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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:23 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:08 pm
i don't want anyone to die
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:17 pm
MadKenshin jr i don't want anyone to die That's not saying much. Most people in this world don't want anyone to die.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:19 pm
i know i kinda put it in the wrong context ok i don't want defenseless pplz to die that is not fair
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:45 pm
You sir. Are a moose
Abortion - To me, I think that its mainly up to the mother. Me personelly, I won't get one. But like I said, its up to the mother, its her child. No one elses.
Now go do the Chicken Dance
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:54 pm
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:10 am
Skittlezdannygirls You sir. Are a moose
Abortion - To me, I think that its mainly up to the mother. Me personelly, I won't get one. But like I said, its up to the mother, its her child. No one elses.
Now go do the Chicken Dance I agree, but only for medical issues with th baby. If a teenager just had a fling and doesn't want to accept responsibility, that is different, in that case I would say "too bad, have the kid." Other thn that though, like if the baby would be miserablly deformed, I would say have an abortion if the mother wants it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:49 pm
I think that it should be up to the mother. There is such a thing as a medically neccessary abortion. The mother may die bearing the child full term, the child could die in child birth. These are things that I think should be considered. I'm not saying that every woman who skips her pill or gets knocked up should have an abortion. I think that in a case where the abortion would be medically necessary it should be an option. If you make it illegal you'll have abortions being performed anyway, putting multiple people in even more danger than a legal abortion. There is such a thing as a womans right to choose. I'm not going to let some right wing republican telling me what I can and can not do with my body. If I'm going to have a child that will live a miserable life, and suffer, than it should be my decision to make, not a person in the senate who doesn't know me, or my reasons. I know that if you legalize it you're opening yourself up to alot of problems, but I think that if you don't you're opening yourself up to a whole lot more problems, for mother, child, family and society.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:22 am
ok well heres how i put its its right if the mother knows that herbaby will have a sexually transmitted dease if it was born. like my main question. ok who would you rather have an Abortion. a rich girl that has STD's os ADD's or a poor girl that has no sexual deases. and personally i would say the rich girl because the baby will die either way. a year after it was born and she got attached to it or in the wome where it would not have to suffer and the mother would morn forever over her child. now either way she'll morn over it but if she had an adortion then she would in a year or 2 move on. the poor girl even though should couldn't take care of the child that she'll give life to could put it up for adoption. because everything has a right to live or die but if you already know it won't have a chance anyway don't make it suffer.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:39 pm
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:34 pm
This is a conflicting subject to me, both sides make too much sense for me to make a too in depth decision.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:10 pm
If we agree with the laws in place about bodily integrity, we cannot deny abortion. The law that each individual has the right to their own bodily integrity makes abortion legal. Roe vs. Wade, Mcfall vs. Shimp, and other cases have been key in this debate in other forums. Basically, the woman has the right to get an abortion if she wants one because she legally does have control over her body's use. Whether intentional or not, the embryo or fetus within her body is using it. If she does not desire it to use her body, no matter how significant or insignificant (some people claim that it's only 100 calories a day) the use is, it is using her body in violation of her rights. She has the legal right to stop the violation of her right to bodily integrity.
I agree with the legislation in some places where the laws are such that a woman cannot get an abortion after the 2nd trimester unless the pregnancy becomes life-threatening. Simply put, if one is going to get an abortion, it is safer, easier, and more logical to do it before that point. If there was going to be a problem (physical or mental disabilities, etc.) with the child, it would already have been apparent before the end of the 2nd trimester. If the mother for some reason didn't want the child to begin with, nipping the pregnancy in the bud is safer and easier the earlier it is done. There really wouldn't be a point in carrying the child longer than first or second trimester if the plan was to abort it. Aborting the child after carrying it for so long would only be necessary if the mother fully intended on having the child, but life-threatening complications arose near the end of the pregnancy.
My personal thoughts are that, although I respect a woman's right to choose, I would choose not to get an abortion. The only exception that I can think of where I would waffle and not be too sure is if I conceived due to being raped. Besides that, I don't think I would ever get pregnant before I'm ready to raise a child. I'm not even sure if I want to have children. I may simply adopt and get my tubes tied or have whoever I marry get a vasectomy. Who knows, I may not even get married or have children. I'm young and my adult life is extremely uncertain. All I know is that, if I ever get pregnant, it will be when I feel ready to raise a child (at least to the best of my ability).
