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Cynder
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:57 am


DEVNOTE!
Upon further review, I have determined that, for the sake of balance, the Cyntos would need to be turned into a base class. As such, retooling shall commense in the next two weeks.... if my happy a** can remember.

So I was thinking about making a prestige class for DnD for Kratos from God of War. I know that a gaming magazine stated him out a while back, but I was wanting to actually put something together as a divine class with some limited spell casting (think paladin) with a lot of combat capability, and class features that emulate the Blades of Chaos/Athena. What I want to know is, would those of us that are DnD 3.5 inclined be willing/ would like to help balance and troubleshoot this with me?

Any takers?

edit:
The class so far
CYNTOS PRESTIGE

Requirements :
Base Attack Bonus: +5
Rage class feature.
Feats: Two weapon fighting, Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain or Drow Scorpion Chain), Weapon Specialization (Spiked Chain or Drow Scorpion Chain).
Skills: Intimidate 5 ranks
Alignment: Any Chaotic or Any Non-Good (?)
Special: Must petition a deity whose portfolio include the war domain and swear an oath of fealty to the deity. Must also be initated into the class by the petitioned deity.

Class Skills
Same as fighter
2+Int modifier skill points/level

Class features:
BAB Progression. +1/1
Strong Save: Fortitude
Weak saves: Reflex, Will
HD: D8
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Cyntos gain proficiency with their Blade of Chaos and no additional weapon or armor proficiencies. Blades of Chaos are chain daggers that are attached to the user's forearms. They cannot be removed short of divine intervention or amputation of the limb itself. (See specifications below)

Special abilities
1: Blades of Chaos, Weapon Proficiency (Blade of Chaos)
2: Blades of Chaos +1
3: Ignite Blades of Chaos
4:
5: Blades of Chaos +2, Improved Blades of Chaos
6: Keen Blades of Chaos
7:
8: Blades of Chaos +3
10: Gaze of the Enemy, Greater Blades of Chaos

Spellcasting: Similar to Paladin progression. Need to work on this.

Blades of Chaos : Any and all feats with the Spiked chain also apply to Blades of Chaos. Blade of Chaos is a piercing and slashing melee weapon with a reach of 10’. Blades of Chaos deal 1d6 slashing or piercing damage each, and have a critical threat range of 19-20/x2. As a Cyntos progresses in levels, his or her Blades of Chaos become stronger, gaining a +1 enhancement bonus at 2nd leve, and an additional +1 for every three levels after that. Each blade in the Blades of Chaos weighs 5 lb. Blades of Chaos ignore all damage other than damage delt by a deity. Blades of Chaos can only be destroyed by a deity or with a Greater Wish (?) spell.

Keen Blades of Chaos: Starting at level 6 a Cyntos' Blades of Chaos have the Keen weapon enhancement, causing their critical range to become 17-20/x2. This ability does not stack with any other effect that increases the critical threat range of the Blades of Chaos (i.e. the Keen Edge spell or the Improved Critical feat.)

Improved Blades of Chaos: At 5th level, the Blades of Chaos deal 1d8 slashing or piercing damage instead of 1d6.

Greater Blades of Chaos: At 10th level, the Blades of Chaos deal 1d10 slashing or piercing damage instead of 1d8.

Weapon Proficiency (Blades of Chaos) : At first level, a Cyntos automatically gains proficiency with the Blades of Chaos due to them being bound to his very being.

Ignite Blades of Chaos : The wielder may cause both of their Blades of Chaos to burst into flame, as though it were a flaming weapon, dealing an additional 1D6 points of fire damage. While this ability is activated, the weilder takes 1 point of fire damage per round. This damage can not be prevented in any way. At 7th level, treat the weapon as though it has the flaming burst weapon enhancement. On a critical hit while the Blades of Chaos are flaming, the Cyntos takes 2 points of damage. This is in addition to the 1 point of damage in the round.

Gaze of the Enemy (SU):A Cyntos can, after removing the head of a creature with a gaze attack, use the head of the creature to initiate the creature's gaze attack a number of times per day equal to the Cyntos' Wisdom modifier. So long as a Cyntos carries the head of a monster with a gaze attack, the head itself does not decay until the Cyntos has abandoned it or obtained a new head. This ability can only be used with a head that the Cyntos themself have removed. This is a supernatural ability.

Ex-Cyntos
A Cyntos looses all class features, including the Blades of Chaos, if they directly break their oath of fealty to their deity or their Blades of Chaos are broken or destroyed. A Cyntos may not gain any further levels in the class until after they have made up for the breach of trust between themselves and their deity (basically, however a cleric or paladin would go about atonement.)


I've decided that this will be the spellcasting progression for the class, and per recommendations I'll have to agree that Wisdom is a good casting stat to use. The usual requirements apply (must have a Wisdom of 10+X in order to cast a spell of X level).

