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Roth

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:07 pm


I'm just wondering who takes it? And alos I'm planning on taking another martial art along with Hap Ki Do in a few month and just wondering what martial art would be good to train in, that would be a good spawn off of Hap Ki Do's principals. I was thinking Ai Ki Do
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:28 pm


sorry for my ignorance but what exactly is hap ki do caues ive only seen it before in mortal kombat and thats not a very good scorce of martal arts information.

Uggae


Triste

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:36 pm


Somehow I don't think Aikido is a very good addition to the Hapkido skills you have/will learn. I'd suggest Wing Chun, to help with close-up combat.

Just a suggestion, though. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:46 am


Uggae
sorry for my ignorance but what exactly is hap ki do caues ive only seen it before in mortal kombat and thats not a very good scorce of martal arts information.

Hapkido is a korean martial art that is sort of a cross between aikido and taekwondo, to the best of my understanding.

I cant see aikido really developing your skills that much as its a bit similar. As triste said maybe something a bit more striking based, or even japanese sword stuff might be a good compliment. Is there sword work in hapkido?

DarklingGlory
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JoshuaKenzo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:11 am


That depends entirely on what and how you wish to improve.
If you want to train in an art that will make up for the lacking techniques in hapkido, aikido might indeed not be what you are looking for.

If you are, however, looking for something to improve your hapkido, aikido is a great thing to do.
Aikido is good in general. Like Tai Chi, but with less hippies and grannies. xd
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:59 am


JoshuaKenzo
If you are, however, looking for something to improve your hapkido, aikido is a great thing to do.
Aikido is good in general. Like Tai Chi, but with less hippies and grannies. xd

Somehow I disagree with your comparing it to Tai Chi. sweatdrop

Triste


JoshuaKenzo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:33 am


How so? Tai Chi is, like aikido, also an art that does not do harm to one's movement or body.
It can only do it good.
The same applies to aikido.
Of course, I'm talking stereotypical Tai Chi where you have to "be the tree".
Hence the referring of hippies. whee
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:52 am


DarklingGlory
Uggae
sorry for my ignorance but what exactly is hap ki do caues ive only seen it before in mortal kombat and thats not a very good scorce of martal arts information.

Hapkido is a korean martial art that is sort of a cross between aikido and taekwondo, to the best of my understanding.

I cant see aikido really developing your skills that much as its a bit similar. As triste said maybe something a bit more striking based, or even japanese sword stuff might be a good compliment. Is there sword work in hapkido?


It has alot of the same principals as Aikido (from what I understand) , but Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do, come from the same place and era, so they kinda fell in to the same category of martial arts. So thats why they are so similar.

But basically, Hap Ki Do's biggest points for defence are throws, joint locks, pressure points, strikes, and kicks. But the basics that you have to learn from the start is dives, kicks, and technique. Technique being defence against certain attacks (ex: punching, kicks, collar, lunges, etc.).

But in Hap Ki Do there is sword work, but I' havn't learned it yet. Once you get to 5th degree black belt is when you start training with acctual sword attacks, but sometimes if you train enough in first, you can learn how so defend against simialar weapons (canes, sticks, before black belt the first weapon defence you learn is knife), but mostly you learn the sword like techniques around 2nd degree.

I'm 1st degree right now though.

Roth


Roth

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:54 am


JoshuaKenzo
How so? Tai Chi is, like aikido, also an art that does not do harm to one's movement or body.
It can only do it good.
The same applies to aikido.
Of course, I'm talking stereotypical Tai Chi where you have to "be the tree".
Hence the referring of hippies. whee


You must BE the weed, dude. -o- Peace....

jk
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:54 am


JoshuaKenzo
How so? Tai Chi is, like aikido, also an art that does not do harm to one's movement or body.
It can only do it good.
The same applies to aikido.
Of course, I'm talking stereotypical Tai Chi where you have to "be the tree".
Hence the referring of hippies. whee


*coughs* I don't know how much good is done in Aikido. Take for example the story of the friend of my instructor (the sensei that took over the dojo) who used to go to the dojo. He worked in Japan and this police came up to him, gripping his shirt. The guy said he wanted the police to let go and after stating it and the police not letting go, he went and broke the police's arm. Of course, he went to jail for it...

Hahaha don't get me started on hippies. It depends on who is teaching. Tai Chi is slower, but to many more difficult, like yoga because you have to hold positions steady, and that is tough, especially on balance. Once sped up, Tai Chi can be lethal because of the precision where the art is taught.

Almost every martial arts, especially Aikido, has hippies teaching it. The ideas of ki or chi lend themselves to the hippy culture. I've heard of hippies teaching Aikido as well, creating bullshidos. Think of it that way.

