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SiretaInDisguise

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:00 am


I'm SiretaInDisguise. I love to make theories smile Theories are fun. I'm sure I'm not the only person here who makes theories, so I figured this would be a nice place to put them all together in one thread!


So bring your theories around lets get cracking!


(Mods, can we sticky this? Pretty please? I love you smile )
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:13 pm


XD Great suggestion.


;-; I love you too mods.

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SiretaInDisguise

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:36 pm


Now, just to get everyone started I"m going to copy and past a theory off of NF. No, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS THEORY, but we need to get started.

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Kushinada is a name a princess from Japanese mythology, specifically the tale of the god Susanoo and the eight-headed serpent Yamata no Orochi that almost devoured her. The name Kushinada has never appeared in the Naruto manga, yet, but given Kishimoto's habit of naming things after myth, it may happen.

Below is a few examples of what I can think of how Kishimoto might use this name:
Jutsu: Kushinada was married to the god Susanoo, who was part of a trio of gods including Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, both names Kishimoto has used for Mangekyou Sharingan doujutsu. Susanoo is assumed to be a third MS jutsu and perhaps Kushinada either a S-Ranked jutsu or a minor MS jutsu.
Person: Sasuke is sometimes compaired to Susanoo. So it is possible Kushinada is a kunoichi, even the kunoichi that Kishi hinted at in an interview, or perhaps a princess. Given her partly means rice paddy, perhaps she is a princess of the Rice Field Country (although it is just as likely the anime team named the country after her).
Weapon: While Kusanagi remained a sword, if gods can be jutsu then perhaps they can be weapons too. Not necessarily a weapon Sasuke would use, but a weapon named after the princess.
Item: In the myth, Susanoo transformed Kushinada into a comb and hid her safely in his hair. It is possible that Kushinada is nothing more than a comb, but we do have one example of where a necklace turned out to be more than a necklace, so perhaps the comb is special too.

Vote and use your imagination over who or what Kishimoto might name Kushinada. Remember, given the name is linked to the death of Yamata no Orochi, it is possible Kishi will link this to Orochimaru's death.
LINK to theory: http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=105306

Its quite obvios Sasuke is Susanoo within the story. Susanoo slayed the Orochi, gained the Kusanagi, went to the "underworld", has siblings called Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, is the god known for thunder (which is one of Sasukes affinities along with fire), is associated with "heaven" (Sasuke has the "heavenly eyes"--quoted from databook, and heaven seal). The 3 treasures of Orochi are associated with him as well when he brought the 3 treasures to reconcile with Amaterasu:
-The Magatama beads represent the tomoe marks in his sharingan, and the shape of his "heaven" seal
- The Yata no Kagami (the mirror)- represents the Sharingan or the "copy wheel eye"
-Kusanagi- this one should be obvious

One of sasuke's goals is to revive his clan, along with killing itachi. We now know that Sasuke was lying when he said he would give oro his body, and that he was lying when he said he forgot about everyone else and his bonds. So now there's no more excuse by people to state that sasuke forgot about his other most important goal. In japanese culture, honoring the clan is the most important thing, and the things such an avenger as Sasuke is to do is to revive the clan and avenge their deaths.

Karin comes from Orochimaru, and is the person people have predicted sasuke would be with since people have always stated that Konoha women wouldn't be associated with him. People also said that unless if Sasuke met someone else during the timeskip, then his only choice was Sakura. Well, since we see this chapter, the choices left are Sasuke/Karin or Sasuke/Sakura to revive the clan. Karin comes from Orochimaru as well.

And does anyone think Kishi will sidle up such a job to Sakura as making babies for Uchiha? Not if shes meant to surpass Tsunade no. Also, it would possibly hurt the theme of the Sannin.

Karin resembles Itachis and Sasuke's mother, Mikoto Uchiha (judging from her hair and the color of her hair, along with the body shape). If her form is very similar to Mikoto-san when we finally see her then you can pretty much say that this theory now has a 100 percent chance of happening. Men instinctively look to marry women like their mothers due to Oedipus conflict.

The final point is that Kishimoto would not forget such an important goal of clan revival for Sasuke. There's no way he's gonna do artifical insemnation (please don't even argue it since that would just be a joke), and the only other choice is Sakura. The chance that he'll end up with no one at this point is slim to none.

Since i believe Naru/saku or Lee/saku has a better chance of happening at this point, it seems Sasuke/karin has the most chance of happening. However I acknowlege that Sasu/saku has a chance of happening as well. I believe that the one who will represent Kushinada within the story will be sasuke's bride, and if Sakura somehow manages to be it, then that's what will happen.

