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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:47 am
First, in my experience, there might not always be a bigger fish, but there's always a worse movie. There IS no "worst" movie, due to the combination of subjective experience and different types of bad.
With that in mind, what would be prime your choice for each of the bad categories, and which among those would you select as the worst movie you have ever seen?
Tainting Bad: Some movies are grim and gritty, but these are lewd in a way that simply surpasses german porn sexual awfulness and enters a new territory. Regardless of production values, these movies leave you wanting to clean your skin with lava soap and a brillo pad. Examples: Hobgoblins, where the generic whore girl has contrived to wear such a garment that it would actually be less sickeningly suggestive if she was stark naked. The Swinging Cheerleaders, from "The 50 worst movies of all time". Also from the 50 Worst Movies of All Time, Galaxy of Terror, which tries to titilate audiences by having a worm-like alien rape a girl.
Campy Bad: You know this. There are microphone shadows, the monster is a guy with a cardboard box on his head, and the sky wobbles whenever somebody stomps their feet. This is often accompanied by another kind of badness. Examples: Robot Monster, Goliath vs. The Dragon (non-MST3K, but worth the mention), Plan 9 From Outer Space
WTF Bad: These are movies where Bruce Lee's half-angel cousin teams up with the ghost of alien cyborg frankenstien to fight zombie santa from the phantom zone. There is a general incongruity, suspension of disbelief snaps like a toothpick diaroma under a waterlogged sumo wrestler, and disparate elements are introduced with little or no explanation. Also can apply to movies that can't decide what movie they are, and introduce a number of thematic elements without follow up. Examples: Wild World of Batwoman, Frankenstein Conquers the World
Gorilla Suit Bad: Any movie involving a Gorilla suit. Frequently overlaps with Incomplete bad and Campy bad. Examples: Robot Monster, The Ape, Teenage Zombies
Hollywood Bad: Every big-name actor is payed their weight in uranium (all 89 pounds of it), the special effects sear across the screen to scorch unprepared retinas, production values go through the roof, money is siphoned in from other areas, but all is a in vain. There are some good actors, but this is weakened by the crappy dialouge their forced to recite. It only draw attention to the flaws in the main actors, who always manage to take up the protagonists and leading roles. The light of quality only makes the gaping plotholes, weak dialogue, flat characters, and over-recycled mediocrity more apparent. Examples: Dungeons and Dragons, X-Men 3, Anything by Uwel Bowl
The Void These are movies with little or no plot, action, character, or anything. They are a semi-sentient nullity that echoes across the screen, draining life from your veins and diluting your soul through your eyeballs. They would not drive a man to suicide, but they might make him die by virtue of convincing him it's not worth the effort to keep drawing breath. These are films of astounding, shocking dullness and drab mundanity, cinemas that you would have to colorize merely to make them grey. Examples: Anything by coleman francis, especially "The Beast of Yucca Flats", Invasion of the Neptune Men
Incomplete Bad These movies don't exactly have weak plots, acting, production values, so much as one or more of these elements is entirely lacking. Maybe they're a plotless succession of passionately acted and well-produced but seemingly unconnected scenes. Maybe the director had a hissy fit so the filming crew decided to work without him. Maybe parts of the film just don't click, there's some bio-engineered monster but it's never clear which member of the cast or prop is supposed to be the monster in question. Whatever it is, there's some key element lacking that would be needed to make this a "Motion Picture". Examples: Wild World of Batwoman, Most things by coleman francis, Bride of the Monster
Pointless Bad These are movies that started with an awful premise, and some hollywood bigwig, still hung over and coming down from a cocaine-high, said "let's do it!" The idea itself, not the cast, crew, or creators, is the thing that is wrong. Often overlaps with Campy bad or Hollywood bad. Examples: Cocktail, The Starfighters, Crossroads
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:57 am
The only movies I can think of at the moment are Brother's Grimm and Black Snake Moan...
Which actually are more "WTF? I don't get what's going on... Do I like this movie? Do I hate this movie? I don't know how I feel!"
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:49 am
I think that Black Snake Moan would win the aware for "Non-x rated movie with the most porn sounding name". I have only a limited understanding of its contents, as I saw the movie trailer with the mute button on.
As for Brothers Grimm, I thought there were some good parts of it, but put together it simply didn't work.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:15 am
Fuzzy Necromancer I think that Black Snake Moan would win the aware for "Non-x rated movie with the most porn sounding name". I have only a limited understanding of its contents, as I saw the movie trailer with the mute button on. As for Brothers Grimm, I thought there were some good parts of it, but put together it simply didn't work. I still never understood the friggin' title, other than when Samuel L. Jackson, Laz, sings a song about it... but I was so lost by that point.
Black Snake Moan probably is one of the most sexually charged, might as well have just gone and made it a porno movies out there... or perhaps I'm sheltered. Christina Ricci's character, Rae, runs around topless and pantsless most of the time. And the entire time you just wonder why they chose to put Justin Timberlake in the movie at all sweatdrop
I enjoyed parts of Brother's Grimm, it was ridiculous... and some of the stuff is way too creepy, though. And my friend and I scoured the credits for a "No animals were harmed in the making of this film" and we never saw one. I was so sad, I mean... wtf was the point of the part with the kitten and crap?
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:49 pm
Don't know about those two movies. Never seen either of them. Wanted to see The Brothers Grimm though. Thought it might be an ok movie at least. But you want bad, I have another category for you. "So bad you lose IQ points watching it" bad.
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist
Yes, I watched that awful movie. The talking tounge, the kung fu fight with the cow and the matrix rip off "bullet time" milk shooting scene. It was like watching every kung fu movie gone bad rolled into one and left the taste of sour milk in your mouth!
