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Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:13 am


mmmkay now, I'm going to be conducting research on evangelism for it to be more effective. Let me begin by saying a few things one of which is, I know alot of you people are like oh I don't want to push my beliefs( because your afraid of peoples wraith or some other reason) on others so instead you deciede to play it safe and just be their friend and hope that by just having a Christ like nature( having the fruit of the spirit mentioned in Galatians) around them might persuade them to convert. While this may be a good way to evangelize it may not always be the best way, and according to a site I once visited called way of the master, not quite the way Jesus would have done it. The way Jesus evangelized or at least how it appeared to me was that, he convicted people about theirs sins, he told them how awful they really were and yes it did hurt their feelings, but hey some of them did manage to stay with him, although he problably thoroughly offended them, now he wasn't always telling people they suck(which is truth, humans actually do suck as a whole) he also added in some wise saying like these Matthew 5:1-10 or even in so cases(problably to calm people down) that GOD is also a loving father.

So what I intend to do is find out does this short of evangelism work for everybody or just some people.

If you'd like give me experiences of you succesful evangelisms if any, where people ending up converting or at least responding (in some way) positively.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:03 am


I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!

elmon


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:58 pm


elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!
how is it wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:03 pm


does anybody else have any valuable experiences to add to conversation, please post soon.

Sir BlackHeart


elmon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:39 am


NewFoundLight
elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!
how is it wrong?

It was wrong because I wasn't given a choice. They sang all these songs about Jesus and God and I sang along. I was far too young to think rationally about it. That's why it's wrong. It was indoctrination!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:25 am


elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!
how is it wrong?

It was wrong because I wasn't given a choice. They sang all these songs about Jesus and God and I sang along. I was far too young to think rationally about it. That's why it's wrong. It was indoctrination!
tell me something at the time did you care that much about it? what I mean to say when you were a young child did it bother you as much as it did now.

Sir BlackHeart


elmon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:29 am


NewFoundLight
elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!
how is it wrong?

It was wrong because I wasn't given a choice. They sang all these songs about Jesus and God and I sang along. I was far too young to think rationally about it. That's why it's wrong. It was indoctrination!
tell me something at the time did you care that much about it? what I mean to say when you were a young child did it bother you as much as it did now.

I was young and easily manipulated. I didn't realized what they were up to, my parents did. Fortunately they prevented those people from evangelizing me. I don't know my feelings back then, but I saw what was being done to me when my parents explained.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:59 am


Moved to main forum at Light's request.

The_Mortician
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yankeefan72

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:10 am


elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!
how is it wrong?

It was wrong because I wasn't given a choice. They sang all these songs about Jesus and God and I sang along. I was far too young to think rationally about it. That's why it's wrong. It was indoctrination!
tell me something at the time did you care that much about it? what I mean to say when you were a young child did it bother you as much as it did now.

I was young and easily manipulated. I didn't realized what they were up to, my parents did. Fortunately they prevented those people from evangelizing me. I don't know my feelings back then, but I saw what was being done to me when my parents explained.

let me ask a question. If you are a small kid and you are in a burning building, should the firemen not save you because you dont know that you are being saved? Of course not. They like christians should try to save all people of all ages. And isnt it indoctrination to tell a small kid that God doesnt exist too?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:00 am


elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
NewFoundLight
elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!
how is it wrong?

It was wrong because I wasn't given a choice. They sang all these songs about Jesus and God and I sang along. I was far too young to think rationally about it. That's why it's wrong. It was indoctrination!
tell me something at the time did you care that much about it? what I mean to say when you were a young child did it bother you as much as it did now.

I was young and easily manipulated. I didn't realized what they were up to, my parents did. Fortunately they prevented those people from evangelizing me. I don't know my feelings back then, but I saw what was being done to me when my parents explained.
Okay, when you are just born, you don't know a thing about evolution. You go to school and they teach you evolution as a young kid. That, is also manipulation, because you're not given a choice on what you want to believe.

The_Mortician
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dragongirl42391

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:23 pm


elmon
I was nearly evangelized, when I was young, by the parents of a friend. I dislike them for it now. It is wrong! Beliefe what you will, but it's your business, not that of the rest of the world!


Elmon, I have seen your other posts in the guild, and you seem to be pretty proud that you are not a Christian and that you were "not evangelized." So I wonder....why are you here? I'm not trying to be condscending or rude or belittling to you (It so easy to misunderstood over the internet.), I just want to sincerely know why you joined this guild.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:32 pm


I agree with Light on his views on evangelism. And I strongly agree with "The Way of the Master." The book gives specific direction on a proper way to evangelize and share the Gospel based on Biblical and scriptural reference. It's sure to help, just as it helped me.


My friends and I evangelized to someone in the mall using the techniques of "The Way of the Master." At first, we asked the person (who was open to discussion) simple questions like, "Have you ever commited sin?" We then shared Bible verses like John 3:16. Lastly, we asked if the person would like to accept Jesus as their personal Saviour. By God's grace, the person openly agreed to accept Christ. So my friend and I led this person to the sinner's prayer. We were happy to see God working to save souls.

Atarashi No Sensei
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GuardianAngel44

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:55 pm


What happened to Elmon? I think he died. Thank God. wink
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:15 pm


ooooh, harsh man.

dragongirl42391


nippa!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:01 am


"the masters way" sounds really risky. I haven't tried it and im interested in how to evangelise but i don't think i'll try that one.

What if the person breaks and starts to self-hate but still doesn't accept God?

What if the person tells you that your not good either and that you should f*** off, and because of your attempts to break him stereotypes christians and puts up his guard when some other christian talks to him?

I use the word 'break' because that is basically what it is. Breaking them down and then using god to build them back up.
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