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 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:23 pm
If we can only talk about the WWE here we might as well talk about the bad side of it and not just the good.
John Cena. His title reign has been far too long, he's no Bruno Sammartino. His finisher the F-U is a simple Fireman's Carry. A Death Valley Driver which is similar looking to an F-U looks much more painful and would be more believable to put away his opponents. Now not only does he have five moves of a maximum, he has no ring psychology, making his matches very bland, repetitive and boring. He is sub-par on the microphone, he's no Khali but he's no CM Punk either. As I've always like to say the man has twenty catchphrases and five moves. Now some of this may be the bookers fault but we can't put all the blame on them.
Story-lines. Now I'm clueless. When I turn on a wrestling show the last thing I want to see is a story-line where Eddie Guerrero is the real father of Rey's son which is a lie in of itself. Katie Vick with Kane? Or Rey using Eddie's name to win the title. How can you respect a title reign where the only reason WWE pushed him is because Eddie died? I'd be ashamed to admit that were true.
Gimmicks. Some are good, some. Undertaker, Kane, Edge, they are entertaining. Boogeyman I find entertaining as well but it's not great. Now some of the bad ones. John Cena. The rapper was good or mildly entertaining. But this whole Marine junk is disrespectful IMO. Because he played one in a movie he pretends to be one in real life? You don't see Nicholas Cage lighting his head on fire and riding a tricycle and claiming he's Ghost Rider just cause he played him. Doink The Clown? Eugene? Hulk Hogan? C'mon.
There's several more but I think this is reasonable to start with.
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:14 pm
To continue your list:
Sucky Champions: If Cena deserves the WWE Title, then I'm a ballerina named Brittney. Batista is boring as well. He's just a meathead with absolutely no tactics. Melina isn't worth s**t as a wrestler. Umaga has 3 moves. He isn't meant to be the IC Champion. Cena and HBK? Dude their styles are completely different. Cena's suckiness rubs off on Shawn when they're in a match together. Chavo Guerrero is an Eddie wannabe. The other two championships are the only two who are worth anything.
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:01 pm
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hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch?
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:28 pm
jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Well there is more to wrestling than what you just stated. There are also still some good matches going on. For example Chris Benoit vs Finlay was a four star match at the least. Then there is Gregory Helms putting on great matches as well And the Cena hate thing is because people would like to see an actual WRESTLER hold the WWE title. Not some guy who just clotheslines his oppoent like ten times, shoulder block, Random suplex, spin out power bomb, Five knuckle shuffle, F-U and an optional STFU. He has the most predictable matches ever. And on a few occasions Cena himself said he is a horrible wrestler. The only reason he is holding the title is because he sells merchandise. Also he is screwing people over who actually deserve the title. Pretty much he's Hulk Hogan #2 he has the ability to be famous and not know what talent is.
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:20 pm
Cena is good on the mic, don't make a mistake about that. But he lacks talent when it comes to wrestling. Edge, in my opinion, was a better champion. He might have average mic skills, but he is an amazing wrestler. If we could get Edge and Cena to blend together, the result would be scary. And on Shawn Michaels and Cena as tag champs, I would rather see the Spirit Squad back in the spot. Yes, I said it. I also like Booker as the World Heavyweight Champion better, he's fun to watch, and puts on a good show. In my opinion, RVD is probably the best wrestler in WWE right now. He always keeps you guessing in his matches, and knows what he's doing when it comes to promos.
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:19 pm
jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:09 am
Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. I am not A GAY nor A LESBIAN or BI!!!!!! scream scream I am a GIRL. . . WHy HATE me just because I like HIM?!?!?!? xp ITS NOT GOOD to HATE people YOu haven't even met. . . crying and I don't idolize him just because he looks good ya know. . . gonk I f he is that bad of wrestler,tell me how he defeated BIG SHOW one time?!?!?and Umaga?!?!?those two are really,really scary. . .
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:34 am
Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. that was a little over bored dont u think? u dont know even know her hell i dont even know her but i dont hate her everybody has their own opinions hell i like John Cena so u probably hate me i dont care like i said we all have our own opinions so please just get along
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:06 am
jmkg_kakashi Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. I am not A GAY nor A LESBIAN or BI!!!!!! scream scream I am a GIRL. . . WHy HATE me just because I like HIM?!?!?!? xp ITS NOT GOOD to HATE people YOu haven't even met. . . crying and I don't idolize him just because he looks good ya know. . . gonk I f he is that bad of wrestler,tell me how he defeated BIG SHOW one time?!?!?and Umaga?!?!?those two are really,really scary. . . The reason the last part of your argument means nothing is because WWE could make it so Michael Cole could beat them. The only skill in the WWE is the skill that makes matches look good, and being good on the mic. Cena lacks the in-ring skills...but man is he good on the mic.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:33 pm
jmkg_kakashi Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. I am not A GAY nor A LESBIAN or BI!!!!!! scream scream I am a GIRL. . . WHy HATE me just because I like HIM?!?!?!? xp ITS NOT GOOD to HATE people YOu haven't even met. . . crying and I don't idolize him just because he looks good ya know. . . gonk I f he is that bad of wrestler,tell me how he defeated BIG SHOW one time?!?!?and Umaga?!?!?those two are really,really scary. . . I hate you because people like you are the reason the WWE championship belongs to a wannabe-marine simian. It's nothing personal. I'm just a hateful person. And now to disprove your point. PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING IS ACTING! He didn't actually beat anyone because it wasn't real fighting. In the history of WWE there have only been 5 legit matches, and John Cena wasn't in any of them. Hell, if McMahon felt like it, he could make Eugene beat the Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, and the Great Khali in a handicap match! (of course, that'd be the point when everyone stops watching WWE.) And the sad part is that you're not the only one who has said that about Cena. If I hear one more person saying that John Cena beat Big Show and Umaga, I'm gonna freaking snap!