Thank you for reading my post.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:07 am


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So it is possible Kushinada is a kunoichi, even the kunoichi that Kishi hinted at in an interview, or perhaps a princess. Given her partly means rice paddy, perhaps she is a princess of the Rice Field Country




-Hmmm, if the poster of that theory might have a link to where kishi hints on the kunoichi.

-But her being a princess , nowhere in the myth says that Kushinada was a princess.

This is right from the myth -
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where he met an elderly couple. Seven of their eight daughters had been devoured by the eight-headed serpent Yamata-no-Orochi and it was about to come for the eighth, Kushinada-hime

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Hime (Japanese: kanji 姫, hiragana ひめ) is the Japanese word for princess or a lady or higher birth or class. It is initially referred to any beautiful female. The antonym of hime is shikome(醜女), literally ugly female, though it is archaic and rarely used. Hime may also indicate feminine or simply small when used together with other words, such as Hime-gaki (a low line of hedge).


i don't think she was a princes and there won't be a female kunoichi with that name. (I may be wrong.)
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Karin resembles Itachis and Sasuke's mother, Mikoto Uchiha (judging from her hair and the color of her hair, along with the body shape). If her form is very similar to Mikoto-san when we finally see her then you can pretty much say that this theory now has a 100 percent chance of happening. Men instinctively look to marry women like their mothers due to Oedipus conflict.


Hmmm, just by judging from a black and white panel heir hair color is just like mitoko-san and also her body stare . Geee...im going to date a girl that looks exactly like my mom or be married to a woman that looks like my mom; even if they act like my mom ( From my view that is sooooooooo false.) maybe sasuke will have an emotional break down if she resembles his deceased mother....damn you itachi!!! I give this theory a 5% chance of happening.

If Karin/mitoko look alike has an attitude like tayuya; i say this theory of happening goes to 0%.


It's still too early to have a pairing/theory of them both.

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SiretaInDisguise

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:18 am


hehehe, thanks for the response (I think you said exactly what I had been feeling on the subject. Imagine my face when I saw that thread!)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:32 am


SiretaInDisguise

hehehe, thanks for the response (I think you said exactly what I had been feeling on the subject. Imagine my face when I saw that thread!)


Shocked? That's how I was when that theory sprung up in NF. Geeesh, right after raw they pair sasuke with karin.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:59 pm


Sasuke was immediatelypaired off with Suigetsu as well-- anything to get him out of the way of other pairings, I suppose XD
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:01 pm


Probably there going to pair sasuke with juugo. You never know when a thread like that may pop up in NF.

Quote:
One of sasuke's goals is to revive his clan, along with killing itachi. We now know that Sasuke was lying when he said he would give oro his body, and that he was lying when he said he forgot about everyone else and his bonds. So now there's no more excuse by people to state that sasuke forgot about his other most important goal. In japanese culture, honoring the clan is the most important thing, and the things such an avenger as Sasuke is to do is to revive the clan and avenge their deaths.

Karin comes from Orochimaru, and is the person people have predicted sasuke would be with since people have always stated that Konoha women wouldn't be associated with him. People also said that unless if Sasuke met someone else during the timeskip, then his only choice was Sakura. Well, since we see this chapter, the choices left are Sasuke/Karin or Sasuke/Sakura to revive the clan. Karin comes from Orochimaru as well.


Hmmm, so im going to believe what other people just say about konoha woman not being suited well for sasuke; did kishi say that in a interview. That may also include sakura because she is from konoha.

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Itachi had lost hope for the clan because it assumed it was great, this is why the kohona police assumed they were stronger then itachi when they confronted him. Hence, this is why itachi said that they made assumptions on him without even measuring their own capabilities first. They all believe they are great. Itachi wanted to see how good he was, and who better to test his abilities on then the clan who thinks it is great
....damn you itachi.

Were they weak because they married outside of konoha women or married konoha women and to me that is just an excuse to kill the sasusaku pair.

So, it doesn't mean that sasuke will not be with konoha women(sakura).

Like many of us know that sakura is waiting with open arms and he knows it. He just needs to kill itachi then he can finally put his avenging side of him to rest and try to live a normal life. He did not cut his bonds like he said.

Only thing I agree with is just the myth and the rest I don't believe.

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Tenshi no Hana-chan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:06 am


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No. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in their right mind would pair Sasuke with someone whom they haven't even actually SEEN yet. Gawd. Where do people get these things anyway?

