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Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:32 am


Guys, I need some help. A couple weeks ago, I met this cute boy at a Halo party (That's like a nerd version of spin the bottle. xDDD) And I instantly liked him. He seemed friendly, and invited me back (I was only there as a guest) and yesterday, While I was skipping, he ran into me, told me he got suspended from school and invited me back to his house for a bit. I'm not calling it a date, but it felt kinda-sorta like one. ^-^;; So back at his house, I found out his name was Aaron (Is that how you spell the name? I seem to recall it had a "y" in it instead of an "o" too, but that doesn't look right...) he was studying to be a mechanic, and he was scared of heights. AND MYUUUU HE'S CUUUUUTE. Ahem.

We ended up trying to fix his "s**t bike" (It's what he calls it) and eventually, we gave up and headed into town, where I got us both italian sodas (If you haven't tried them, I HIGHLY recommend them to you) And he ordered kiwi watermelon. <3 He said he couldn't finish it, gave it to me.

Then we went to his... cousin's? house (He apparently has a very extended family in summerland), talked to his druggie cousin (He assured me she's clean, but she was obviously hungover from something....) and wrestled. Yes. The great fairy mendori wrestled someone to the ground. cool Granted, he's thirteen, but SHUT UP. IT'S LEGAL HERE.

So we ended up doing a bunch of random crap and then went to SADI to relax, where I met some friends and started being more phairylike again. X_X He got uncomfortable, and told me he was leaving after a while, and now that I think back on it, that was a clear invitation to go with him. >_> DAMN ME.

Anyways. The kid's basically a juvenile deliquent, though apparently he's never been arrested. He smokes pot sometimes (very rarely, he assures me), "carhops" regularly, and he's apparently had a whole lot of sex with his girlfriend. He does call himself a christian, and there are some clues he's been giving off that make me think he's gay in denial. He seems desparate to make himself seem "not gay", I caught him hugging all his female friends, (Awwwww) and when he said he wasn't gay, he said [LYKQUOTE]I'm not gay, I'm Christian, Christians are against gays."[LYKENDQUOTE] and he was totally blushing as he said it and obviously embarressed, Which makes me think he's trying to convince himself.

SO. The after-tax five-hundred-thousand-dollar-question: How do I get him to start being more Christlike (or give it up altogether) without letting myself get dragged down into what he does, AND keep him either as a friend or as /more/? I admit, I DO need to get out more, but some of the stuff he does.... Meh, both of us could probably live without.

Ignore the "is being gay/having gay sex a sin" debate, please.

DISCUSS:

Him/me (YES THAT'S SLASH. =O)
Missionary dating
christian beliefs
the question I have above
my (not-really-a) date with him


OH YEAH. Ever since then, I've had this feeling in my chest and stomach, like total emptiness and I can't fill it up no matter how much I eat. Is that heartache? ;-;


<3 Thank you, all!

EDIT:: I'm male, just to clarify. AND NO DISCUSSING THE IS BEING GAY A SIN THING. That's for other threads, and I'd really like to get some actual advice on the topic at hand.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:08 pm


Him/You
Pity. Seriously, I know it dosn't feel like it, but I've been through a similar road. You may like him, but it'll wear off give it a week. Also bear in mind what he does, give creit where it is due, if it was an invitation like you said, maybe he likes you [or is trying to convince himself to] there by he'll want to look good infront of you, even if that mean being dishonest. NO MATTER HOW AWESOME HE SEEMS HE'S STILL HUMAN, AND MORE THEN THAT MALE. (no offence to any guys, but you guys are sort-of weird in hint-dropping, and just weird in a bunch of stuff.)

Missionary Dating
Simple hints work best then gradually when/if you get more comfortable ask him about what he thinks it is to be a Christian, obviously people are different so take advice with heed though. my aunt and my uncle are both perfect examples, my uncles wife now believes in Christ (my uncle was a christian), my aunt we now think is being abused for teaching her three kids about anything Spiritual (My Uncle is not a Christian). I've seem the scales not even to the fullest: rember your values, and weigh your costs out well.

Is being gay a sin
I still hate this question, it's too murkey for my taste. I personally think that God will only give you what you can handle. Yes, acts of homosexuality are sins, however being hommosexual isn't. I'm just going to stop there as to not run my mouth with out proof.
Disclamer" What I have said in the above paragraph I have no current proof of, it's only my oppinion.

not-really-a-date
Arn't those the way that every cute Hololywood movie starts out with? I guess that I have no problem with it as long as SOMONE knows that you two are alone; even if it's just a friend that's pretty close to you. Like he said: the scarlet sin is a daily occurence for him; don't make it so for you, keep your head above the water, and more so kee his up when he's aorund you. If you really do care for him, then you should know enough about the situation to keep tabs on things. once agian like I said above with my aunt, she didn't and look where it's landed her. I say that not because he will but because he dosn't seem to be the little boy that every dad dreams of his baby girl marying (I say that as politely as it can sound). ust be aware and have somone near other then that I don't see how it could be a problem.

