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~Kinoshta-san~

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:04 pm


The phrase "Falling in love" has been used, and in many cases, over used so many times that it has become commonplace in our society. People will ask each other "Why did you get married"
"Oh, I fell in love with him" some will reply, or "We just clicked, I could feel the chemistry right away". I want to make a point that I hope people will understand: What our society recognizes as "love" isn't love at all, it is merely infatuation.
This is a bold statement, to be sure, and one that needs to be meditated upon. For a long time I have been searching for answers: What is love? And how can we recognize it? Here I have put together a small array of opinions and scripture references to help organize my thoughts. Keep in mind I am not discounting previous alliances or current situations, but it is my hope that I can get an idea of what love is, and why it isn't what we think it is. {Okay, way to confuzzle people ^^;}
One of the first real examples of love that people are exposed to in the Bible comes to us from John 3:16 which I’m sure all of you have heard at one time or another: For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. I have been told that love is a sacrifice, and an unending, unconditional commitment. We hear again from John an example: “Greater love hath no man that this, that a man lay down his life for his friends”. Growing up, I have heard people say that there are different kinds of love, but it is hard to understand that in the English language. In other languages, there are many different words for the “many” different kinds of love. I think that there is only one kind of love, but it induces different things based upon whom you are talking about. Of course, Jesus calls us to love everyone, but we don’t always do that, now do we? For instance, you love your friends, but it is definitely not like how you would love your husband or wife.
It seems to me that, based upon what I have heard from teachers, mentors, and my findings that love is more like…a process. One decides to love another (we are talking about a spouse here), commits to them, and in some cases sacrifices some things for them, and then the frothy, happy, emotions come. My youth pastor said something very interesting a while ago. He said that God doesn’t want us to be all frothed up with emotion for Him…yet. He wants us to love him by obeying him and worshipping him, and then the emotions come. That makes a lot of sense to me, seeing as how relationships that are just based on emotions fall apart very quickly. Think about it: an emotion is a chemical response in your brain, but real love lasts an eternity. Well, God’s love anyway. A human relationship cannot last if God does not back it. This is a lesson that I hope to carry with me all the way through my life.
Let me finish by showing perhaps the most obvious, and concise picture of love; which stands above any and all statements I can blab: “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres” (1Corinthians 13:4-7)

Please feel free to respond with your opinion and/or beliefs on the subject, I'd like to get some discussion going. But as always, please keep...nice ^^


{By the way, while I was strolling around the Internet, I found a site that may give you some answers to these and other questions: www.gotquestions.org}  
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:17 pm


Oh come now, don't be afraid, I don't bite! You can respond, really! ^.^

~Kinoshta-san~


Godrules272

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:13 am


I think your right about love especially how people today view it. and, personally, I believe that love isn't an emotion at all but a verb, an action. Jesus showed his love for us by laying down his life. Showed is an action. Today, showing our love for others and the love of God can be as simple as being polite and friendly to someone without a hidden agenda.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:08 pm


Godrules272
I think your right about love especially how people today view it. and, personally, I believe that love isn't an emotion at all but a verb, an action. Jesus showed his love for us by laying down his life. Showed is an action. Today, showing our love for others and the love of God can be as simple as being polite and friendly to someone without a hidden agenda.


Right on ^^

~Kinoshta-san~


Doc Pepoluan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:04 am


Do remember that in Greek, there are 4 kinds of love:
- Eros
- Storge
- Phyllia
- Agape

(excuse the spelling -- I'm not sure about that)

Eros is the lustful, but rightful, love between a husband and a wife.

Storge is the family love, e.g. between parents and children.

Phyllia is the friendship love.

Agape is the pure love, without any reservation, despite any circumstances.

I was told that Jesus asked Simon Peter three times whether Peter loved him, and it goes roughly like this:
- Peter do you (agape) Me more than anyone?
- Peter do you (agape) Me?
- Peter do you (phyllia) Me?

In each question Peter said that "Yes, you know I (phyllia) you."

( The distinction is not really clear in KJV, it is more pronounced in NIV )

And thus Peter cried because Peter then understand how deep his love for Christ actually was.

Disclaimer: I don't actually check the Greek NT, so please CMIIW.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:44 pm


I dislike the enlgish language. You're absolutely right about the different words for love. Almost every other language has them, in english...it's just love. Don't ask me these other words, for I know them not, just know of their existence. (thank you pepoluan ^.^)
Love is a powerful subject...and a much more powerful element.
Love your friends, love your family, love your lover, love your enemies...and love yourself.

A beautiful concept, however torn by our world now...Jesus kissed his dear friends in greeting...doing so now (mostly by men...women seem to be a bit more comfortable with it) would result in accusations!
"He's Gay!"

((Gay's original meaning is happy and blissful and using it to mean homosexual ticks me off...but that's another subject for another time. ^.^))

As americans, we've come to degrade love...
Some say "Make Love" for sex...as if sex is love...and these are the people who will never have a meaningful relationship...

Love is pure...why? Love is from God.
Do you know what hate is? Hate is nonexistant. analogy:
Does cold exist?
No. Cold is a term we've come up with to describe the lack of heat.
does dark exist?
No. Dark is simply what we call an area with no light...
Do Hate and Evil exist?
No. They are simply terms we've come up with to describe a lack of the love God has given us to give to the world...
That's power.

Two movies come to mind...one is not well known...
The Rigoletto.
"Love more than anything teaches our hearts to sing, Only Love can break the spell...now I know, very well...the love inside myself..."

And Moulin Rouge (i know, not a very good theme, but the words stay true.)
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return."
"Love is like oxygen! Love is a many splendid thing! Love lifts us up where we belong! All you need is love!"


All you need is love...think about that. All you need is love...
God allowed Satan to torture Job...and Job remained faithful. Why? He had Love! God's love! We were made in God's image and told to "Love one another, for Love is of God." If love is of God, tell me it's not powerful!

The concept of Love is something I believe in with all my heart, and it burns me up to know that America has lowered it's true meaning so! It's a belief I'll fight to the end for.
"If it's not worth taking a bullet over, it's not worth believing."
~Me

However off topic I got, forgive me...whew...I haven't ranted like that in awhile...^.^

Jimbob Not Home

Original Elocutionist


Sarcastic_Angel

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:35 pm


Society has almost completely destroyed the idea of love. Love is the most wonderful thing anyone can experience, and the world (especially Hollywood) has turned it into this game. The concept of "Love at first sight" is just silly. That feeling of "love" tha tyou get when you first see someone is just infatuation based off of physical appearance and sex appeal.

I do, however, believe in the idea of soulmates, just not in the way that Hollywood does. Soulmates, as I have come to believe, are made. It's like how Kinoshta put it. "love is more like...a process."Only you have nurtured one another and helped someone grow, and he/she do likewise with you and to where you know the other one so completely can you be soulmates. The idea of soulmates is a destination, not a starting point, like the way the movies show.

I really like the quotes you put out Purified. Those are two of my favorite movies, and those quotes put love out in a way most people don't understand. Love is beautiful, and pure, and we should cease degrading it and start building it back up again.
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