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Aniur

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:38 pm



We're back in business! Let's get some rping done.


We're open with 0 spots at the moment. Feel free to apply to join through pm. :3
All old students must reapply to rejoin.


Attention: We are FULL for the time being. Anyone who posts who is not a student will have their post removed. If you wish to be put on a waiting list for the next open spot, PM me with the title: Waiting List.
Thank you.



Wait List:


Attention Students!:
There is now an Out of Character thread for all your chatter. Please post anything Non Character there. This is an In Character thread only now.



Garden Shrine: Role Playing training grounds for lower levels

Welcome to the Garden Shrine,
here we will focus on proper grammar and description technique in posting replies to a role playing thread. Your posts will be looked over and critiqued when I have a spare moment. You may ask questions, comment or post concerns in both your post and after looking over your evaluation. This is not a rapid fire post thread, please do not post a second time unless your first post has already been evaluated. I do work, so this may be anywhere from a few hours to a few days depending on if there are people waiting ahead of you.

I encourage you to interact with each other in your posts since the only way you can truly learn is by doing. If no one else is in the thread besides myself at the time, interact with me or the environment.


Instructions/rules:

1. Post an introductory post and wait for my critique. As stated above you may post questions, comments and inquires. I would rather you post them in your actual post so others can benefit from the answer that I give If you really don't wish to ask in front of everyone else, pm me.

2. Interact with others and the environment, but unless in agreement with the other person do not attack.

3. Please don't whine about how I'm taking so long, I'm an adult, I have a life. Get over it. I like putting some effort into my answers so at times it does take a while.

4. Please use the following sites, they will help you greatly.
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5. Please remember, don't do anything that would get any of us in trouble.

6. After more than five days away with no word, you will be listed as MIA. If you say something, anything, you will be noted as On Leave and your spot will not be taken. After 10 days with no word your spot will be open to others.

7. No Out of Character posting in this thread. If I can't grade it, it shouldn't be here. For you Out of Character pleasure, there is an Out of Character thread. Please use this.

Warning: if you do not follow the above instructions I do reserve the right to delete or have your posts deleted.


Current students
Here is a list of students and the skill level I judge them to be. The skill levels are as follows: Beginner, Novice, Competent, Advanced. Each level has three steps to it, Low, Med, and High. These rankings are just a reminder to me of what stage you are at and the amount and type of work needed to be done to your posts. You of course won't always stay these levels so I wouldn't worry about them at all. You are listed in the order you started posting.

1-Aeros Endeem
Skill: Advanced, Low

2-


3-Omirao
Skill: Advanced, Low

4-Squireof the son
Skill: Advanced, Low

5-SklineRunner

6-Gamma

7-Oniko

8-Anima
Skill: Advanced, Med

9-Lord-Miles

Graduates:

LadyFireCat
Deugaro
Takamura Kobayashi





::At the end of a long winding dirt path, flanked on either side by trees in full bloom with the leaves of summer, sits a moderately sized abbey surrounded by a great stone wall. Known by the locals as 'The Garden Shrine' due to the large field of flowers encompassed by its enclosure, at first glance it seems rather unassuming to the casual observer. Upon closer look a person can tell while appearing rather run down with ivy growing over its sun bleached walls, it is in current use and repair. Practice dummies litter the court yard, animals occupy the barn and people can be seen going about their business, what ever that might be.

As you stand near the entrance, pushing your face against the metal bars that make up a fairly sturdy gate, you note that the shrine stands three stories tall. Just ahead of you is the courtyard, full of weapons racks, practice dummies made of straw to drill on and a makeshift arrow range. Behind that lies the abbey itself, veiled in a beautiful summer ivy. There is a tower to the right, only accessible by the second floor and the arched walk way that leads from the main building. Through the shade of the curved walkway you can just barely make out that fabled field of flowers. To the right there is a small graveyard, a few worn headstones dotting the earth.

A young woman in her early twenties appears before you. She has cool blue eyes and long blond hair. Her face is graced with high cheek bones and a delicate structure. Leaning forward slightly, her hand on the hilt of her sword currently sheathed, she gives you a once look over then pivots to the side, gesturing to the abbey.::


Hopefully you have found what it is exactly you are looking for. What lies ahead of you is a school of discipline and learning. If you do not wish either of these, I strongly suggest you turn back. Knowledge is neither a kind nor patient mistress and neither am I when provoked.

