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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:38 pm
This is your final warning. This thread contains impossibly huge, major spoilers for the new novel, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Do not read any further if you have not completed the book.
You have been warned.
So, let's see, 19 hours later, minus a little more than 7 hours of sleep, I guess?
What a difference half a day makes. Dumbledore's dead, Hogwarts might close, and Harry has no intention of going back anyway. 2, possibly 3 horcruxes remain at large, and another is a living thing voldemort keeps physically and magically close to himself. Snape has revealed his true nature( or has he?), and Malfoy has surprised everyone - well, everyone in his world, at least.
I must say, certain things about the book disappointed me. It was predictable in some places, seemed a bit rushed in others. From the moment I heard about Dumbledore's injury, I suspected he would die, and when I remembered there was a death to come, I felt more sure. Looking at the table of contents confirmed it for me beyond a shadow of a doubt. As for the identity of the prince, I suspected from the introduction of the Potions book that it must be either Lily or Snape. On the other hand, I never comprehended the true nature of Draco's mission until Albus and Harry landed on the Tower and found it deserted, nor did I suspect Rosmerta. All in all, as before, It only leaves me wondering what will come of it all in the end.
Discuss.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:50 pm
Being as I have nothing else to talk about...
Wow, that's almost as gritty as the end of Animorphs. Gives lots of hope for those little kids, huh?
I was never into Harry Potter. I don't think I will be.
But now that I made that comparison, I never did read the ending, like, 30 books of Animorphs. I suppose I should get on that.
Damn you, Vague.. And your.. Making me have urges.. To do.. Things. ninja
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:37 am
I actually finished reading it a little earlier, it took a little under 10 hours. Let me start of by saying I did like it and enjoyed it a lot. As Vague said it was predictable in some spots. I would have like to see more emphasis placed on the battle between the Aurors/teachers against the Death Eaters. It seemed like great scene but Harry just kinda ran through it all. There didn't seem to be one monumental task in this one, in the other books there was, Quidditch Cups, Trials, breaking into the Hall of Prophecy and the Chamber of Secrets, with no order or complete accuracy in that list for myself to be held accountable for. Like I said it would have been nice to see emphasis placed on something like a battle or a trial. I'm used to feeling this rushy/panic and excitement at one point or another in the books and this one, not so much. I really wish they'd bring back to merpeople more, I love that idea etc, tangent I know. But anyway I shall lend my opinion more when more specific topics of the book are brought up, also by no means do I feel like debating or defending my opinions fervidly, let me just say I liked it a LOT and am excited about the next one!!! heart 3nodding heart
Fun question: What do you think J.K. Rowling will do with the series after the 7th book, if anything???
I personally can see an offbranch of Harry in different dark quests or fighting evil, kinda like Saved by the Bell goes to college, but, ya know...better. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:40 am
Also, what happend in the end of Animorphs, I had EVERY single book until 25 or something and then I stopped and gave them to my church, I read all the Chronicles and side stories but I never did find out what happend in the end. I think it is the only series I have ever collected so seriously and made sure I got the new copy the week it came out. I also read her Outworld series which I thought ended well.
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:29 am
I thought after the 7th book she was going to be done with the Potter series? Although I guess her publisher might pressure her into more. sweatdrop Maybe she'll off-branch and do a series about Draco or some other character entirely. That'd be sort of interesting.
I watch the Harry Potter movies every now and then, I never really got into the books. The first movie sucked a**, but the others are kind of cool.
The Animorphs series... Everyone dies except for two people, and I forgot who the two people were. Maybe it was just one person. But the point is, they lost the fight with the Yeerks.
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:11 pm
Rowling has already said she doesn't intend to write any more books about Harry after #7. If she writes any more books, they will be companion pieces, adding depth to the background of Harry's world, and with all proceeds donated to charity( like the two "text books" of Harry's that she published a few years ago.
Some other things... It's important to remember that at that point, it was either Snape or Dumbledore. Had Snape failed to kill him, Snape himself would have died( Unbreakable Vow, remember?) and one of the other Death Eaters would have killed Dumbledore. I was upset, though, I rather wanted Snape to be a reluctant hero, I hoped one of the morals for the children would be not to let personal feelings blind you or influence your perception of others, but I guess she wants to use Malfoy as the example of not-as-bad-as-you-think. I think it was a bit heavy-handed to have Dumbledore die after going after a bad lead on a horcrux. That's almost as bad as Sirius dying because Harry was too immature to practice occlumency and too stupid to remember the mirror. What do you make of R.A.B.? The only thing I could think of was Regulus Black. There's probably a hint somewhere, if nothing else, Rowling is good at foreshadowing. As soon as I read the name Sirius Black in Prisoner, I turned back to the beginning of Stone, and, sure enough... Also, I want to know what happens when your secret-keeper dies. Albus wasn't just the head of the Order, he was secret-keeper for its location.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:12 am
Wow. It is so nice to be confronted with normal speeds of reading. No, really. My best friend read in 5 to 6 hours, another of my friends read it in four...all of my friends read like this. It's the kind of thing that leaves me sobbing into my pillow in frustration. (I am a very slow reader -- always have been. It took me roughly...15 hours? Give or take?)
