** commandmants...
-------->D*** Satan, it is written...
I don't think so. At all.
Aside from that you're arguing with Paul. Someone who knew the Lord personally. And I know that Paul knew what he was doing when he said to put it all away from you. He knew Jesus personally. He even said in one of his epistles to follow his ensample as he followed Jesus.
Most importantly you are representing Christ. If you want to be a hypocrite of a Christian by all means go ahead. But I don't want to stand before God and have that on my record. He watches everything you do and knows what you do and say, it's only by asking of forgiveness that he forgives your sins. And just to let you know, that conscience God gave you works like this:
*You say a bad word
Conscience: You weren't supposed to say that.
The Bible: You are not supposed to say that and your conscience is right.
Holy Spirit: You should do or say this instead of cursing.
I know what it's like because I used to curse all the time. But you know what? God, The Word, said not to do it. So I did what I could to not cuss and I asked God to help me. God won't give you victory if you don't want it. Fact people and simple. Stop trying to make it not so bad and confess you've done something wrong. And the Bible says that if you know something and do it not, it is sin. So you stand before God. I'd rather be blameless. biggrin
Edit: Yes, it is hard to live in today's world because it is full of sin. That does not mean that you need to be the world. Basically, none of you should have a problem with putting swearing and cursing aside. If you are carnally minded that's another thing, cause you can't even understand what is clearly written.
If I come across as unemotional and brutal I apologize. There is nothing here that I say that I do not tell myself. I'm usually a happy person, but all of you are "debating" God's Word, which is Jesus.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:56 pm
Tokyjin_2006 If the Bible says don't do it, then don't do it. You're not arguing with people, you're arguing with the Word, which is Jesus. You know, The Word was with God in the beginning and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. That's Jesus. If the Word of God says put it all away from you, then do it. The point is, though, that the Bible doesn't say that swearing is a sin. This is a commen misconception that has permeated christianity today. Quote: Since, maybe, you've decided to stop arguing with the Lord just think. Jesus using a cuss word??? -------->If thou shalt keep my f****** commandmants... -------->D*** Satan, it is written... I don't think so. At all.Jesus also never spoke in english. Is that a sin now to? Quote: Aside from that you're arguing with Paul. Someone who knew the Lord personally. We all know G-d personally. That's why Jesus is there, to act as a personal intermediary between us and G-d. Quote: Most importantly you are representing Christ. If you want to be a hypocrite of a Christian by all means go ahead. Not an uncommon thing for me. Quote: Conscience: You weren't supposed to say that. I haven't felt bad for swearing since 5th grade. Quote: The Bible: You are not supposed to say that and your conscience is right. No, the Bible says that what we say is important, not how we say it. Just look at Matthew 5:22, where Jesus gives us the example of two insults, 'Raca' (which is an arameic term of contempt) and 'you fool'. One of which is answerable towards man alone, and hte other is answerable towards G-d. Why is this? Well, Raca, so far as we know, was the equivalent of a swear word in arameic. However, that is not the word that G-d cares about. It is 'you fool' which is a direct insult to someone. From this we can extrapolate that G-d cares more about the intent behind our words (be it hate or love or anything inbetween) than the words that we actually use. Quote: Holy Spirit: You should do or say this instead of cursing. If I did sin when I used that swear word, then the Holy spirit would be convicting me to be a more loving person, not to clean up my language.
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