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 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:56 am
Yes I know this probably should go in the Otherkin subforum, but lets face it, very few people go into those and I'd actually like most people in the guild to see this just in case there is one.
Now for the main topic, I'm looking for people who are Avatars.
For those that do not know,
Avatar: From the Sanskrit for "passing down" or "passing over," an avatar (sometimes avatara) describes the descent to earth of a deity, or of the Deity, in material, usually humanly, form. Thus, a Teacher so labeled is believed to be a direct and conscious incarnation of the Divine, born without any karmic baggage, come to earth for a specific purpose, such as to establish a new spiritual path or way.
So far I've met two who claim to be, one "mysteriously" lost his powerful energy signature and the other....is just....annoying...and childish....as hell....and I can't stand him...so...yea.
Basically if anybody here is an Avatar, or knows of one, could you please let me know? I'm very curious and have some questions for you ^_^.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:00 am
To be without karmic baggage is to be a Buddha. Otherwise, you're talking about Deva or Ashura, who while being immensely powerful god and demi-gods, are not without karmic effects on their life.
So.... any Buddhas here? ninja
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:53 am
*chuckles* Don't look at me. I'm a scholarly type, but I don't think I'm even close to being free from karma...or immensely powerful, either. smile
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:50 am
"Free from karma" isn't exactly the key word here.
"Incarnated deity" is.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:39 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd To be without karmic baggage is to be a Buddha. Otherwise, you're talking about Deva or Ashura, who while being immensely powerful god and demi-gods, are not without karmic effects on their life. So.... any Buddhas here? ninja Would we consider Bodhisattvas as Avatars for this topic? While they aren't Buddhas, they are enlightened beings who have chosen to stay on earth instead of break the cycle ala Buddha... I honestly haven't met any avatars, just a few people who are priest/priestess of certain gods.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:59 am
iolitefire Blind Guardian the 2nd To be without karmic baggage is to be a Buddha. Otherwise, you're talking about Deva or Ashura, who while being immensely powerful god and demi-gods, are not without karmic effects on their life. So.... any Buddhas here? ninja Would we consider Bodhisattvas as Avatars for this topic? While they aren't Buddhas, they are enlightened beings who have chosen to stay on earth instead of break the cycle ala Buddha... I honestly haven't met any avatars, just a few people who are priest/priestess of certain gods. Sure. Bodhisattva would be a far better example of an Avatar. So, anyone know any enlightened beings who sacrificed their ticket out of reincarnation just to help every living creature attain enlightenment? ninja
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:41 am
>.>....people are taking this in the wrong light.
1. Incarnated deities are just like any other kin, they incarnate into a physical body.
2. Karma has nothing to do with it (except, I guess, in Buddha's case?).
3. Not ALL come here to, as the definition says, "start a new spiritual path or way".
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:54 pm
[BlkCat] >.>....people aren't taking this in the wrong light. 1. Incarnated deities are just like any other kin, they incarnate into a physical body. 2. Karma has nothing to do with it (except, I guess, in Buddha's case?). 3. Not ALL come here to, as the definition says, "start a new spiritual path or way". Carnation has EVERYTHING to do with karma. The karma in your present life dictates what you shall be in your next life. So, if you become a Deva, or Ashura, then that's because of karma. So any Avatar is a product of karma.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:56 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd [BlkCat] >.>....people aren't taking this in the wrong light. 1. Incarnated deities are just like any other kin, they incarnate into a physical body. 2. Karma has nothing to do with it (except, I guess, in Buddha's case?). 3. Not ALL come here to, as the definition says, "start a new spiritual path or way". Carnation has EVERYTHING to do with karma. The karma in your present life dictates what you shall be in your next life. So, if you become a Deva, or Ashura, then that's because of karma. So any Avatar is a product of karma. That's not true. We don't reincarnate, because we go to Heaven when we die.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:00 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd [BlkCat] >.>....people aren't taking this in the wrong light. 1. Incarnated deities are just like any other kin, they incarnate into a physical body. 2. Karma has nothing to do with it (except, I guess, in Buddha's case?). 3. Not ALL come here to, as the definition says, "start a new spiritual path or way". Carnation has EVERYTHING to do with karma. The karma in your present life dictates what you shall be in your next life. So, if you become a Deva, or Ashura, then that's because of karma. So any Avatar is a product of karma. No, if a deity incarnates into a physical form it is by choice, not karma.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:10 pm
Mitsh Blind Guardian the 2nd [BlkCat] >.>....people aren't taking this in the wrong light. 1. Incarnated deities are just like any other kin, they incarnate into a physical body. 2. Karma has nothing to do with it (except, I guess, in Buddha's case?). 3. Not ALL come here to, as the definition says, "start a new spiritual path or way". Carnation has EVERYTHING to do with karma. The karma in your present life dictates what you shall be in your next life. So, if you become a Deva, or Ashura, then that's because of karma. So any Avatar is a product of karma. That's not true. We don't reincarnate, because we go to Heaven when we die. Perhaps in your universe. smile
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:14 pm
Azana Brown Mitsh Blind Guardian the 2nd [BlkCat] >.>....people aren't taking this in the wrong light. 1. Incarnated deities are just like any other kin, they incarnate into a physical body. 2. Karma has nothing to do with it (except, I guess, in Buddha's case?). 3. Not ALL come here to, as the definition says, "start a new spiritual path or way". Carnation has EVERYTHING to do with karma. The karma in your present life dictates what you shall be in your next life. So, if you become a Deva, or Ashura, then that's because of karma. So any Avatar is a product of karma. That's not true. We don't reincarnate, because we go to Heaven when we die. Perhaps in your universe. smile My point exactly. Saying gods are products of karma is pretty much imposing a system over what BlkCat's askin' aboot. =o
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:21 am
Mitsh My point exactly. Saying gods are products of karma is pretty much imposing a system over what BlkCat's askin' aboot. =o I am simply offering my point of view on it, and my point of view involves this system. I believe it and am merely presenting it to others, and I don't expect for a moment that anyone would accept my point of view unless they believe it too. Any living non-enlightened being accumulates karma, postitive and negative. That is my belief.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:16 pm
I may an avatar you could talk to. Would you like me to share the username?
The person usually goes by "Joshua_Ritter."
You might of seen him somewhere, some time. He's currently working on becoming a deity... and being in human form, he would thus be an avatar of himself.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:39 pm
Khalida Nyoka I may an avatar you could talk to. Would you like me to share the username? The person usually goes by "Joshua_Ritter." You might of seen him somewhere, some time. He's currently working on becoming a deity... and being in human form, he would thus be an avatar of himself. Lol, well, not quite. Becoming a god in a physical sense and being a god incarnated into a physical body then born are what separate avatars from Josh. But I am interested in his ideas =P.
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