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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:52 am
Befores I say anything don't worry I am not doing anything stupid but...I doubt anybody has noticed in the last week or so but I haven't been posting in the guild...
But the reason is becuase I lost one of my good friends to Suicide a few days ago...a day after that another friend of mine was put into the hospital becuase she tried too...Both of there reasons had to deal with bad boyfriends, and mainly becuase they were both overweight and made fun of. If I ever see their boyfriends...I am not sure what I would do. I just thought I would share that with everyone here.
Have you ever thought about Suicide? Does being overweight depress you or make you think about doing that? Share you storys about this, if we can talk about it maybe we can help prevent one person from doing something like this, saveing one life is well worth it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:55 pm
God...Suicide... I'm Hearing That Word More And More As It Draws Near Tomarrow. Because My Father Died On July30.2001...Four Years Now. Being Fat Doesnt Cause My Depression... But It Always Adds On To It. Last Night Was When I Truely Started Crying... Just To The Fact...My Father Died... I Found My Friend Hanging In Her Bed Room. I'm Ugly. I'm Fat. I Failed The Seventh Grade... I Should Be Going To Highschool... But I'm Being Torn Apart From The People I Love Most.
Being Fat Has Very Little To Do With "My" Depression... But Trust Me...It Just Makes Things Worse... If I Were Skinnier...Id Feel Better...A Little... But It Wouldnt Make True Pain Go Away... If You'd Like To Know Why I'm Feeling So Sad Lately and Not Posting... Read My Journal Entry.
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:43 pm
Oh Neko *hugs gently*..I am so sorry to hear about your friends. I am so saddened that they felt that they were made to feel worthless by ignorant assholes...that's not ******** right.
I used to think of commiting suicide when I was in highschool...thankfully I realized that things weren't as bad as I thought they were. I may not be happy with my figure at the current moment, but I would never want to end my life because of it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:00 pm
thankfully I have never thought of suicide, only cause I am pretty happy with my life, enough so that I would never do that.......but believe me many a time I have wished I had different stuff in life, you know the usuall *I wish I were skinny cause clothing this size sucks and I do not look good fat* *wish we had more money cause my car needs a new tranny but we have enough trouble paying for our new car* urrrgg......things like this depress me all the time, but what gets me through it is listening to good upbeat music, or just music that you love...or I think of they guys I have crushes on....then I am not depressed anymore sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:01 pm
well I have thought about suicide before...It just really hit me today that I will never see her again or hug her or see her smile or see her blue eyes. I just...miss her, I have been to way too many funurals in my life...I think over 11 now..12 this next thursday...
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:54 am
My younger sister tried to commit suicide once. I didn't say anything when she came to me about being sad all the time, with her thoughts of death. I shrugged it off as normal teenage angst. I was wrong.
She ended up in the hospital, psychiatric ward for a couple of weeks. I wish I had said something to my parents, but I didn't. My other sister Heather was the one who said something, and thankfully she didn't get a chance to go through what she was planning.
Hers was triggered by not having enough seretonin in the brain. However, that's not always the case. Life brings us down, and it can be for any number of reasons.
Suicide is so high among teenagers, not necessarily because they want to end their life, they want to be in control of it. Middle school and High school is a stressful time, because peers who also have little control over the happenings in their own life, can see the flaws of others. If someone is more flawed, then that means they're a step above them.
In that I mean that, they know death is forever, but they don't see it as permenant. It can be a mistake, granted a hefty one, when it's successful. It's also a serious cry for help.
It's why it's important to not let you get it down. You have to look at the positives, though they may seem few, in your own life. You also have to think about the people who's lives you affect by doing something like that. People who love you will never get to see you, laugh with you, and just enjoy the happiness you bring into their lives.
You never have a chance to make a difference, or set an example for someone else if you take your life. 5 or 10 years is small in comparison to a a human life... so if you only give yourself 15 years... you're not giving yourself time you reach or potential... to be in a position to help others who might be in the same seemingly hopeless point in their life, even just 5 years from now.
And you cannot place blame on others for what happened. They chose to do what they did. Noone forced them. It's hard to swallow something like that... but it was their choice and it's possible noone could have talked them out of it.
What it boils down to... everyone is their own person. You have to live life for yourself, you cannot live it for someone else. There is no half to make a person whole. A person who loves you will compliment the best things about yourself because they can bring out what is beautiful in you. It was already there though. Noone can be happy with someone else if they are not happy with themselves. So it's better to work on one's self, strive to improve and be who and what you want, so you can live and love life to it's fullest.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:50 am
Anybody read All the Myriad Ways by Larry Niven?
Its a short story about a world were technology allows you to travel to alernate Earths that could have been, sort of like going sideways in time. Its kind of like that one Jet Li movie The One, expect less crappy. Evenully this leads to mass sudice because people realize there will always be a "them" that is either better or worse off in a different part of time.