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:18 pm
xsparklersx If we agree with the laws in place about bodily integrity, we cannot deny abortion. The law that each individual has the right to their own bodily integrity makes abortion legal. Roe vs. Wade, Mcfall vs. Shimp, and other cases have been key in this debate in other forums. Basically, the woman has the right to get an abortion if she wants one because she legally does have control over her body's use. Whether intentional or not, the embryo or fetus within her body is using it. If she does not desire it to use her body, no matter how significant or insignificant (some people claim that it's only 100 calories a day) the use is, it is using her body in violation of her rights. She has the legal right to stop the violation of her right to bodily integrity. I agree with the legislation in some places where the laws are such that a woman cannot get an abortion after the 2nd trimester unless the pregnancy becomes life-threatening. Simply put, if one is going to get an abortion, it is safer, easier, and more logical to do it before that point. If there was going to be a problem (physical or mental disabilities, etc.) with the child, it would already have been apparent before the end of the 2nd trimester. If the mother for some reason didn't want the child to begin with, nipping the pregnancy in the bud is safer and easier the earlier it is done. There really wouldn't be a point in carrying the child longer than first or second trimester if the plan was to abort it. Aborting the child after carrying it for so long would only be necessary if the mother fully intended on having the child, but life-threatening complications arose near the end of the pregnancy. My personal thoughts are that, although I respect a woman's right to choose, I would choose not to get an abortion. The only exception that I can think of where I would waffle and not be too sure is if I conceived due to being raped. Besides that, I don't think I would ever get pregnant before I'm ready to raise a child. I'm not even sure if I want to have children. I may simply adopt and get my tubes tied or have whoever I marry get a vasectomy. Who knows, I may not even get married or have children. I'm young and my adult life is extremely uncertain. All I know is that, if I ever get pregnant, it will be when I feel ready to raise a child (at least to the best of my ability). wow thats alot of info. but i think that an abortion is ok if your not a teen. if you are u should take responsibility for your actions.i think that was stated a few times now
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:53 am
TwinsCult#2 xsparklersx If we agree with the laws in place about bodily integrity, we cannot deny abortion. The law that each individual has the right to their own bodily integrity makes abortion legal. Roe vs. Wade, Mcfall vs. Shimp, and other cases have been key in this debate in other forums. Basically, the woman has the right to get an abortion if she wants one because she legally does have control over her body's use. Whether intentional or not, the embryo or fetus within her body is using it. If she does not desire it to use her body, no matter how significant or insignificant (some people claim that it's only 100 calories a day) the use is, it is using her body in violation of her rights. She has the legal right to stop the violation of her right to bodily integrity. I agree with the legislation in some places where the laws are such that a woman cannot get an abortion after the 2nd trimester unless the pregnancy becomes life-threatening. Simply put, if one is going to get an abortion, it is safer, easier, and more logical to do it before that point. If there was going to be a problem (physical or mental disabilities, etc.) with the child, it would already have been apparent before the end of the 2nd trimester. If the mother for some reason didn't want the child to begin with, nipping the pregnancy in the bud is safer and easier the earlier it is done. There really wouldn't be a point in carrying the child longer than first or second trimester if the plan was to abort it. Aborting the child after carrying it for so long would only be necessary if the mother fully intended on having the child, but life-threatening complications arose near the end of the pregnancy. My personal thoughts are that, although I respect a woman's right to choose, I would choose not to get an abortion. The only exception that I can think of where I would waffle and not be too sure is if I conceived due to being raped. Besides that, I don't think I would ever get pregnant before I'm ready to raise a child. I'm not even sure if I want to have children. I may simply adopt and get my tubes tied or have whoever I marry get a vasectomy. Who knows, I may not even get married or have children. I'm young and my adult life is extremely uncertain. All I know is that, if I ever get pregnant, it will be when I feel ready to raise a child (at least to the best of my ability). wow thats alot of info. but i think that an abortion is ok if your not a teen. if you are u should take responsibility for your actions.i think that was stated a few times now I have a problem with your "if you're not a teen" simply because even teens can be raped. In fact, there are many rape cases with teenage victims. I don't think it would be fair to say that a raped 15-year-old girl should not be able to get an abortion because she should "take responsibility" for the fact that she was violated.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:10 pm
xsparklersx TwinsCult#2 xsparklersx If we agree with the laws in place about bodily integrity, we cannot deny abortion. The law that each individual has the right to their own bodily integrity makes abortion legal. Roe vs. Wade, Mcfall vs. Shimp, and other cases have been key in this debate in other forums. Basically, the woman has the right to get an abortion if she wants one because she legally does have control over her body's use. Whether intentional or not, the embryo or fetus within her body is using it. If she does not desire it to use her body, no matter how significant or insignificant (some people claim that it's only 100 calories a day) the use is, it is using her body in violation of her rights. She has the legal right to stop the violation of her right to bodily integrity. I agree with the legislation in some places where the laws are such that a woman cannot get an abortion after the 2nd trimester unless the pregnancy becomes life-threatening. Simply put, if one is going to get an abortion, it is safer, easier, and more logical to do it before that point. If there was going to be a problem (physical or mental disabilities, etc.) with the child, it would already have been apparent before the end of the 2nd trimester. If the mother for some reason didn't want the child to begin with, nipping the pregnancy in the bud is safer and easier the earlier it is done. There really wouldn't be a point in carrying the child longer than first or second trimester if the plan was to abort it. Aborting the child after carrying it for so long would only be necessary if the mother fully intended on having the child, but life-threatening complications arose near the end of the pregnancy. My personal thoughts are that, although I respect a woman's right to choose, I would choose not to get an abortion. The only exception that I can think of where I would waffle and not be too sure is if I conceived due to being raped. Besides that, I don't think I would ever get pregnant before I'm ready to raise a child. I'm not even sure if I want to have children. I may simply adopt and get my tubes tied or have whoever I marry get a vasectomy. Who knows, I may not even get married or have children. I'm young and my adult life is extremely uncertain. All I know is that, if I ever get pregnant, it will be when I feel ready to raise a child (at least to the best of my ability). wow thats alot of info. but i think that an abortion is ok if your not a teen. if you are u should take responsibility for your actions.i think that was stated a few times now I have a problem with your "if you're not a teen" simply because even teens can be raped. In fact, there are many rape cases with teenage victims. I don't think it would be fair to say that a raped 15-year-old girl should not be able to get an abortion because she should "take responsibility" for the fact that she was violated. in that case its ok
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