Spell Progression

lvl: 1st - 2nd - 3rd - 4th
1: 1 - X - X - X
2: 2 - X - X - X
3: 2 - 0 - X - X
4: 2 - 1 - X - X
5: 2 - 2 - 0 - X
6: 2 - 2 - 1 - X
7: 3 - 2 - 1 - 0
8: 3 - 2 - 1 - 1
9: 3 - 2 - 2 - 1
10: 3 - 3 - 2 - 2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:12 pm


Cynder
So I was thinking about making a prestige class for DnD for Kratos from God of War. I know that a gaming magazine stated him out a while back, but I was wanting to actually put something together as a divine class with some limited spell casting (think paladin) with a lot of combat capability, and class features that emulate the Blades of Chaos/Athena. What I want to know is, would those of us that are DnD 3.5 inclined be willing/ would like to help balance and troubleshoot this with me?

Any takers?
I have no experience designing prestige classes, but I'd be willing to help with whatever. 3nodding

Zelyhon
Crew


Harbinger of Pandamonium
Crew

IRL Gekko

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:14 pm


... what are the Blades of Chaos/Athena? sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:28 pm


Zelyhon
Cynder
So I was thinking about making a prestige class for DnD for Kratos from God of War. I know that a gaming magazine stated him out a while back, but I was wanting to actually put something together as a divine class with some limited spell casting (think paladin) with a lot of combat capability, and class features that emulate the Blades of Chaos/Athena. What I want to know is, would those of us that are DnD 3.5 inclined be willing/ would like to help balance and troubleshoot this with me?

Any takers?
I have no experience designing prestige classes, but I'd be willing to help with whatever. 3nodding
I'm wanting to be sure that I'm not getting into the "broken" category.

Cynder
Crew


Cynder
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:30 pm


Arcane Draconum
... what are the Blades of Chaos/Athena? sweatdrop
Krato's main weapons, the huge daggers on the chains that go into his skin.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:32 pm


Cynder
Arcane Draconum
... what are the Blades of Chaos/Athena? sweatdrop
Krato's main weapons, the huge daggers on the chains that go into his skin.
I'm thinking Soulknife variant. sweatdrop swapping psionics for a small range of divine spells.

Harbinger of Pandamonium
Crew

IRL Gekko


Cynder
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:14 pm


Arcane Draconum
Cynder
Arcane Draconum
... what are the Blades of Chaos/Athena? sweatdrop
Krato's main weapons, the huge daggers on the chains that go into his skin.
I'm thinking Soulknife variant. sweatdrop swapping psionics for a small range of divine spells.

I'm still trying to work up exactly how the class' version of the blades of chaos will work, but I do know that some of the entry requirements include the rage class ability, worship of a god with the war domain, and proficiency with either whips or the spiked chain (and drow scorpion chain for the Ebberon setting).
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:38 pm


Boredom strikes! just a quick mock-up of the Blade of Chaos idea. Feel free to use it as a base, or disregard it as lunacy or whatever. biggrin It hasn't been tested and is the conception of a tired brain.


CYNTOS PRESTIGE

Requirements :
Base Attack Bonus: +7 ((+10?))
Feats: Two weapon fighting, Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain or Drow Scorpion Chain) ((Cleave? Weapon Spec?))
Skills: Intimidate 5 ranks
Alignment: Non-good ((Non lawful?))
Special: Must petition a god whose portfolio include the war domain directly. Rage class ability.

Class Skills
Same as fighter
2+Int modifier skill points/level

Class features:
BAB Progression. +1/1
Strong Save: Fortitude
Weak saves: Reflex, Will
HD: D10
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Cyntos gain proficiency with their Blade of Chaos and no additional weapon or armor proficiencies. Blades of Chaos are chain daggers that are attached to the user's forearms. They cannot be removed short of divine intervention or amputation of the limb itself. (See specifications below)

Special abilities
1: Blade of Chaos, Weapon Specialization (Blade of Chaos)
2: Blade of Chaos +1
3: Ignite Blade of Chaos (perhaps a use/day limit?)
4: Blade of Chaos +2
5: Improved Blade of Chaos
6: Blade of Chaos +3
7: Greater Ignite Blade of Chaos
8: Blade of Chaos +4, Keen Blade
10: Blade of Chaos +5, Greater Blade of Chaos

Blade of Chaos : Any and all feats with the Spiked chain also apply to Blade of Chaos. Blade of Chaos is a piercing and slashing melee weapon with a reach of 10’. It deals 1d6 damage at level 1, 1D8 at level 5 and 1D10 at level 10. It has a 19-20 x2 crit range. As a Cyntos progresses in levels, his or her Blades of Chaos become stronger, gaining a +1 enhancement bonus for every two levels and becoming keen at level 8. Each Blade of Chaos weighs 5lbs.
Weapon Specialization (Blade of Chaos) : At first level, if the Cyntos does not already have the appropriate specialization feat, he or she gains this as a bonus feat.
Ignite Blade of Chaos : (A number of times per day?) The wielder may cause one or both of their Blades of Chaos to burst into flame, as though it were a flaming weapon, dealing an additional 1D6 points of fire damage. At 7th level, treat the weapon as though it were a flaming burst weapon.

