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karllikespies

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:19 pm


I was looking up abortion on google the other day to find out Norma McCorvey, who was jane roe in roe vs. wade is now pro-life. I just find it very strange that abortion heavily relies on the court case, yet the person who filed it never had an abortion and is fighting against it. Did anyone else know this?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:01 pm


I've known for several years that Norma McCorvey was pro-life.

I didn't know that she never had the abortion.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:17 pm


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I've known for several years that Norma McCorvey was pro-life.

I didn't know that she never had the abortion.

It was a legal ploy or something and they said she had to remain pregnant or something to that effect.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:28 pm


Beware the Jabberwock

It was a legal ploy or something and they said she had to remain pregnant or something to that effect.


...wha? That's weird...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:32 pm


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Beware the Jabberwock

It was a legal ploy or something and they said she had to remain pregnant or something to that effect.


...wha? That's weird...

It really was weird, I'll see if I can find what it was exactly.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:44 pm


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She was a pregnant 21-year-old woman with a 10th grade education ... too poor to get an illegal abortion in Texas, or a legal one in California. He was a physician whose practice was suffering because he could not perform legal abortions. Norma McCorvey, Dr. James Hallford, and John and Mary Doe, a married couple who could not bear children or take contraceptives due to health risks, were all ripe candidates for what was escalating into a nationwide cause celebre in 1970 - the right of a woman to have an abortion.

Considered one of the centers of the nation's Bible belt, Texas law forbid abortion except in the case where the life of the mother was threatened. McCorvey's plight, as well as that of the Doe's and Dr. Hallford, provided a stage for pro-abortionists to challenge the Texas courts. The testimonies of a physician, a poor young woman, and a childless couple were models for Planned Parenthood's case. What American would not be moved with sympathy by McCorvey's testimony of being raped by three men and a woman? Or a physician who wished to perform safe, legal abortions?

In March, 1970, McCorvey filed a lawsuit on behalf of herself and "all other women similarly situated," along with the Does and Dr. Hallford. Their case set the wheels in motion towards overruling the 100-year-old abortion law. Later the Doe's and Dr. Hallford's cases were dismissed for lack of standing. The court also threw out McCorvey's case and reaffirmed the Texas state law.

In the meantime, McCorvey had given birth to her child and put the baby up for adoption. She was forced to give birth, according to court records, because of the length of the court case and the decision-making process. Ironically, today a 16-year-old child who was a candidate for the first legal abortion in Texas is now living, while millions of others have died because of the consequences of that decision.

That's all that I could find, the other source must have been wrong. I'll look more but I really don't remember where I read it. o_O

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karllikespies

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:27 pm


I just find it particurally funny when pro-choice demonstrators hold signs that say "save roe", roe herself is on the other side.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:01 pm


Known it for quite some time, but a lot of people do that. Some of the biggest prolife advocates were once adamently prochoice. Live and learn, I guess.

Those signs never made sense to me. How do you save Roe? Her abortion rights aren't being questioned, unless she's 56 years old and still popping out babies like there's no tomorrow. I suppose it's possible...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:04 pm


Have some irony it’s good for your blood. I wonder how much this discredit’s the pro-choice case? What do they say when you point out that she is now pro-life?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:04 pm


I like how, as with pro-choice logic seems to dictate, the case was around her getting an abortion caused by RAPE, and somehow it turned into "Well if rape abortion is ok, then ALL abortion must be ok!"

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:11 pm


I wonder if the baby she give up for adopt knows and if they do what do they think about it?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:09 pm


Fact is, it does nothing to their case. The case's decision wasn't about that one woman, it was about women in general and their access to abortion.

It was over a rape pregnancy, but this wasn't the only case, don't forget. At the time, there were other cases before the courts about just plain ordinary elective abortions. Public opinion was moving this way.

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rweghrheh

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:26 pm


I never got the whole Roe vs. Wade and how it ties into abortion rights.

Didn't it have to do with one refusing to donate bone marrow or something?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:42 pm


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I never got the whole Roe vs. Wade and how it ties into abortion rights.

Didn't it have to do with one refusing to donate bone marrow or something?
No, you're thinking of McFall v. Shimp. Which, actually, doesn't have anything to do with abortion beyond the bodily integrity debate.

Roe v. Wade involved a girl, called Jane Roe, who was pregnant as a result of rape. Her case made it up to the Supreme Court, and the decision made it so that it was no longer a state's right to ban abortion. Abortion was legal in several states, but this decision made it so that it was legal in all states during the first trimester, with the second and third trimester laws up to the states, but there were restrictions in the third trimester.

It is a ruling that is disputed by not only pro-life people, but some pro-choice people as well, due to several factors. It's not that the end result was unfavorable to people who want abortion available, but the way they went about it is criticized.

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YellowRoses610

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:44 pm


What way did they go about it?
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