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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:55 pm
May we please have an update about what is happening with the graduates subforum?
Also, an idea for the residential area (RA) names:
One of the sorting hat's songs says
"bold Gryffindor, from wild moor,
fair Ravenclaw, from glen,
sweet Hufflepuff, from valley broad,
shrewd Slytherin, from fen"
We could use these to name the residential areas, like the one we decided upon for Ravenclaw, Raven's Glen.
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:28 pm
Lyra we're not ignoring you! Sorry I'm just now replying.
Well as I mentioned before....we're getting a general guild to-do list together right now, then we'll have to plan an end of term event, and THEN we'll get the Grad subforum up and running (hopefully). I haven't even thought much about next term, but I'm thinking Spring Term will begin closer to the end of March which I think gives us enough time to have that subforum set up (so that the grads can all get together and refurbish their ideas.) by Spring Term.
I mentioned before that Adonis would make the introduction announcement, would you like to be the one that makes the other announcement (with all the roleplay rules, places, etc.?)
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:36 pm
@Icee: Yes, I would very much like to do that. Though there's still quite a few things that need to be decided. Since I have a tendency to make things a lot more long-winded than they generally need to be, would you be able to check it when I get a rough one done? Also, what is Adonis going to include in his announcement (ie what do I NOT need to include)?
@Everyone: We need some input! We have decided on the aging rules (I think; I'm going to have to do some back-reading), and the abbreviations. Now we need to decide a couple things
1) Names for the residential areas.
2) A system for shops. There will be a place where people can fill out an application to own a shop. The problem is how do we regulate the number of shops so that we don't end up with too many? Should we limit the number of shops? Also, what do we do with inactive shops or inactive shop owners?
Just an idea:
How about each person can only own one shop, either from the books or one of their own making. You can also become an assistant/employee in one other person's shop if they agree to "hire" you.
If a person has been inactive for a certain amount of time (how long?) their shop will be deleted or moved to the white tomb (mods?) (maybe move here for a certain amount of time in case they become active again, and then eventually delete). We need a mod's help on this. What do we do with inactive shops?
If we decide to limit the number of shops, people could just become an assistant in another shop until a space opens up. I don't know.
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:33 am
Okay on a different note completly, here is something else to discuss. I also posted this in the S.F.Q.
I don't know if this will help or hurt the subject about Grads ( I was talking with a student and he told me some of his ideas for the Grads, he didn't want to post them but, he said I could as long as I kept his name anonymous) but, I thought I should post these ideas anyway.
Quote: Avatar34 wrote: So can you think of anything for Grads to do besides the things you named already?
Quote: Anonymous wrote: Um there could be something like a training section cause they don't just know how to be an aura or a charms teacher or a ministry worker without some kind of training so maybe a special set of classes for grads only that can help the houses get points or something that way they can have some relation to their house or if we don't do something like that we will have people who graduate and there would be no real reason for them to say they were a {insert house here} cause they aren't doing anything to help the house these days or make a bribe type of thing [where former students can pay gold to the guild mule as a donation and their old house will get an increase in points based on the donations and then it makes it to where we can have lots of more expensive events and or more events /contests which will attract new members cause there are those who will try to get prizes and become interested in the guild.
Now I don't think the bribing is a good idea at all however, the special classes for Grads maybe something (I think, at least) that should be seriously discussed here. What do you guys and girls think?
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:55 am
As for the shops, I think we may be forgetting that there is also Inns in Hogsmeade and also some of the bars/pubs (such as The Leaky Cauldron-The Three Broomsticks) had rooms you could stay in or work in (as Fudge did). I just wasn't sure if when all of you are saying shops if that included Inns.
As for my input on this matter, I think that obviously the bars/pubs would be in town and I think the inns could belong in either. It would depend on what kind of feel the owner was going for to me (such as an Inn could be off the beaten path in a residential area or in the heart or downtown, it would just depend).
As for my 2 cents on everything else, I'm going to read all the pages all of you wrote and then come back to put in my opinion. As I am a Grad, this effects me more then the students (at this exact moment, at least, obviously it will in the near future) and I hope my input can help to finally finish this discussion and start the actual Shops/Inns/Residential Areas and everything else smile 3nodding .
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:54 am
I think that grads should only be allowed to own one shop. I think it would get confusing for people if they were allowed to have multiple shops. Also a lot of work for the person to keep the shops up and busy.
Im not sure how much hiring someone to work in your shop would work. It might work at the Inn/pubs because there could be waiters and cleaners. But for the little shops I feel the people that are hired say at a book shop could get bored. I think it depends on the person.
I think there should be a limit on how many shops there are because things could get to crowded. Like is there going to be one book shop with every book need for the class or separate shops for each class? Like shop for dark arts, muggle studies, CoMC. ect? I think you should make a list of shops that are open and it's a first come first served basis. Then if the person running the shop is gone for a month or more or no one is posting in the shop you let some one else have a chance at running the store.