Harbinger of Pandamonium
Crew

IRL Gekko


Trickster Loki Laufeyson

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:42 pm


Oooh fun. If I get a chance to dig up some of my 3.5 books I'd love to help, especially with cooking up the ritual to fuse the blades. Seems to me that 3.5 loves the hell out of that kind of thing. Rituals to ******** up your character that is. xd
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:43 pm


Lori Zechlin
Oooh fun. If I get a chance to dig up some of my 3.5 books I'd love to help, especially with cooking up the ritual to fuse the blades. Seems to me that 3.5 loves the hell out of that kind of thing. Rituals to ******** up your character that is. xd
3.5 is ugly. But meh. I just downloaded the books to have references. xd

Harbinger of Pandamonium
Crew

IRL Gekko


Cynder
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:03 am


Arcane Draconum
Boredom strikes! just a quick mock-up of the Blade of Chaos idea. Feel free to use it as a base, or disregard it as lunacy or whatever. biggrin It hasn't been tested and is the conception of a tired brain.


CYNTOS PRESTIGE

Requirements :
Base Attack Bonus: +5 ((+10?))
Rage class feature.
Feats: Two weapon fighting, Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain or Drow Scorpion Chain), Weapon Specialization (Spiked Chain or Drow Scorpion Chain).
Skills: Intimidate 5 ranks
Alignment: Any Chaotic or Any Non-Good (?)
Special: Must petition a god whose portfolio include the war domain directly.

Class Skills
Same as fighter
2+Int modifier skill points/level

Class features:
BAB Progression. +1/1
Strong Save: Fortitude
Weak saves: Reflex, Will
HD: D10
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Cyntos gain proficiency with their Blade of Chaos and no additional weapon or armor proficiencies. Blades of Chaos are chain daggers that are attached to the user's forearms. They cannot be removed short of divine intervention or amputation of the limb itself. (See specifications below)

Special abilities
1: Blade of Chaos, Weapon Specialization (Blade of Chaos)
2: Blade of Chaos +1
3: Ignite Blade of Chaos
4: Blade of Chaos +2
5: Improved Blade of Chaos
6: Blade of Chaos +3
7: Greater Ignite Blade of Chaos
8: Blade of Chaos +4, Keen Blade
10: Blade of Chaos +5, Greater Blade of Chaos

Spellcasting: Similar to Paladin progression. Need to work on this.

Blades of Chaos : Any and all feats with the Spiked chain also apply to Blades of Chaos. Blade of Chaos is a piercing and slashing melee weapon with a reach of 10’. It deals 1d6 damage at level 1, 1D8 at level 5 and 1D10 at level 10. It has a 19-20 x2 crit range. As a Cyntos progresses in levels, his or her Blades of Chaos become stronger, gaining a +1 enhancement bonus for every two levels and becoming keen at level 8. Each Blade of Chaos weighs 5lbs.
Greater Blades of Chaos: At level 10, the Blades of Chaos reach extends to 15' and can be used as a floatation device to initiate a grapple. If the grapple attempt fails, the Cyntos' opponent does not get a free trip attempt and the Cyntos does not have to drop the Blades of Chaos.
Weapon Specialization (Blade of Chaos) : At first level, if the Cyntos does not already have the appropriate specialization feat, he or she gains this as a bonus feat.
Ignite Blade of Chaos : The wielder may cause both of their Blades of Chaos to burst into flame, as though it were a flaming weapon, dealing an additional 1D6 points of fire damage. While this ability is activated, the weilder takes 1 point of fire damage per round. This damage can not be prevented in any way. At 7th level, treat the weapon as though it were a flaming burst weapon. On a critical hit while the Blades of Chaos are flaming, the Cyntos takes 2 points of damage. This is in addition to the 1 point of damage in the round.

I like it, and I made some changes, like adding the Greater Blades of Chaos feature that you forgot xd .
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:08 am


I think I was originally intending for it to signify the damage progression, but that works too. 3nodding

Harbinger of Pandamonium
Crew

IRL Gekko


Cynder
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:44 am


Added a new high end ability. Now I want to work on spellcasting... I'm thinking a Paladin/Ranger like progression, or possibly even making spellcasting a pre-req and just adding to existing caster levels. Which sounds better for the class?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:28 pm


Added a possible spellcasting chart that I'm most likely going to go with. also changed the entry requirements slightly (now player swears an oath) and added an "ex-" clause to the class to prevent people from going completely crazy with it.

Cynder
Crew


Zelyhon
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:29 pm


Don't make it a prerequisite. I'd say that for Cyntos, it ought to be based on Charisma, similar to a paladin. Also, all offensive spells, obviously. None of that wimpy defensive magic stuff.
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