Take Tai Chi if you want to train more towards having total command of your body. Also be aware that Tai Chi would take a lot longer in training before you can be proficient at it enough to use it like other martial arts, say in a spar or in training. Probably around 10 years, I would guess-timate.

Lunaries


JoshuaKenzo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:00 am


Lunaries
JoshuaKenzo
How so? Tai Chi is, like aikido, also an art that does not do harm to one's movement or body.
It can only do it good.
The same applies to aikido.
Of course, I'm talking stereotypical Tai Chi where you have to "be the tree".
Hence the referring of hippies. whee


*coughs* I don't know how much good is done in Aikido. Take for example the story of the friend of my instructor (the sensei that took over the dojo) who used to go to the dojo. He worked in Japan and this police came up to him, gripping his shirt. The guy said he wanted the police to let go and after stating it and the police not letting go, he went and broke the police's arm. Of course, he went to jail for it...

Hahaha don't get me started on hippies. It depends on who is teaching. Tai Chi is slower, but to many more difficult, like yoga because you have to hold positions steady, and that is tough, especially on balance. Once sped up, Tai Chi can be lethal because of the precision where the art is taught.

Almost every martial arts, especially Aikido, has hippies teaching it. The ideas of ki or chi lend themselves to the hippy culture. I've heard of hippies teaching Aikido as well, creating bullshidos. Think of it that way.

Take Tai Chi if you want to train more towards having total command of your body. Also be aware that Tai Chi would take a lot longer in training before you can be proficient at it enough to use it like other martial arts, say in a spar or in training. Probably around 10 years, I would guess-timate.


I love this woman. xd

What people do with the techniques they learn is up to them.

For the rest, aside agreeing and pointing some bad aspects about the fact that hippies are so present in some martial arts, I don't see you disagreeing with me.
Combining aikido with any other martial art whatsoever can not pose a problem in the practicing of the other art. If anything, it can only do good.
The same applies for Tai Chi.

Of course we're talking proper aikido and Tai Chi here, not Bullshitkido and Tai Cheap.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:36 am


JoshuaKenzo


I love this woman. xd

What people do with the techniques they learn is up to them.

For the rest, aside agreeing and pointing some bad aspects about the fact that hippies are so present in some martial arts, I don't see you disagreeing with me.
Combining aikido with any other martial art whatsoever can not pose a problem in the practicing of the other art. If anything, it can only do good.
The same applies for Tai Chi.

Of course we're talking proper aikido and Tai Chi here, not Bullshitkido and Tai Cheap.


LOL You keep telling me you love me and I just might start believing ya. wink

I don't diagree with you at all. In fact, I'm looking to stray away from Aikdio a bit after I feel that I have a good solid grounding in it. Cross training does a world of good and even my sensei has crossed trained in judo and karate.

Tai Chi is generally good for elder people because it is slower and more meditative. As with all martial arts, there is a soft way of practicing it and a hard way. You can train as hard as you want. Often, it's personal and your sensei's choice.

I love that. "Tai Cheap" That's great *laughs*

One good way to spot how good a dojo is, not by seeing what federations or what lineage, but by actually going to go watch a class and see how the sensei teaches. See if the teacher practices too what he/she preaches, how willing is he/she to be hands on, and how much he/she sweats with the student. I find that better than any credentials the school might present.

Lunaries


Uggae

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:30 pm


ok thanks for clearing that up for me.
well if youd like to learn more joint locks, throws, and or work on some internal traning try out Soo Bahk Do (my art ) its a decent all around art from korea if you want to know more ill give you the link to the federation website

http://www.soobahkdo.com/fed-web/federation.htm

and there it is
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:37 pm


Uggae
ok thanks for clearing that up for me.
well if youd like to learn more joint locks, throws, and or work on some internal traning try out Soo Bahk Do (my art ) its a decent all around art from korea if you want to know more ill give you the link to the federation website

http://www.soobahkdo.com/fed-web/federation.htm

and there it is


What does Soo Bahk Do litarally translate to? Cause I just scanned it and I saw the heart of the art in there alot, is that what it is?

Roth


Uggae

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:59 pm


humm the leteral modern korean translation is way of the watermellon, but the anchent korean translation is way of combat with bare hands and feet. Founder Kwan Jang Nim devoleped the art to be used to stop internal and external conflict and do so effectivly hence our arts reliance on the use of the hu ri (waist) for offence and defence rather than the extermitys the logic is you can do more damage withall your weight in an attack than you can with just your arm or leg. also all our throws and joint locks/breaks (which there are many) are taught to be used defensively and as a way to stop fighting. and the philosphy of the art is very important for the traning. Honestly my instructor is way better at explaning these things then me, so i hope i helped you.
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