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Captain Jack Sporky
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:37 pm


Today, I was talking to one of my friends. He mentioned he had done meditation that day in Pychology. Then he went on to talk about them doing "Past Life Regressive Therapy." I will relate what he said as best I can.

"So we started past life regressive therapy. The idea was to solve a problem in this life by communing with yourself and remembering what happened in your past life. Se we started by meditating, and I made my blank. Then(he was vague here) we focused on out problem. What I saw was a room. Just a room, without any chairs, furniture, or anything. Just a white room. It was all fuzzy. I went from the birth to the death of that life in that room, and I never saw anyone. I was completly alone. It was fuzzy. I can ramamber I was a woman. The aloneness creeped me out. I was kinda scared. So after I was done, I talked to the teacher. She said she had tried this herself, and the fuzzyness and unreality might be normal. She said she was scared of things being around her neck. When she went into the meditation, she was trying to find out why that was. All she saw was a glimpse-she was a Dutch girl. She saw a man ride past and(he made a lashing motion with his hands) and lassoe her neck. Just that. He just rode by and (motion again) whacked her."
When questioned if he had a fear of being alone, he said yes.

Now here's my question- do you belive in past lives, and do you think it is possible through meditation to see into your past lives, or through some other way?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:01 pm


From one point of view I could say I believe in past lives, but what I really believe in is simultaneous existence. I'm not going to get into it here.

While I think it is possible to regain memories from past lives, I think sometimes the things we see in meditation might be more metaphorical than literal. Of course, I'd suppose that it would be different for everyone, since meditation is a very personalized experience.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:21 am


I do believe in past lives (for a long time after I saw MoA I was convinced that I was Morgaine xd - similar character to myself), and I think it's possible to carry over fears and joys of past lives into the present one.

I hope we do that in psychology... that'd be awesome. *makes a mental note to speak to Mr. Humble about it*
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:06 am


of corse. i believe that if you did not learn what you were supposed to or do what you were supposed to, in one life than you spirit will be reincarnated. and you will be givin another chance to do it all again.

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Captain Jack Sporky
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:56 pm


GameAngel64
From one point of view I could say I believe in past lives, but what I really believe in is simultaneous existence. I'm not going to get into it here.

While I think it is possible to regain memories from past lives, I think sometimes the things we see in meditation might be more metaphorical than literal. Of course, I'd suppose that it would be different for everyone, since meditation is a very personalized experience.
Well, I'd like to hear it. But you don't have to tell if you don't want to.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:04 pm


*nods* I believe in past lives. I have had a few odd experiences during meditation as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:24 pm


Hedge123
GameAngel64
From one point of view I could say I believe in past lives, but what I really believe in is simultaneous existence. I'm not going to get into it here.

While I think it is possible to regain memories from past lives, I think sometimes the things we see in meditation might be more metaphorical than literal. Of course, I'd suppose that it would be different for everyone, since meditation is a very personalized experience.
Well, I'd like to hear it. But you don't have to tell if you don't want to.


Err, if I try to explain it, I know everyone's gonna get the wrong idea cuz I'm not gonna explain it right sweatdrop

I guess it comes down to the fact that I think time is only an illusion we perceive in our current state of consciousness. Take that as you will. I believe that ultimately, however, things like past, present, and future have no relevance. Time is only a unit of measurement for change. If things remained in suspended animation all of the 'time', and the clock did not even move, we probably would not have a concept for time ourselves. But I'm going off on a tangent now.

I think that we are really living all of our lives simultaneously. When we perceive a past life, we are only shifting our consciousness to another state of our being. Even if we remember a life in, say, the fifties, you might say that that decade is gone, and therefore must be a memory of something past, but in the infinite reality the past is preserved forever, just as the present is, and the future will be/is. Nothing is gone, and nothing has yet to happen. It all just 'is.'

I don't mean to sound all preachy (or confusing), but you did ask wink Just be glad I didn't describe my concept of the 'multi-faceted personality' and soul filters.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:51 am


So you, essensialy-correct me if I'm wrong-belive that time is an abstract creation of our minds due to it's inability to percieve everything at once? So therefore "past lives" are really present lives?

Yeah, I know you didn't say the "creation of out of our minds inability...Ect", but I've heard that belief before. Is that how you belive we percieve time? Or some other way.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:21 pm


Captain Jack Sporky
So you, essensialy-correct me if I'm wrong-belive that time is an abstract creation of our minds due to it's inability to percieve everything at once? So therefore "past lives" are really present lives?