::Quietly she turns away from you, quite the feat considering the amount of armor she has on. You expect a sound akin to tin cans rattling and are rewarded with nothing but the soft whisper of the wind.::

The sleeping quarters are on the second floor, a grand library full of ancient texts on the third. Stair cases are located at either end of the shrine. The kitchen is to the back. Dinner is at 6 prompt. Please do not be late.

::With that she walks off to another part of the chantry, leaving you to explore at your own will. You notice that the gate you had been leaning against is now open. Slowly you push it open and enter the compound.::


Interaction note:
The second floor sleeping quarters as it was put are a row of beds. There are two wash rooms on either of the first two floors and one on the third. Washrooms consist of a small room with a mirror, stand, basin on the stand to put fresh water in and a stack of towels. The third floor is an extensive library with rows of moth eaten books in dusty shelves. The topics of these books range from history to philosophy. Most are very fragile, so pay mind to handle them gently.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:30 pm


Raoden looked around in awe. He had never seen a place such as this before. The beautiful scenery was breathtaking. There were trees and flowers blooming everywhere, and though the building looked old, it still had its own special charm. He slowly walked through the grounds, taking in as much of his new surroundings as possible. Although there were many people bustling about, Raoden didn't feel even a bit nervous. After he had passed through the great, heavy wooden door he quickly found and walked up the stairs, eager to see where he would be sleeping.

Omirao

Devoted Friend


hyrdatas

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:47 pm


Chandler looked around at nothing in particular, musing on what to do next. She was tired from the trip to find this place, the field of flowers was irritating her eyes, and she wanted nothing more than to retire to the sleeping quarters. At the same time however, she wanted to be accquainted with her surroundings. Chandler knew from past experiences that getting lost in such an immense place would probably lead to a disasterous outcome. In this case, it would probably end with the strict lady not letting her have dinner. Chandler cringed at the thought.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:32 pm


Karieda
Raoden looked around in awe. He had never seen a place such as this before. The beautiful scenery was breathtaking. There were trees and flowers blooming everywhere, and though the building looked old, it still had its own special charm. He slowly walked through the grounds, taking in as much of his new surroundings as possible. Although there were many people bustling about, Raoden didn't feel even a bit nervous. After he had passed through the great, heavy wooden door he quickly found and walked up the stairs, eager to see where he would be sleeping.


Very good.
Quote:
He slowly walked through the grounds, taking in as much of his new surroundings as possible.

This is a very good solid sentence. Its clear and to the point, but gives the readers a very clear image of whats happening. Here you are in a new surrounding processing the things around you. Good. This last section is as well.
Quote:
Although there were many people bustling about, Raoden didn't feel even a bit nervous. After he had passed through the great, heavy wooden door he quickly found and walked up the stairs, eager to see where he would be sleeping.

The first calls back to a pre existing character condition that you had informed me of prior (you should put that in his bio, the whole nervous thing) and the second is brilliant. You take into account that this is an abbey, a rather old place made of stone and thus probably would have huge wooden doors. You call attention to that then gave yourself a lead in to perhaps what your next post would be about, mainly exploring the second floor.

Now the issues, small, but its good to get past them.
You start out with three short sentences. When writing you want to give your reader variety. It helps steel against boredom and also helps the paragraph flow better. They aren't bad sentences by any means, just perhaps weak in that order.

Also, you kinda just blew into the area with no explanation.
Where are you from?
How far did you travel?
What are you wearing? What do you look like?
When did you arrive? (what time of day)
Who are you? Everyone else besides me that might come in here knows nothing about you. You should find a way to convey the personality of your character in your post.
You did a good of explaining your character's state of mind, but what about the physical? Images are poor excuse for the picture you can paint in your reader's minds.

Id like to see you answer some of these questions in detail in your next post. Work it in, make it flow as if those items belong there.

Continue on. This is good work. Just in the day you've visibly improved. We'll deal with any other issues as they come about.