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:17 am
Avatar34: When I have been saying "shops" I do actually mean shops. Taverns/pubs are included in that too, but not with rooms for people to stay in. The plan at the moment is to just have residential things in the specified areas. I think it makes it a whole lot less chaotic if homes stay in one area and shops in another.
Maybe what we could do though is have one inn in Hogsmeade. That way people could RP that they spend a night in Hogsmeade or something. Having just the one inn and no combined taverns/inns would prevent it from getting confusing (and RP would move along better with just one).
Neavah: I quite like those ideas about the shops (limited number; set list; first come first serve; one month inactivity limit). Only owning one shop per person is a good idea. Maybe certain places can hire one other person, like the taverns, but normal shops can't.
Why don't we try to come up with a list of shops? Don't forget that they should preferably be ones that will help RP thrive, not die. Also suggest a location if you wish.
I think that there should be just one of things (like one bookstore). It will help RP move along faster if everything is not too spread out.
Sweets shop
Tavern (graduates only)
Tavern (everyone)
Bookstore (Hogwarts textbooks, other wizard-world books, novels)
Joke shop
Pet store (and vet)
Magical items/instruments shop
Robes shop?
[[I'm tired. I'll reply more/edit this reply tomorrow. Sorry if it's long-winded and/or confusing.]]
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:54 am
I agree with Lyra and Neaveh.
Maybe we could add some sort of pet store to that list? And it could double as a vet (Ron took 'sick Scabbers' to the Diagon Ally pet store, after all) for students to RP an ill pet as well as get one.
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:38 pm
*smacks forehead* How on earth did I forget that one?! About a week ago I started typing up the results of all these discussions, ie coming up with the guidelines/rules/setup for the graduates subforum. I also made a list of some stores. Pet store was one of them, but I forgot to add it. I'll have to check if I missed any others. Goodness I can be ditsy.
Kitty, I'll edit my last post and add it.
Any idea where these shops should go? Also, what do you think about the idea of an inn?
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:12 pm
*Okay so I read all ten pages! Wow! My head is spinninng, lol. I'm so excited to see how everything turns out*
My idea about the inn was that if it is going to taking time before you can own a house or shop you could rent a room in the inn (such as in the dating period). If we can't own house right away where are we suppose to sleep on the imaginary steet?! xp The Inn could be used so many ways, it could be the place graduates who just arrived could stay until the "dating period" is over and their backstory complete. Also an Inn would have a kitchen and perharps a bar/pub inside of it not to mention a manager. So an Inn could keep several people employed. This would also help with the over population of shops!
As for Names of the RA for Syltherin I think a good option is an Underground Cavern, yes it does match like the other but what ryhmes and make sense with Fen?!
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:50 am
I take it that by "dating period" you mean the term between graduating and turning 30? If that is correct, then I agree with your ideas.
Graduates could live in the inn for a term while they find a house, get a job, etc.
We were originally thinking of having two pubs/taverns. One for everyone, and one for just graduates. The one inside the inn could be the one just for graduates. And then there could be a separate tavern that everyone can go to. The inn could employ two or three people.
Avatar, since you're a (previous?) Gryffindor, what name do you like for Gryffindor's RA? (I think your vote won't really count for Slytherin's RA, though you're welcome to voice your opinions. I like the cavern idea too and agree that Fen doesn't really go with much. A cavern's a bit more appealing to live in than a fen, too.)
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:19 am
Why do we need two separate inns/taverns? confused Wouldn't it be easier and less likely to have one of them be dead that way?
Also, what *is* a fen? whee
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:13 pm
@Animekitty
We dont need to but we would like a place where only gradutes can come and talk (just like a common room). The other one would be for everyone (Grads and Students) when Students come to Hgsmd. So there would only be one inn and there would be 2 taverns/pubs.
Also Fen is where Slytherin is from. I looked it up really quick on Lexicon and it says that there are alot of them near Norfolk.
@ Lyra
Yes, by dating period i mean that period of time.
As for the name of the RA I personally like Godics Hollow over Wild Moor but I don't dislike Wild Moor either.
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:10 pm
Kitty, the "tavern/pub" in the inn is basically just an area that is sort of like a common room for all of the graduates, as Avatar said. So there will be one inn (acting as a common room for graduates) and one tavern (for everyone).
Also, fen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fen
The Gryffindor name seems to have pretty much been decided (Kitty, are you ok with Godric's Hollow? I think you posted your opinion sometime a while back but I can't remember). Ravenclaw's has been decided too. Now we just need Hufflepuff and Slytherin.
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:24 am
I sent a PM to Junimaia and b e a r - c h o o asking them to come and check out this discussion about the RA's for their opinions. Hopefully we can finish this discussion soon, so maybe we can start during the next term.
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