I don't agree with the fact that SasukeKarin is the most plausible pairing with Sasuke involved. Hell, I think SasukeNaruto is a lot more plausible than the aforementioned pairing. I think that associating Karin with the myth is wayyyy too much overreaching. Seeing as the author of the theory is a biased fan (well, we all are, but I'm going to use the fact as leverage anyway) I think that he/she is just using up all excuses not to let Sasuke and Sakura get together.

But if Sasuke's chances of not ending up with someone are slim to none, I can only say that only SAKURA'S got a major chance. This Karin girl hasn't even been shown, let alone played a part in the story. How can the author claim that Karin even looks remotely like Mikoto? And as for what he said about the Oedipus complex, men look for women who are alike with their mothers in PERSONALITY, not in looks. Sasuke looks disturbingly like his mother - don't you think it would be weird to marry someone who looks a lot like your mother, who looks like you?

And has there been any emotional connection between Sasuke and Karin? No, I don't believe so - Karin has been stationed in a far-off place and I doubt they got too much interaction in these few years. I believe that what Sasuke wants from Karin is her service as a shinobi.

So to heck with that theory. I agree that Sasuke displays many similarities to Susanoo, and I agree that Kishi-sensei uses a lot of elements from Jap myths and folklore, but comparing ANY girl to that "princess" in the story is waaaay too farfetched. Not even Sakura can measure up. (Not that, of course, I'd hate for it to happen.)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:40 am


Well, we now know that Karin is --apparently-- a Sasuke fangril. Which worries me. Greatly. *lost her SasuSaku fandom after seeing the spoiler pics* gonk

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:03 am


I shouldn't have posted the spoiler pics but sooner or later you may have seen them.

Don't lose hope yet SiretaInDisguise, there have been many times when I have almost gave up on sasusaku but I stayed strong. Until I see sasuke say/do anything to karin in a flirtatious way then I may panic but that won't happen knowing sasuke.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:49 am


Lonely_Black_Wolf
I shouldn't have posted the spoiler pics but sooner or later you may have seen them.

Don't lose hope yet SiretaInDisguise, there have been many times when I have almost gave up on sasusaku but I stayed strong. Until I see sasuke say/do anything to karin in a flirtatious way then I may panic but that won't happen knowing sasuke.


I'm mostly worried about the OBVIOUS things that are coming. The theories. The debates. IT'S GOIGN TO DRIVE ME UP A WALL.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:21 pm


SiretaInDisguise


I'm mostly worried about the OBVIOUS things that are coming. The theories. The debates. IT'S GOIGN TO DRIVE ME UP A WALL.


Yup, I can sense a storm coming this way and it ain't going to be pretty.

The theories that they create are only going to have the Japaneses mythology of Susanoo and Kushinada(they mostly try to use that as evidence.) and a few panels of karin going ga-ga for sasuke. But sasuke will be turning her down in every attempt that may come up.

I know that what people post of this pairing may be....uncomfortable to believe but we gotta face the truth that they are trying to wedge in karin between sasuke and sakura. By doing that hurt our fandom.

To me I don't think karin as a threat for sasusaku.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:33 pm


It's pretty easy to counter any argument they bring up supporting SasuKarin:

Uchiha Sasuke Himself
"Give me some space."


And that was with a "Stop slobbering all over me, b***h" look.

SasuKarin ain't gonna happen. Although anything can right now, plot buildup for Sakura's story will go down the drain if SasuKarin happens. It's pretty obvious to me that Sasuke's much more interested with Karin's abilities than her appeal as a woman.

I just wish Sasuke was interested in Sakura's abilities as well as her appeal.

Tenshi no Hana-chan


SiretaInDisguise

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:09 am


Tenshi no Hana-chan
It's pretty easy to counter any argument they bring up supporting SasuKarin:

Uchiha Sasuke Himself
"Give me some space."


And that was with a "Stop slobbering all over me, b***h" look.

SasuKarin ain't gonna happen. Although anything can right now, plot buildup for Sakura's story will go down the drain if SasuKarin happens. It's pretty obvious to me that Sasuke's much more interested with Karin's abilities than her appeal as a woman.

I just wish Sasuke was interested in Sakura's abilities as well as her appeal.


Well, for all we know, the Uchiha just needed a woman in his team because he'd feel weird without one-- his team in Konoha was himself, 2 boys and a girl. so this time around, it's him, two guys and a chick. Sasuke's never been on a team without a woman. Poor guy woudln't know what the hell to think. He needs some estrogen in his life.
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