Aniur


Aniur

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:46 pm


::A slight breeze blows past, carrying a stray strand of hair across her face and into her eyes. With a slow, but deliberate movement, Aniur brushes her index and pointer fingers across her brow, affixing the rouge hair back in place. Twilight had to be her favorite time of day. It was a time when things grew quiet and serene, when she could stop and reflect upon the day's activities.
Removing her sword from its worn leather scabbard, she spins it back around with her right hand, rotating it about the hilt. In this swift motion, the blade lay flat against her back, pointing towards the heavens. She then brings it back down and around under her arm in a perfectly timed arch that ends with the hilt several inches above her line of sight, both hands grasping. Then with one fluid action, she thrusts the blade into the ground and kneels beside it. This display of brand artistry was mostly for herself rather than anyone else. It was in dedication to her twin goddesses. With that act every night in the field, she reaffirmed her faith and oath to bring balance where ever she might travel.
Giving a small nod of satisfaction, she pulls her sword out of the ground and wipes it clean with her blue muslin over dress. The twilight was long through and now it gave way to a brilliant star filled night.::

Early to bed and early to rise they say, and all that rubbish...

::Rolling her eyes, she replaces her blade and starts her short walk back towards the abbey.::
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:30 pm


Death_Dearest
Chandler looked around at nothing in particular, musing on what to do next. She was tired from the trip to find this place, the field of flowers was irritating her eyes, and she wanted nothing more than to retire to the sleeping quarters. At the same time however, she wanted to be accquainted with her surroundings. Chandler knew from past experiences that getting lost in such an immense place would probably lead to a disasterous outcome. In this case, it would probably end with the strict lady not letting her have dinner. Chandler cringed at the thought.


You said in your thread that you were totally new to the whole rping bit. First of all, you have a good base to start with and are about at par with the other person Karieda that I am helping out in this thread.

Your character seems to have some good personality, but you fail to answer a few key questions.

What do you look like? Physical appearance is important, it helps people interact with you, notice you.
You mentioned that you had traveled far with this destination in mind, but where did you come from?
What is that past experience that you are referring to? Did you get lost and left behind somewhere in your past? This is optional information, but it would be interesting to know.

I also need a pm from you perhaps telling me what you want to get out of this. Some sort of goal. If you just want to do semi literate, then you probably don't need too much work and could go about just as you are.

Aniur


Omirao

Devoted Friend

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:43 am


((Do they have dorms? Is there some form of uniforms the people in the abby grounds are already wearing? What is the abby a school for? Are we allowed to have 'special' abilities?))

Raoden looked avidly around as he walked through the halls on the second floor. His old home had nothing on this place. He stared at the simple, but beautiful and obviously more expensive than he could afford, vases on the small side tables next to the walls in the medium-wide hallways. He blushed when he thought of the cheap and plain cotton shirt and trousers he was wearing. He was lucky to even have those. Raoden sighed longingly. Would he ever be able to afford something better? He looked down at his dusty, dirt-caked, travel worn boots and started, looking at the carpeted floor behind him. He'd left a trail of dirt leading up from the front door! He turned around and trudged quickly back the way he'd come. I'll just clean my boots, then ask around for a way to clean the floors. he thought guiltily.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:07 am


Karieda
((Do they have dorms? Is there some form of uniforms the people in the abby grounds are already wearing? What is the abby a school for? Are we allowed to have 'special' abilities?))



ab·bey
1. a monastery under the supervision of an abbot or a convent under the supervision of an abbess.
2. the group of buildings comprising such a monastery or convent.

mon·as·ter·y
1. a house or place of residence occupied by a community of persons, esp. monks, living in seclusion under religious vows.

Given this definition you should expect the place to be rather bare. Architecture might be extravagant, but in general things are going to be plain. I mentioned that sleeping quarters where on the second floor. Thank you for pointing out that perhaps I should have alluded more to what they consist of, Ill change that right away. Most people in the area are going to be servants of God and thus will also be in plain clothing. You may wear whatever you wish. I will add a library full of dusty old books on the third floor, but past that most of the learning you would do in such a place is self guided unless you seek someone out. I have presented you with Aniur so that you might ask her fighting techniques. You may also create an npc and interact with it in order to learn about a god you might make up, or history of the area. I left everything pretty open for a reason. First, there isn't much for you to miss and second you have a variety of interaction options open to you. You may create special abilities if you wish to practice in that type of rping because of that openness.

Very good questions though. :3 You're really thinking about the state of your character and how he fits in to everything. *laughs* This also brings up another important point though. Always be willing to change your original settings post. Sometimes you have things in mind and forget to post them if you happen to be in a rush. Never be ashamed to change or add things based on what people are asking. Of course, sometimes we post at 3 in the morning and we'd lose our heads if they weren't firmly attached to our heads. Not the problem in this case, just carelessness.