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:40 am
Time is no matter as long as you enjoy it and don't miss important details Astri biggrin But yeah, about the Unbreakable Vow, wasn't it to help Draco no matter what, so even if Draco wanted to give up and turn good, for extremities sake, wouldn't Snape help him in that way? Also, I like to believe that none of the Death Eaters were powerful enough to kill Dumbledore. I think it would be nice to have Malfor end up not as evil as we all thought in the end. I have this weird feeling that Snape is going to sacrifice himself for Harry or someone close to him in the end, I have no evidence, just a feeling. I also think it would be cool to have Hagrid become head of Gryffindor. I mean can McGonagall (sp?) balance, Headmistress, teacher and head of house?
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:30 am
There will probably be a new Transfiguration teacher if Howarts doesn't close, but Harry and friends aren't going back anyway, remember? Also, re-read the first chapter( I think that's why people finished so fast, they didn't read carefully - to finish a 600-page book in 5 hours means a page every 30 seconds. I'm considered a fast reader, so unless your friends are genuine speed-readers...) his Vow had three parts, the last part was to finish Draco's mission if Draco was going to fail.
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:52 pm
It took about 20 hours to read it, I'm not sure though, since I read only few hours/day. In days, it took 5 days.
I think that this is the second best Potter. I like more Goblet of Fire. But Half-Blood is the saddest. I cried last 50 pages. It all started when Harry and Dumbledore returned to Hogwarts. Why Dumbledore had to die? ;___;
It wasn't surprise that it was Severus who kills D. But why Draco had to become death eater.. Don't like that idea. Draco was mean to Harry, Ron & Hermione, well to everybody.. But still.. I didn't want that he'd become one of the death eaters.
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:01 pm
with snape and draco in the end, i think snape killed dumbledore because dumbeldore wanted him to. if it wasn't done, draco would have been taken out and dumbeldore would do anything for one of his students.
it's going to come into the next book and be some huge dark secret that's either going to make you hate or fall for snape...i think...
*back to lurking* ninja pirate
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:38 pm
I was a bit disappointed as well. I was getting so use to the big climactic rush of each book that Harry being frozen and powerless, while the castle was invaded and Dumbledore was added to the death count. The only way I see Rowling in redeeming that is by making that scene of Draco's hesitation and Snape fufillment of the Vow integral to the last book.
Rowling was always so subtle with her foreshadowing, but I also missed Rosmerta as a possible suspect. She hardly appeared at all, and it wasn't until Dumbledore mentioned that he made it appear that he went to the Hog's Head by mentioning it to Rosemerta did suspicions rise.
The whole issue of romantic ties being much stronger aggravated me a bit as well. I can see how she set up Ron/Hermoine. But who actually saw the Harry/Ginny relationship popping up again? I spent a good 10 minutes thinking "Didn't she just get over him? Now he ...what?"
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:43 am
My theory: Harry is a Horcrux
Snape is innocent. If you don't believe me, reread the part where hagrid tells harry about the argument between dumbledore and snape.
Dumbledore will come back the old guy always comes back. Gandalf and people.. yep, always come back remember the headmaster's portraits? besides, remember in book 5 when dumbledore was 'on the run from the ministry' he was talking about how much easier it was to work for the Order, then? hmmm?
Aughhh but so much snogging left and right.. I wonder how they're gonna put that into the movie. fwar. and I definitely agree with Keithing about everything. except rosmerta. I absolutely forgot anything happened about her...
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:30 am
surprised your theory makes sense about Harry being a possible horcrux. However if you think about it, Voldemort creating his horcruxes happened before he tried to kill Harry (meaning if Harry would were an extra horcrux, it would negate the set amount Voldie set for his magical number), but he did end upaccidentally having some of his traits imbedded onto Harry (and I think that might be just what happened).
And, if you think about the protection that Lily gave Harry, it would've countered anything that would've kept Voldemort alive in Harry, in this case, a horcrux. Since a part of Voldemorts life is different from inheriting Parseltongue.
In regards to Ablus coming back, I think he might end up just being some sort of portrait giving the Order advice and such.
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:13 pm
Not true at all. The Parseltongue comes from having part of Voldemort's power, which in essense is part of Voldemort's life force.
Nevertheless, I still say Harry dies at the end of the novels.
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