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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:51 pm
That's true Havik, it's an active boost, but even if it was a passive boost, combo and burst only give two BONUS attacks. The key to stacking is it applies to the bonuses, not the total. So if burst was passive (but it's not, it's active) it would still stack with combo because while the total number of attacks is 3, the total number of BONUS attacks is 2.
I don't think its unreasonable for a genin to use three moves in one post accurately when combo and burst are used. Genin moves are, after all, simple.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:19 pm
I just think that it is a common sense situation, after all some Genin can learn B ranked jutsu, three of those in one post would be hard to aim properly for almost any ninja. However three D ranked tai moves strung together would end up almost perfect. It is of course another case by case situations, I just thought it should be said is all.
Also, I kinda of think of the one ability per post rule for all ninja as a passive +1 that every one gets. I understand if it is wrong, but when I was adding up the passive stacks, and active stats, I counted the first move per post as a passive +1.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:33 pm
But a strong will genin can only learn 1 B-rank. I don't think it's unreasonable to perform the same move three times either, it would just be repetative and easier to dodge because it's the same move three times. So I wouldn't suggest doing it, but they would work like normal if you did.
Well, that explains it then. If everybody is given the ability, then it's not a bonus. It's just basic.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:49 pm
Perhaps Azn has a point. It might be reasonable to give Ninjutsu Class shinobi a bonus to their chakra which could help to supplement their vast array of Ninjutsu...
It doesn't have to be huge, but maybe just something. Thoughts?
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:59 pm
@Deil Sometimes it would be fine, but what if some one uses leaf hurricane then right after spinning kick of death use a projectile jutsu. It would still be accurate, just not exact. Maybe they aimed for the neck, but instead hit the chest, or face.
Nothing to drastic of a change but I know people get annoyed when they say they threw 3 kunai at there neck enemy's neck and chest, then the other person says they got missed and for small cuts on there arm. I am just saying that in a situation were extreme speed is being used people need to keep in mind that exactly accurate aim is not a easy thing to achieve, and they post accordingly.
I don't really want to start a full scale discussion on the subject. I simple wanted to post something so people read, and consider it during there posts. Thanks though, it is always good to have both situations were it would, or would not work, so when people do read they get a better handle of how things work in this guild.
@Cobra: Maybe, or perhaps something like [Elemental train] which allows them to rank up one of the elements by 2, or two of there elements by one. That way we can leave the chakra bonuses up to the attributes.
The reason I say this is because to me the classes are what dictate how a ninja trains, and attributes/specialty's dictate the ninja's... how to say this the right way... What the ninja is "born with". I don't really like the idea of letting a class give more chakra. Plus giving them there own train give them more posts, and help the whole character development aspect of the class.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:16 pm
I would like to do something more unconventional than a stat/rank boost, like increasing the number of signature ninjutsu they can have. We could also allow them to boost the duration of ninjutsu that last longer than one post by one additional post, and reduce the cool-off of ninjutsu with cool-off periods by one post.
Another potential class ability would be to be able to tell what the element of an attack will be purely by its handsigns. That would allow the ninjutsu class to form a counter ninjutsu strong (or at least not weak) against the enemy's ninjutsu while it is still being formed.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:16 pm
@ Havik Speed has it's disadvantages and advantages but I do agree that accuracy falls a bit short while moving (Unless your some legendary marksman or some crap like that). Anyways, throwing projectiles is not different then trying to ride a horse and throw a knife. Even with the Agility perk, the speed does have a counter balance and it will throw the accuracy off a bit. Now maybe if one were a Jounin or even a Kage or Sannin, then it's possible they may never miss.
Ranking up 1 element by two levels could be very destructive... Maybe 1 element by 1 rank is good enough. I'm not sure how it goes in here either so suggesting is probably out of forte here. But Ninjutsu users do have more chakra than everyone, Bijuu host being the only ones that surpass them.
I would say do the Elemental Train idea because if you give Ninjutsu a small boost, then everyone will be gunning for that class just for the small chakra boost. And in my experience, every chakra point counts. It would really just off set the balance of all of the classes to be honest.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:28 pm
Havik:
No to the Elemental Train... there is a reason only one think allows a plus 2 to jutsu strength... and its because that is VERY powerful.
This would just be to increase total reserves alongside any possible attribute bonuses to supplement the extra ninjutsu they have to use and supplement their means to take advantage of it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:43 pm
Is it really any stronger than Havik having +2 to his strength? If I hit someone dead on with a C ranked tai move, at sp. Jounin with with +2 to my strength what ever I hit it probably gonna die soon after.
When I said it I also meant the normal [train] rules would apply like the amount of posts needed, and the fact that it can only be done once per rank.
As for the extra chakra I see how it can make sense and how it will help out a bit but I do think we could do something better than that.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:56 pm
The reason I believe ninjutsu should not get +2 ranks is because, unlike taijutsu, you can attack at range with ninjutsu but can`t with taijutsu. Taijutsu involves a lot more personal risk, and thus higher reward.
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:30 am
Would a custom weapon consisting of twin hooks be considered one custom or two?
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:34 am
I would think it would be considered one custom.
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HeadlessKoko Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:07 pm
One custom. Just like a Bow, Dual Dao, Gloves or Nunchaku.
I have no idea for a Special Ability regarding the Ninjutsu Class, as I've stated before, I think they're strong as it is.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:42 pm
would it be possible to make a fighting style involving chakra strings? although i have an interesting way of using them, i fear the concept itself may be too close to a puppet master, and therefore take the value away from becoming a puppet master.
what i'm planning on doing, however, is with different (small) objects. like, a deck of cards ninja
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:14 pm
We kinda need more taijutsu and kenjutsu styles. I feel so limited when I look at them sad
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