Aniur


Aeros Endeem

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:52 am


Aurak Endeem, knowing that he, a Dragon-Kin, had never been to an Abbey before, walks in slowly and starts to look around.... taking in the enviornment around him... he walks up to a dummy and pokes it... a couple peices of straw fall out and hit the ground by his feet...
Aurak stepped away from the dummy and walked to these large, wooden doors... Although there were people hustling about, they didnt seem to notice a large Dragon-kin walking around in a monastary... so he thought it was normal to see one once in a while around here... he looks at the doors and pushes them open...and went a set of stairs on the right side, looking for the sleeping quarters on the second floor...
I wonder if this is one of these places where they seperate the sexes for each side... if they do, i hope im on the right side...
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:48 am


Karieda

Raoden looked avidly around as he walked through the halls on the second floor. His old home had nothing on this place. He stared at the simple, but beautiful and obviously more expensive than he could afford, vases on the small side tables next to the walls in the medium-wide hallways. He blushed when he thought of the cheap and plain cotton shirt and trousers he was wearing. He was lucky to even have those. Raoden sighed longingly. Would he ever be able to afford something better? He looked down at his dusty, dirt-caked, travel worn boots and started, looking at the carpeted floor behind him. He'd left a trail of dirt leading up from the front door! He turned around and trudged quickly back the way he'd come. I'll just clean my boots, then ask around for a way to clean the floors. he thought guiltily.



On the surface this is a strong post. Its probably the best I've seen you do so far and is excellent to see. :3 Few little problems to clear up though.

Rambling:
You have some good visual things going on here, but its very jumbled. I feel like you're pulling 10 ways at once when you mean to pull one way and then another. How about this, first talk about the vases themselves. Get your visual point across. Then slide in after that how it pertains to your character.


Quote:
He stared at the simple, but beautiful and obviously more expensive than he could afford, vases on the small side tables next to the walls in the medium-wide hallways.


Could become

Quote:
He stared at the simple vases on the small side tables next to the walls as he walked down the medium wide hallways. They were beautiful, but obviously more expensive than he could afford.


I used just about everything you had in that sentence, just in a different order. One other thing about this. You should state that he is walking/walked down the hallways or you can cut out the walking part and just keep one singular hallway. It helps solidify what your character is doing. If you are standing still at a cross ways for the halls, then you should say so.

Quote:
He blushed when he thought of the cheap and plain cotton shirt and trousers he was wearing.


Another good sentence, you can strike that first and in place of a comma though. Both cheap and plain are descriptive words.

Quote:
The cheap, plain cotton shirt.


Otherwise, good.

And

Quote:
He looked down at his dusty, dirt-caked, travel worn boots and started, looking at the carpeted floor behind him.


Here I will assume you meant stared and just added a 't' on accident. Not the main problem. You use looked twice when you don't really need to.


Quote:
He looked down at his dusty, dirt-cakes, travel worn boots, then behind him at the carpeted floor and stared.


Again using your own words just in a different order. I would like a comment from you on this. Does this portray what you wanted to say correctly? Or do you have something better in mind? :3 Good job though over all. You just had some very small issues to clean up. Your ability to use what I've already taught you is really shining through.

So, before you make your next post please answer these questions, ask a few and then we can get on with it.

Also, do you think you're getting out of this what you were looking for?

Aniur


Aniur

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:41 pm


Aeros Endeem
Aurak Endeem, knowing that he, a Dragon-Kin, had never been to an Abbey before, walks in slowly and starts to look around.... taking in the enviornment around him... he walks up to a dummy and pokes it... a couple peices of straw fall out and hit the ground by his feet...
Aurak stepped away from the dummy and walked to these large, wooden doors... Although there were people hustling about, they didnt seem to notice a large Dragon-kin walking around in a monastary... so he thought it was normal to see one once in a while around here... he looks at the doors and pushes them open...and went a set of stairs on the right side, looking for the sleeping quarters on the second floor...
I wonder if this is one of these places where they seperate the sexes for each side... if they do, i hope im on the right side...


Oh my dear, you suffer from what we like to call, Run-on-sentence-itis. It can be cured with removal of the ever popular '...' and replacing with a period. Well, thats the short cure. There are a few other things we have to address as well.