Disclaimer: You know him better then anyone, use this as advice not a way around thinking.

SoulAsylum1119


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:19 pm


wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:25 am


NewFoundLight
wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?


So, you couldn't tell I was gay from all the "I'm gay", "I like men", "YAY d**k", and other comments I'm ALWAYS posting?
neutral

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


SoulAsylum1119

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:47 pm


.,..you're a guy, I never put that together!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:44 pm


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?


So, you couldn't tell I was gay from all the "I'm gay", "I like men", "YAY d**k", and other comments I'm ALWAYS posting?
neutral
I've never seen any of those all I've seen is that you support homosexuality.

Sir BlackHeart


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:45 pm


NewFoundLight
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?


So, you couldn't tell I was gay from all the "I'm gay", "I like men", "YAY d**k", and other comments I'm ALWAYS posting?
neutral
I've never seen any of those all I've seen is that you support homosexuality.


...oops. Wrong guild. redface
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:46 pm


Love_to_live
.,..you're a guy, I never put that together!
xd

Sir BlackHeart


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:48 pm


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?


So, you couldn't tell I was gay from all the "I'm gay", "I like men", "YAY d**k", and other comments I'm ALWAYS posting?
neutral
I've never seen any of those all I've seen is that you support homosexuality.


...oops. Wrong guild. redface
anyways yes, I would like to ask you those question now do you wish to do it over pm or in this guild?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:05 pm


NewFoundLight
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?


So, you couldn't tell I was gay from all the "I'm gay", "I like men", "YAY d**k", and other comments I'm ALWAYS posting?
neutral
I've never seen any of those all I've seen is that you support homosexuality.


...oops. Wrong guild. redface
anyways yes, I would like to ask you those question now do you wish to do it over pm or in this guild?


In the guild works perfectly, given that it's not like, graphic descriptions I have to give of every sexual encounter I've had (Re: None.)

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


Sir BlackHeart

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:02 pm


well the reason I ask this is because I feel it would be enlightening, yet at the same time I wish to ask questions that aren't exactly wholesome, and this is a christian guild and I'd rather not cause the spiritual stumbling of some people if you know what I mean.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:59 pm


NewFoundLight
well the reason I ask this is because I feel it would be enlightening, yet at the same time I wish to ask questions that aren't exactly wholesome, and this is a christian guild and I'd rather not cause the spiritual stumbling of some people if you know what I mean.
^-^

Point taken. PM then.

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori


xkid0

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:39 pm


Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori
NewFoundLight
wait...him aren't you a dude...!!?!?!?!!?!?!? gonk

EDIT: I saw the bottom half of your post now...so yea.... and actually now that I know your gay I have a few question for you?


So, you couldn't tell I was gay from all the "I'm gay", "I like men", "YAY d**k", and other comments I'm ALWAYS posting?
neutral
I've never seen any of those all I've seen is that you support homosexuality.


...oops. Wrong guild. redface


That would explain it. I thought everyone had gone completely insane for a moment (I must be in the other guild, or I am better at picking up the hints?)

Him/me (YES THAT'S SLASH. =O)
Dates are gross. Everyone should become a monk/nun (that is my excuse for never going on dates, well that and I think I am too young... or was. Forget it.)

Missionary dating
Dating a non-believer? I personally don't think it is the best idea, although it can work for strong Christians I suppose. It is much easier to pull someone down, than to pull someone up

christian beliefs
Christians should not be against gays. We should love them as much as everyone else. Last time I checked, they were human... are you human?

the question I have above
Open his mouth, shove a Bible down his throat. That should work. Yep. No doubt about it.

I don't really know. Pray. Always pray. Talk to him about it.

my (not-really-a) date with him
Well seeing as your talking to the man of a thousand dates/ not-dates... I have no clue.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:47 am


From what I've seen, 'Missionary Dating' hardly ever works. I know someone who tried that and ended up forgetting church and ultimately, God. She lowered her standards to match his 'so they could have more in common.' That's why the Bible tells us not to be unequally yoked with non-believers. That's just my opinion, though =]

tfklovr


elmon

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:26 am


tfklovr
From what I've seen, 'Missionary Dating' hardly ever works. I know someone who tried that and ended up forgetting church and ultimately, God. She lowered her standards to match his 'so they could have more in common.' That's why the Bible tells us not to be unequally yoked with non-believers. That's just my opinion, though =]

I deem missionary-dating wrong: you're trying to impose your will on someone. Besides, if you don't love that person for who he/she is, then what is the point in dating anyway? And Christians can date non-believers, but most Christians in this guild are extremists, it's true. I know plenty of people who you'd never think are Christian, but they still are. They just aren't as obsessed.
I hope this isn't too offending...
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