Yeah, I know you didn't say the "creation of out of our minds inability...Ect", but I've heard that belief before. Is that how you belive we percieve time? Or some other way.


I more or less agree with the first part of what you said. I'm not sure what you mean by the second part. While time may be a creation of our minds, I think it's also a part of the framework for the level of existence we are at, or at the very least a product of this state of consciousness.

As far as your comment about our minds' 'inability to perceive everything at once,' I guess that would pretty much describe the default state of consciousness we experience here (or feel that we experience), but that doesn't mean we can't expand experience beyond 'the basics.' 3nodding

While I essentially view time as just an illusion, it's usually more practical, or at least more functional, to speak in terms of time rather than getting hung up on the technicality that there is no time. If I spent every instant trying to transcend the illusion of time (and shift my consciousness to perceive 'everything'), I would be unable to function in this particular state of being. So, I feel that time is just a concept that acts as a tool of function, and is applicable to this state of consciousness, but has no higher application. And now I am rambling gonk

EDIT: ::Observes subject title, and realizes it's not "Time: True or False?"::

SO... how 'bout those past lives? wink
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:22 am


I believe in past lives. Its just so odd to think about them though, because you're so detached and you can only get bits and pieces. I often wonder if we have multiple lives so we don't get bored of living. *shrugs*

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:35 am


I most defintely believe in past lives, and the thing GameAngel just decsribed wink Its fun to talk about this stuff with her. xd I WUVS YOU!!! whee


Anywho, in the concept of similtaneous existence, I believe meditation could be used to view that life we are in... Argh, confusion...

All time is similtaneous and the taht stuff, but we can use meditation to 'look back' and see what we want to see there. Examples of one of my past lives...

Its a feudal Japan era, and there is a huge battle. I am wearing black armor with red in lay and lining on the armor, and I am fighting a man with armor like mine, except it blue. I then saw my sword (Which oddly enough I found on eBay. eek You can call me crazy later wink ) And saw several dragons flying around the sky, with Samurai riding them...

Now, this could be a Mystical Japan, or simply a representation with the dragons. But I DO have that sword now, and it IS ancient as hell. But still very very durable. ^_^ I must have had a keen blacksmith make it for me. xd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:13 am


while this really has nothing to do with past lives, but have any of you ever really thought about reality, and your dream world (the world in which you have dreams)? in a sense maybe our dream world is another form of reality in which we carry out things that we are taught we cannot do in this world. or maybe it is a link to another form of reality?

anyway back to past lives, i believe in them, i believe that souls are reused, if you will, until we learn what ever it is that we are supposed too.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:02 pm


I belive in past lifes. I belive that the soul and spirt is for ever but they aren't always together. It's like you have a bad life were you are really horrible or you take you own life. This would inturn upset the soul and it would leave. So in your next life you won't have your soul and you would have to try and earn it back again, trying to get its forgiveness.

When you get it back you also get the ablitiy to remember your past lives, letting you know want not to do to upset it.
I don't feel it is through meditation for me to gain access to my past lives but thourgh my nightmares, dreams and daydreams. I don't think this because it know it. It happens to me and it freaks me out. Every sense awaken to everything that happens, so awaken that you can feel the pain being infeclted on. The touch of someone hand on your skin. I guess the worst would be bring up blood, yet have no internal bleeding.

Sorry it's a bit long and I think it goes off in to tanget. Plus sorry for bad spelling.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:11 pm


chaoticpuppet
while this really has nothing to do with past lives, but have any of you ever really thought about reality, and your dream world (the world in which you have dreams)? in a sense maybe our dream world is another form of reality in which we carry out things that we are taught we cannot do in this world. or maybe it is a link to another form of reality?

anyway back to past lives, i believe in them, i believe that souls are reused, if you will, until we learn what ever it is that we are supposed too.


I also feel that the dream world also act like a link to another world or dimension. Depending how you look at it.

DrathBlue


GameAngel64

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:38 pm


chaoticpuppet
while this really has nothing to do with past lives, but have any of you ever really thought about reality, and your dream world (the world in which you have dreams)? in a sense maybe our dream world is another form of reality in which we carry out things that we are taught we cannot do in this world. or maybe it is a link to another form of reality?


Don't some people group dreams with the 'astral plane'?
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