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 Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:31 am
Other then the war how accurately do you think the writers of ghost in the shell have pegged us as far is future society and net usage goes. I mean some people all ready spend there whole lives on line and no one can say that it hasn't changed the way every one lives, we in this very guild are proof of that. So how do you think it's gonna be if cyber brains become a reality? I would love to here the thoughts of some of my more esteemed colleges on this one.
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:49 am
Awwww come on where are my have thinkers that I love so much? Togusa?
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:59 pm
A lot of the more outlandish technology is actually in development. It's very very rudimentary, but still there.
Also if you consider how exponentially computer technology has grown, such growth wouldn't be far fetched. People thought it would plateau off during the 70s and it hasn't tapered off yet.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:55 pm
Did someone call me? mrgreen
Cyber brains. Hmm. Such a complex subject...
IMHO, I don't think cyber-brains will ever become a reality. There would be so much physical alteration, plus rewiring of nerves to function with the brain. It makes sense that having an entirely new segment of a brain added would cause a massive change in...well...everything.
Even interpersonal communication would be different. And given possible infections on the remaining tissue that coexists with the new inorganic components by viruses, there'd have to be some method for locating and safely containing/deleting them. Otherwise they could be just as bad as, say, encephalitis or a brain tumor.
And not to mention cyber-brain sclerosis which could be a possible illness.
But to humor your thoughts, i'd say cyber-brains would be a frightening change for humankind. In Gits, cyber-brain and the 'full-body prosthetic technology' was already available in the year 2030, give or take a few years.
But in reality, if such technology were to be obtained, it would be far, FAR away into the future. The year 3000 sounds more reasonable than 2031.
People interacting through their thoughts resembling telepathy, surfing the net, hacking into other people's minds, ghost-hackings. Wow. Frightening change or technological advancement indeed. *Nods*
Even though i do not think it's possible, i shouldn't completely rule out cyber-brains becoming real. Human beings are capable of so many things. surprised
I'd really like to know more about your thoughts on this, Leto. And everyone else for that matter. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:48 pm
Togusa` Did someone call me? mrgreen Cyber brains. Hmm. Such a complex subject...IMHO, I don't think cyber-brains will ever become a reality. There would be so much physical alteration, plus rewiring of nerves to function with the brain. It makes sense that having an entirely new segment of a brain added would cause a massive change in...well...everything. Even interpersonal communication would be different. And given possible infections on the remaining tissue that coexists with the new inorganic components by viruses, there'd have to be some method for locating and safely containing/deleting them. Otherwise they could be just as bad as, say, encephalitis or a brain tumor. And not to mention cyber-brain sclerosis which could be a possible illness. But to humor your thoughts, i'd say cyber-brains would be a frightening change for humankind. In Gits, cyber-brain and the 'full-body prosthetic technology' was already available in the year 2030, give or take a few years. But in reality, if such technology were to be obtained, it would be far, FAR away into the future. The year 3000 sounds more reasonable than 2031. People interacting through their thoughts resembling telepathy, surfing the net, hacking into other people's minds, ghost-hackings. Wow. Frightening change or technological advancement indeed. *Nods* Even though i do not think it's possible, i shouldn't completely rule out cyber-brains becoming real. Human beings are capable of so many things. surprised I'd really like to know more about your thoughts on this, Leto. And everyone else for that matter. 3nodding Have you ever heard of Moore's Law? It's that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit for minimum component cost doubles every 24 months http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_lawThat's what I was talking about previously. They thought it would taper off in the 70s. It's held strong up until now and one can only assume it will continue to do so. I think Moore's Law holds more weight to the likelyhood of Gits-like technology than anything else.
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:17 pm
AnimeLily Have you ever heard of Moore's Law? It's that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit for minimum component cost doubles every 24 months http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_lawThat's what I was talking about previously. They thought it would taper off in the 70s. It's held strong up until now and one can only assume it will continue to do so. I think Moore's Law holds more weight to the likelihood of Gits-like technology than anything else. NYA. You lost me, Lily. gonk Moore's law? I tried reading thorough that article but i don't get it. Is it about hard drive capacity and circuitry? confused And how is it related to Gits? (forgive my lack of knowledge. >///< )
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:17 am
 First let say very well thought out responses on all parts and I do intend to reply to Togusa's in particular in greater detail. But initial when I posted this topic I didint mean souly based on cyber brains. In the ghost in the shell novel that I own the major comments on how life in cities is dictated pretty much by the net. Meaning people in cities rely so heavily on the net for many form of social interaction that it causes them to with draw to it. People begin to feel more comfortable there and draw away from real world personal interaction so even though every one is pretty much clumped together there all strangers to the real world and each other. Of course this is just my take on the majors words. But how realistic or accurate an asesmeant of the future do you think that is with or with out cyber brains? I personally believe it to be pretty on the money even if it is only speculation. Our internet is no where near as advanced as theres and still people more so young people or people that exhibit certain social distinctions have many forms of this behavior all ready. The internet is no longer just a place for businesses and social outcast even though the latter is still the primary inhabitant. Myspace bridged a connection between nations and even our own country connecting people state to state city to city that never would have met had it not been for the site. Even causing some people to seek acceptance on the net first before moving towards real world interaction. 
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:47 pm
[Pandemon] AnimeLily Have you ever heard of Moore's Law? It's that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit for minimum component cost doubles every 24 months http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_lawThat's what I was talking about previously. They thought it would taper off in the 70s. It's held strong up until now and one can only assume it will continue to do so. I think Moore's Law holds more weight to the likelihood of Gits-like technology than anything else. NYA. You lost me, Lily. gonk Moore's law? I tried reading thorough that article but i don't get it. Is it about hard drive capacity and circuitry? confused And how is it related to Gits? (forgive my lack of knowledge. >///< ) Essentially what it means is that processors get twice as fast and twice as small every 24 months. Hard drive capacity increase has followed a similar pattern. What I mean by this, is that if you understand the the projection of Moore's law on future technology (that computers will get twice as small and fast and with twice as much memory every 2 years) the technology in GitS isn't that far fetched. It's 23 years til 2030. If technology doubles every two years that means it will double 11 times. Which means compared to our current top technology, 2030's technology will be roughly 2048 times faster, smaller, and with more capacity!
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:56 am
Lily method of thinking on this is pretty standard but much like projections of the future made during the worlds fair way back when. I think things may turn out different then imagined. I guess it all depends on the imagination of the inventors of the current era as well as the current needs of the society. But that method of thinking is obvious apparently to people even with out our interest. I myself have heard a comedian joke about how in two years cell phones are just going to be a chip you put on your tongue.
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