A little grammar lesson in the use of '...' or better known as ellipsis. Normally ellipsis are used to omit things. Here you use them in place of periods. This makes it sound like all your thoughts are trailing off into nothingness. Like you have something more to say, but refuse to say it.


definition

Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from Greek ἔλλειψις 'omission') in printing and writing refers to the row of three full stops (... or . . . ) or asterisks (* * *) indicating an intentional omission. This punctuation mark is also called a suspension point, points of ellipsis, periods of ellipsis, or colloquially, dot-dot-dot. An ellipsis is sometimes used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence (aposiopesis). Wiki Definition Link


Generally a good rule of thumb is to save ellipsis for thought or speech. It will properly convey that you are trailing off a thought you don't wish to finish, either saving it for later or being mysterious like.

So, first thing is first. Before we fix anything else, you have to give me proper sentences to work with. In your next post, do away with your lovely '...' and then we'll tackle the hard stuff. I want real sentences here with a defined beginning and end.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:23 pm


((When I said 'started', I meant it as 'he was startled'. Only I used it so that 'startled' was the verb instead of 'was'... He hadn't expected to leave a mess, and velt guilty of it, thus showing that he would make a very good 'housewife', so to speak. And as for my RPing, I'm getting better now that I know what I was doing wrong, and how to fix it, but I still need practice.))

Raoden had discovered where the cleaning supplies were kept from one of the stable boys. Actually, the boy had lent him his. He hurriedly procceded to clean himself up, then cleaned the floors he'd tracked dirt onto. After he'd returned the cleaning tools to the boy he ran back up the stairs, dumped his pack on the bed nearest the doorway, and ran back down the stairs to the kitchen, hoping he wasn't late. What time had she said dinner was at? He was in such a big rush and was so nervous that he didn't spare much thought for his surroundings. He was now starting to run out of breath.

Omirao

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:50 pm


Aniur

So, first thing is first. Before we fix anything else, you have to give me proper sentences to work with. In your next post, do away with your lovely '...' and then we'll tackle the hard stuff. I want real sentences here with a defined beginning and end.

((Oh okay... that is like a bad habit.))

Aurak wasnt sure of the whole placement of the sleep quarters were, so he walked back downstairs with his things and tries to find someone that may know. Luckily he comes across a Monk, who just happens to walk by.
"Excuse me, Sir?" He calls out to him.
"Do you know if this place seperates the sleeping quarters by sexes?"
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:10 am


Omirao
((When I said 'started', I meant it as 'he was startled'. Only I used it so that 'startled' was the verb instead of 'was'... He hadn't expected to leave a mess, and velt guilty of it, thus showing that he would make a very good 'housewife', so to speak. And as for my RPing, I'm getting better now that I know what I was doing wrong, and how to fix it, but I still need practice.))


:3
Okay. I think because we've broken this over use of was you can go back to using it in certain cases. This would have been a case that you could have used it. If that was the case though, this would have flown better:


Quote:
He looked down at his dusty, dirt-caked, travel worn boots and was started. Looking at the carpeted floor behind him, he noticed he'd left a trail of dirt leading up from the front door!


Note that this is near the end of the sentence that you're using was. In this case, you were doing another action then mentioned a state of being, so lets expand your use of the word was. You have a new state of being, but you can't say he's being startled, in this case you can use was.


Quote:
Character A action +ed something and then was a state of being (hurt, startled, afraid, happy, sad).


The word then of course is optional. Very very good. I hadn't even thought of the word startled. This is why I love rping. So many different points of view all coming together. I love finding out what people are imagining.

And now on to your current post.


Omirao
Raoden had discovered where the cleaning supplies were kept from one of the stable boys. Actually, the boy had lent him his. He hurriedly procceded to clean himself up, then cleaned the floors he'd tracked dirt onto. After he'd returned the cleaning tools to the boy he ran back up the stairs, dumped his pack on the bed nearest the doorway, and ran back down the stairs to the kitchen, hoping he wasn't late. What time had she said dinner was at? He was in such a big rush and was so nervous that he didn't spare much thought for his surroundings. He was now starting to run out of breath.


You know, I like this post, a lot. If flows so well with the last one that you could have put the two together for one big post. Oh, one other thing about the post before this though, separate thoughts from your actions so people understand they're thoughts. Sometimes Italics isn't enough. Go ahead and post another, this last post has no huge blaring problems so I'm going to just let you pass on this one. :3

Aniur

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