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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:47 pm


I'm taking Mandarin Chinese at my school next year. I'm really excited. whee
I was wondering, could anyone here teach me some basics? Either by PM or AIM, or anything. I'd love to learn some dynamics and phrases. =)
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:07 pm


I wish I knew Chinese. I don't care what dialect. I just wish I could speak another language! crying I can read a lot of traditional characters since I'm learning Japanese and they haven't changed it.

If someone can teach me grammar I can read anything that's written. Only in traditonal Chinese though. I still have to learn some simplified. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:13 pm


Actually, Japanese is inconsistent with which Chinese characters it uses as kanji; some are traditional and some are simplified.

You might be better off learning simplified, as it is (in my opinion, and in the opinion of my last Chinese professor) easier to read traditional characters if you know simplified than simplified if you know traditional.

As for the grammar, you'll find it's very similar to English, only with some quirks, and probably easy for you to learn. It's different from Japanese grammar. And if you only know Japanese kanji, you're going to have to learn more Chinese characters to be able to read Chinese, as they're not ALL used as kanji. But knowing kanji will definitely help.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:36 pm


Dave
Actually, Japanese is inconsistent with which Chinese characters it uses as kanji; some are traditional and some are simplified.

You might be better off learning simplified, as it is (in my opinion, and in the opinion of my last Chinese professor) easier to read traditional characters if you know simplified than simplified if you know traditional.

As for the grammar, you'll find it's very similar to English, only with some quirks, and probably easy for you to learn. It's different from Japanese grammar. And if you only know Japanese kanji, you're going to have to learn more Chinese characters to be able to read Chinese, as they're not ALL used as kanji. But knowing kanji will definitely help.

I've got a book on Japanese kanji and one on Chinese kanji and a lot of them are a the same, even when the Chinese one shows the traditional characters. Japanese uses traditional Chinese kanji so those are the only ones I will be able to read at the present time.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:54 pm


For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Japanese_Kanji

Most kanji do come from the traditional Chinese characters, but as you can see, some of them are either based on the simplified characters (学 is a good example), or are just different altogether, i.e. "invented" by the Japanese.

If you want, I could teach you some basic Chinese vocabulary, expressions, etc. via PMs. I can't help you with the pronunciation, though, aside from writing it out in pinyin. confused
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:42 pm


Dave
For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Japanese_Kanji

Most kanji do come from the traditional Chinese characters, but as you can see, some of them are either based on the simplified characters (学 is a good example), or are just different altogether, i.e. "invented" by the Japanese.

If you want, I could teach you some basic Chinese vocabulary, expressions, etc. via PMs. I can't help you with the pronunciation, though, aside from writing it out in pinyin. confused

Even so, I don't need much help with anything written in a lot of languages. Learning kanji will be easy for me.

That would be nice, if you don't mind.

There's actually not that many that are different in Traditional Chinese and Japanese kanji. Aiko san is teaching in the JSG and she showed what kanji were different. There were very few.

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Anonymous Howard

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:51 am


你好,
我要学习中文 (我女朋友是中国人), 所以我要和native speaker聊天。 如果你要和我说, 你能给我发PM还是在msn廖天 (我的用户名是freezedrieddemon@hotmail.com)。

Sorry if there are any mistakes in the above sentence. What I'm trying to say is that I'm currently trying to learn Chinese, so it would be great if I could chat to a native speaker either through PMs or on MSN. Talking to other students would be great too, so we can learn together smile I've studied a little bit, but the sentence I wrote before is about my limit, so I really need to improve my language skills.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:56 am


Hey, I understood nearly all of that! biggrin

Dave


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:41 pm


Anonymous Howard
你好,
我要学习中文 (我女朋友是中国人), 所以我要和native speaker聊天。 如果你要和我说, 你能给我发PM还是在msn廖天 (我的用户名是freezedrieddemon@hotmail.com)。

Sorry if there are any mistakes in the above sentence. What I'm trying to say is that I'm currently trying to learn Chinese, so it would be great if I could chat to a native speaker either through PMs or on MSN. Talking to other students would be great too, so we can learn together smile I've studied a little bit, but the sentence I wrote before is about my limit, so I really need to improve my language skills.

I can only see one little mistake, instead of 如果你要和我说, I would say 如果你要和我谈.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:51 pm


The MoUsY spell-checker
Lawrencew
To someone else: Written chinese is NOT the same everywhere. Sometimes, in Hong Kong, they write the same way as they speak. I'm not sure if this is true for anywhere else.

Eg.
我 是 你 的 哥哥 = normal written chinese
我 係 你 個 大老 = spoken chinese (although 哥哥 could be used in either)

So... yeah.

再見!


Shouldn't it be 大"佬"?


It should. I could have sworn I did put 佬...

Lawrencew
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:12 am


Nî hào!

Wǒ jiào Jasmine. sweatdrop sorry I just long to speak in mandarin. I haven't spoken in Mandarin in 4 years. Anyone who wants to chat to me in mandarin go for your life.

Zàijiàn
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:41 pm


你好 Jasmine! 你怎么样?

(in case you can't read characters: Nǐ hǎo, Jasmine! Nǐ zěnmeyàng?)

Dave


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:02 am


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I'm learning Mandarin in school and it rocks! I don't like the way my instructor teaches but I'm really stoked on learning the language. domokun

What programs do you guys use to write Chinese? I was looking at NJStar but it's unfortunately not a free program. Can anyone suggest some freeware that can help me type the characters on the computer?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:50 pm


I just use the Chinese input for the language bar that comes with Windows XP.

很有用。 (It's very useful). ninja

Dave


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:26 am


You can write Chinese characters with just Windows XP? SWEET!! Where do you go to use it? User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.
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