For some reason when I get depressed I always think of this story and get the creepy feeling that I am one of the few "me's" that hasn't commited sucide yet and its my duty to just tough things out.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:57 am
Obach Stove Anybody read All the Myriad Ways by Larry Niven? Its a short story about a world were technology allows you to travel to alernate Earths that could have been, sort of like going sideways in time. Its kind of like that one Jet Li movie The One, expect less crappy. Evenully this leads to mass sudice because people realize there will always be a "them" that is either better or worse off in a different part of time. For some reason when I get depressed I always think of this story and get the creepy feeling that I am one of the few "me's" that hasn't commited sucide yet and its my duty to just tough things out. That's a very interesting way of seeing things 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:13 am
I think about suicide a lot. I even tried a couple of times and never died. It's not a good thing. you are always looked down apon after trying to kill your self.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:30 pm
Tessiebean Obach Stove Anybody read All the Myriad Ways by Larry Niven? Its a short story about a world were technology allows you to travel to alernate Earths that could have been, sort of like going sideways in time. Its kind of like that one Jet Li movie The One, expect less crappy. Evenully this leads to mass sudice because people realize there will always be a "them" that is either better or worse off in a different part of time. For some reason when I get depressed I always think of this story and get the creepy feeling that I am one of the few "me's" that hasn't commited sucide yet and its my duty to just tough things out. That's a very interesting way of seeing things 3nodding very much so. i would like to read this now. i hate the subject of suicide because its a touchy one for me. between 7th and 9th grade i tried killing my self multiple times, electricity, pills, knifes, forks, spoons (im not kidding), trains, falling. everything but hanging. then one day i just woke up and realized how foolish it was to get rid of myself just because of all the crap that was being delt to me. the my last year of highschool i heard of 10 suicides in a 4 month period over our entire district. the last concert i went to, my friends band played a show to the guitarists best friend who hung himself after a rough fight with his dad. its a sad thing, but it really aggrivates me that can find no other alternative. Its a waste.... and ill stop now before i start getting angry over the subject.
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:09 am
Tessiebean Obach Stove Anybody read All the Myriad Ways by Larry Niven? Its a short story about a world were technology allows you to travel to alernate Earths that could have been, sort of like going sideways in time. Its kind of like that one Jet Li movie The One, expect less crappy. Evenully this leads to mass sudice because people realize there will always be a "them" that is either better or worse off in a different part of time. For some reason when I get depressed I always think of this story and get the creepy feeling that I am one of the few "me's" that hasn't commited sucide yet and its my duty to just tough things out. That's a very interesting way of seeing things 3nodding ^_^ i like that view... the expanse of time between the 6th and the 10th grade was horrible for me. i moved halfway through the 6th grade, and was basically hated because i was smart and quiet. i didnt beg the "popular" people to be their friends, so they tried to pick on me and what not. i dont think i ever attempted suicide, i just remember that when my mom would go to work,(she often worked until late at night) i'd take really long, depressing walks on the bridge over the Savannah River. most of the time the only things that would keep me from jumping were my little brother and mom, the fact that even though she was halfway through her 30's, had 4 kids and three marraiges, she still had the gumption to go BACK to school and get her master's degree, just to make a better life for her children. when she put me in counceling for depression it nearly tore her apart.(hell, i probably still need the counceling, but it hurt mom too much for me to keep going)
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:52 am
first things first. Neko, I'm sorry you had to live through that, I know how hard it can be to deal with. I lost my uncle to suicide my freshman year of highschool. So if you ever wanna talk about it, I'm here for ya.
As far as thinking about the whole suicide thing. yeah I've thought about it, quite a lot at one point in my life. But knowing how selfish of a way out it is and how much it would truly hurt everyone is what has always stopped me. And it was all because I thought I was ugly and coujldn't get a gf (yeah I know it was stupid right there). But now I never think about it, I have no reason too. I've now had a relationship and what not. So I do know it's possible lol.
But I'm always willing to talk with people if they want to about a problem they have or to just listen.
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:48 pm
I'm the temporary captain of a suicide prevention guild that I helped create with Arrien. (And I'm sorry to say I've been sorely neglecting it.)
I've lost a total of four friends to suicide, and have attemted once when I was 16. Nearly succeeded. My strong liver, and the fact that I'm overweight saved me. (Funny, because that was part of the reason I even attempted. Hah. Hah.) Suicide and depression is a big deal to me. I'm not.. like that anymore, but I always feel guilty whenever I hear about it. So I do everything I can to prevent it. Or I did. It's a touchy soubject that gets me worked up easily. I could discuss it for hours. And when someone jokes about it, I kick their a**. I don't care who it is, I hunt them down and knock a few teeth out. Because it's ******** to mock something like that.
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:40 pm
I went through a suicidal period about 1 1/2 years ago.
It wasn't weight related(though I can say when I look at myself sometimes I just get all worked up and start shaking my brain around..even when I know at my weight I shouldn't be worrying about it -.- My BMI is in the high normal range)... it was about a girlfriend. I was obsessed with her and she never thought much of me and later on all things fell apart because I saw her as too much in my mind and kind of got mixed up in the head too much... I actually thought I was...well... unworthy... I thought about her constantly... and had bad mood swings in my privacy. As time went on it seemed like I could begin to feel her annoyance for me... and one day it just broke down when we had a fight and talked of the things that I did that bothered her... bleh... a week later after knowingly futile attempts I was taken out of school and hospitalized for a bit, taken out of school for the rest of the year, and went to a good student rehab program called PHP with a really sucky phycitrist.
uuuuhhhggg.... bad... bad times.... but I've improved much since then. a LOT... heh... and what makes me most happy... is that I can't tell when I take my meds or not. xd
Time heals all wounds but scars can still be left behind. Dispite my crazy actions my friends have accepted me back, and I have become much more social.
Bleh... sry if I misread the first post and it was only ment for weight gain related depression. But it just feels right when I should share it when asked. ^^;
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:51 pm
AlmsiviConner Time heals all wounds but scars can still be left behind. Ah how true. I've found that Time heals all wounds, but sometimes, Time just makes them worse. Some things hurt more as time goes on. At least, thats the case with some things with me. No matter how much I talk about them, and share then, and analyze them, the older I get, the more it hurts.
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