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:21 pm
How many catagories of bad can a movie fulfill? I'm pretty sure Space Mutiny falls under Tainting, Campy, Void, Incomplete, and Pointless. Of course, that doesn't stop me from watching it. In fact, I think I enjoy seeing how horrible bad movies can get more than watching the good ones.
And don't get me started on Eight Legged Freaks. I'm still trying to find out whether or not it was bad on purpose.
Also, I'm ashamed to say that I actually used to like Super Mario Brothers. Looking back now, I'm just kicking myself in the arse. "Sorry Mario, but your movie is in another castle."
Breaking away from the dregs of filmography, everyone should go see Ghost Rider. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:31 pm
Diego the Incubus Breaking away from the dregs of filmography, everyone should go see Ghost Rider. 3nodding I wanna see that movie. xd
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:17 pm
[ELK] Diego the Incubus Breaking away from the dregs of filmography, everyone should go see Ghost Rider. 3nodding I wanna see that movie. xd Go see it now! Except for the fact that the villan characters look nothing like the comic (kind of impossible due to the complexity of their designs), this movie was spot on with the comic. I also enjoyed the biblical referances. There are lots of them, so stay sharp.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:24 pm
Diego the Incubus How many catagories of bad can a movie fulfill? I'm pretty sure Space Mutiny falls under Tainting, Campy, Void, Incomplete, and Pointless. Of course, that doesn't stop me from watching it. In fact, I think I enjoy seeing how horrible bad movies can get more than watching the good ones. And don't get me started on Eight Legged Freaks. I'm still trying to find out whether or not it was bad on purpose. Also, I'm ashamed to say that I actually used to like Super Mario Brothers. Looking back now, I'm just kicking myself in the arse. "Sorry Mario, but your movie is in another castle." Breaking away from the dregs of filmography, everyone should go see Ghost Rider. 3nodding Ugh. I have to agree about Eight Legged Freaks and Super Mario Bros. I mean, spiders.......they did that one with Arachniphobia(sp?)!!! Why beat the proverbial dead horse? And Mario.........sad, but they had to go there. Let's be glad Link, Samus, and several others haven't gotten movies yet, although they might be better with the better special effect compared to what was available for the Mario Bros. movie. (nice play off that old bit from the original mario game btw)
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:21 pm
Locke_Dirks Don't know about those two movies. Never seen either of them. Wanted to see The Brothers Grimm though. Thought it might be an ok movie at least. But you want bad, I have another category for you. "So bad you lose IQ points watching it" bad. Kung Pow: Enter the Fist Yes, I watched that awful movie. The talking tounge, the kung fu fight with the cow and the matrix rip off "bullet time" milk shooting scene. It was like watching every kung fu movie gone bad rolled into one and left the taste of sour milk in your mouth! I... don't think we can be friends anymore.
HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU HATE THAT MOVIE?!
You miss the entire point of it, it's making fun of typical bad kung-fu movie. That's like the people complaining that the talking is out of sinc...when it's supposed to be.
I bought that movie soon after I saw it (I had rented it originally) and I cherished it and watched it 80 times 'til I lost it when I loaned it to a friend... I can't wait to buy it again crying My friends and I are going to have a Kung Pow day someday soon.Diego the Incubus Breaking away from the dregs of filmography, everyone should go see Ghost Rider. 3nodding Now I saw Ghost Rider, and I have to ask what actually makes it a good movie? Definately not something I'd reccomend as anything other than a distraction and not wholly painful movie to watch. There is nothing spectacular about that movie.
Although I'm not going to lie, the pun usage in that movie was so bad, I wanted to die. It really shouldn't be legal. My co-workers laughed when they overheard me telling somebody how it hurt my soul, they were so bad.
No, the movie wasn't bad... I enjoyed it... but other than random senseless destruction and flames and motorcycles... what made it an actual good movie? The story? Not bad, I guess.... other than some loop-holes I noticed. The acting? Not that amazing. The things blowing up? I guess that's it, because I've had so many people tell me it's a great movie and I tend to get that reaction out of them when it comes to any movie with things exploding.
Of the movies that have been out recently that are still out (at least at my theater, as it's the only place I go), really good ones I'd have to reccomend Music and Lyrics which I realize is a chick movie, but it's funny, the acting is pretty good, the music is well done and it's a good/cute story... and slightly more original than some of the romantic movies I've seen. Breach was pretty good... slow in some places. Because I Said so was good... some of the acting was so amazing, I actually wanted to punch Diane Keaton's character because her acting as an opressive mother reminded me of mine. Yet again, another movie more intended for girls I suppose, but I really enjoyed it. And Black Snake Moan... which is one of those movies where you can't tell if it's good or bad, you just have to describe as weird. The acting was fantastic, the story was more original, it had good humour, but it made no ******** sense overall.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:32 pm
I liked Black Snake Moan myself. Then again, I like Southern themed movies that aren't overly cliche. =B
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:38 am
Sergius I liked Black Snake Moan myself. Then again, I like Southern themed movies that aren't overly cliche. =B Yeah, the more I have time to think about it, the more I realize I did like it 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:30 pm
I am bias towards Brothers Grimm, the film itself was a pile of turtle droppings.. But.. My bestfriend, her boyfriend, myself and my (then not yet) boyfriend all went to see it.. Anywho, about 2hours later Matt asked me out. So I always link that film with him asking me out. >.<
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:06 pm
I did just get back from seeing 300 and it was better than I expected.
Still more gory than I like, but pretty good for a violent movie. I also liked the story pretty well, too.
Plus, Gerard Butler and that guy that narrates are hot as well as a few of the younger actors (I'm officially old, I check out the old guys gonk )
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:46 pm
Red Zone Cuba is the worst movie of all time. It should win awards for sucking so bad.
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