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Ksenia Sergeevina

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:23 pm


My teacher gave me this extra credit:
I was given the sentence, 'Women without her name is nothing.' I need to change the punctuation so the meaning of the sentence changes. So far I have two solutions. I need one more.

Women: without her, man is nothing.
Women, without her man, is nothing.

I will love you forever, , if you help me.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:03 pm


My teacher gave that one to me as well, only it was an in class assignment. You got it though. Its the first one you have.

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Ksenia Sergeevina

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:40 pm


There is at least one more. What you tell me what it is, if you everyday did it? It's not the first one, there no correct answer.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:33 pm


Hmm. Those are the only two I've ever heard.

The only other thing I can think of is "Woman without her name/man, is nothing." It doesn't really change the meaning much, it just changes it from a non-restrictive to a restrictive clause (or the other way around - I can never remember sweatdrop ). That may be what your teacher is looking for, though, because it is a grammatical difference.


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Ksenia Sergeevina

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:35 pm


That's not using punctuation.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:49 pm


Is it supposed to be using the word name, or the word man?

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Ksenia Sergeevina

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:43 am


It's man. Women, wither her, name is nothing; doesn't make sense.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:48 pm


Ksenia Sergeevina
That's not using punctuation.


It has a comma. Doesn't that count?


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Ksenia Sergeevina

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:32 pm


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Ksenia Sergeevina
That's not using punctuation.


It has a comma. Doesn't that count?

Only if it changes the sentence. The words themselves can't change.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:47 pm


I wouldn't have thought that it'd be 'women' and 'her', considering the fact that 'women' means more than one woman...and 'her' refers to the singular form, unless I'm not thinking straight...

But I do think that the first one sounds much more correct than the second.

"Woman! Without her, man is nothing." is coming up on a lot of sites, though...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:26 am


Ksenia Sergeevina
Fairgrass
Ksenia Sergeevina
That's not using punctuation.


It has a comma. Doesn't that count?

Only if it changes the sentence. The words themselves can't change.


Oh, I see what you're saying. However, I only put the slashes (man / name) in because I didn't know which word you wanted to use. Putting the single comma in does change the meaning of the sentence.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:51 am


I hate grammar! evil

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:48 pm


red_moon_wolfess
My teacher gave that one to me as well, only it was an in class assignment. You got it though. Its the first one you have.


Yeah, we went over it in Sociology class when we studied gender inequality. The first one ("Woman, without her, man is nothing") is correct.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:25 pm


You could change the structure.
Woman without a man is nothing.
The sentence that you're trying to fix could be easily changed.
Women, without men, are nothing.

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