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:42 pm
HardyBoyzFan619 Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. that was a little over bored dont u think? u dont know even know her hell i dont even know her but i dont hate her everybody has their own opinions hell i like John Cena so u probably hate me i dont care like i said we all have our own opinions so please just get along I don't hate you. I don't hate everyone that likes John Cena. I just hate her/him because of the way she is arguing against common sense. You may like Cena but you gotta admit, he's horribly predictable, and extremely boring most of the time. Even Cena himself has said it, he's a horrible wrestler. 5 moves, 50 taunts, 5,000 insults, 0 wrestling skill.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:08 pm
Kazuma Akimoto HardyBoyzFan619 Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. that was a little over bored dont u think? u dont know even know her hell i dont even know her but i dont hate her everybody has their own opinions hell i like John Cena so u probably hate me i dont care like i said we all have our own opinions so please just get along I don't hate you. I don't hate everyone that likes John Cena. I just hate her/him because of the way she is arguing against common sense. You may like Cena but you gotta admit, he's horribly predictable, and extremely boring most of the time. Even Cena himself has said it, he's a horrible wrestler. 5 moves, 50 taunts, 5,000 insults, 0 wrestling skill. thanks for not hating me but i think John Cena is a good wrestler he gets boring somtimes but not all the time but yea everybody has there own opinions
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:56 pm
Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi Kazuma Akimoto jmkg_kakashi . . . . . . hey just one question to both of ya. . .if ya think WWE only has SOME are good gimmicks and you think the champs are bad, why watch? . . . . . . I dunno why many people are hating john cena right now. . . Simple. Because Cena sucks. He's a retarded monkey who does nothing but talk crap and throw his feces in people's faces. He can;t wrestle for s**t. Here is Cena's matches..... every match: Lock-up, headlock, gets pushed aginst ropes, clothesline, gets his a** handed to him for a while, suddenly gets back up, spin out powerbomb, 5-Knuckle Shuffle. Here is where there's actually some change. Sometimes, STFU. Other times, he waits for the guy to get up, then F-U, followed by pin. That's every match. Then either he wins, or he gets interupted by someone else, then gets his a** kicked, comes back the next show and same thing happens. See how much he sucks? Just because either you're gay, bi, or a girl, you think that he's hot doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. In fact, the only reason he's the champ is because of people like you who only care about how they look instead of how good they are. I hate you. I am not A GAY nor A LESBIAN or BI!!!!!! scream scream I am a GIRL. . . WHy HATE me just because I like HIM?!?!?!? xp ITS NOT GOOD to HATE people YOu haven't even met. . . crying and I don't idolize him just because he looks good ya know. . . gonk I f he is that bad of wrestler,tell me how he defeated BIG SHOW one time?!?!?and Umaga?!?!?those two are really,really scary. . . I hate you because people like you are the reason the WWE championship belongs to a wannabe-marine simian. It's nothing personal. I'm just a hateful person. And now to disprove your point. PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING IS ACTING! He didn't actually beat anyone because it wasn't real fighting. In the history of WWE there have only been 5 legit matches, and John Cena wasn't in any of them. Hell, if McMahon felt like it, he could make Eugene beat the Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, and the Great Khali in a handicap match! (of course, that'd be the point when everyone stops watching WWE.) And the sad part is that you're not the only one who has said that about Cena. If I hear one more person saying that John Cena beat Big Show and Umaga, I'm gonna freaking snap! hell yeah, I know Professional Wrestling is acting,I 'm not stupid ya know. . . hey, I'm not saying Cena is not a bad wrestler nor the best. . . but still, I like him. . . he is to me, a bit over average in wrestling, but his matches are a bit boring sometimes. . .but his mic skills are good. . . I haven't watched wresling for over 3-4 years ya know. . .so I don't get that bored in his matches. . . even if you hate Cena and me,I will not despise you because I don't even know you!and that's your personal opinion. . .I can't argue with that. . . I think I'll stop this debate with you. . .
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:02 pm
samething with hogan i have his dvd and every match dosethe same thing the finger movements then the oponet hits him a couple of times then starts shakeing his head then gets up starts walking around shakeing then hits them then flings the guy into the ropes knocks them down then hits them with the leg drop the pins the guys same thing in all of his big matches
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