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 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:12 am
I am an Atheistic Satanist as mentioned several times before, but I still believe in the possiblity of Afterlife, I have to basic theories on it: Temporary Soul
Reincarnation
No eternal paradise or damnation.
The alternative would obviously be that our existance ends.
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:42 pm
I remember reading somewhere that since our brains have electrical signals, when we die they can escape our bodies. However, there is supposedly little chance that they would stay in the air for long. They'd evaporate quickly. I don't know as I really believe this, but the possibility is there I suppose.
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:26 pm
Fae_Knight I am an Atheistic Satanist as mentioned several times before, but I still believe in the possiblity of Afterlife, I have to basic theories on it: Temporary Soul Reincarnation No eternal paradise or damnation. That's a very interesting theory. How would the idea that no one remembers their past lives fit in? Do you recall any past life memories, or do you believe one cannot remember their past lives but still gain "experience" from them?
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:27 pm
If we were to reincarnate, I think we would be able to access the memories of the past somehow, people try methods for achieving this all the time, few succeed, and still a chance it could all be the brain playin a trick, that branches into 2 different theories itself.
The First basically compares the soul to a memory card or journal, this implies that the soul would have no intelligence or consciousness, no control over what life it ends up with.
The Second, less likly possibility is that it is a second vehicle for intellect and consciousness, has control over what life it will experience next.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:06 pm
Do you beleive that there is an intermediate state between life and death, or that one reincarnates immediately?
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:35 pm
If reincarnation is what happens, I think it would very. If it is intellectual and conscious it would probably wait till the time is right. If its not, than I think it would depend on the environment.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:58 pm
Atheism does not preclude the possibility of (or belief in) an afterlife, though for more hard-line Atheists it does. Sometimes what I find curious about beliefs in the afterlife is that several of them make this assumption that 'you' remain intact. If this notion is discarded, than some more interesting possiblities arise that are more in-tune with how we see the rest of the universe works. The universe recycles itself. If there are souls, souls too, would recycle themselves but be profoundly transformed in the process. You wouldn't be 'you' per say. But from a certain standpoint, all is One anyway. I am no different than the chair I sit in nor the air I breathe nor the stardust floating around in the cosmos. Individual identities are an illusion created by the human condition.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:01 pm
Exactly.
Atheist means without god, but doesn't say anything about the soul.
I like the way the hindus portray reincarnation. A sort of transmigration I guess.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:43 pm
I am an atheist and I believe that every living being (human, beast, plant, or otherwise) has a spirit or soul. I believe that when we die, we stay in the afterlife until we are ready to be reborn and when we are it could be as anything.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:40 pm
Always an interesting topic, good to know there's someone here who thinks similar to the way I think.
smile
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:04 pm
I do not believe in the concept of a soul; I believe that mind functions can be explained in terms of brain functions. I believe that once brain activity has fully ceased, life has ended and that there is nothing else.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:01 pm
chaoticpuppet I do not believe in the concept of a soul; I believe that mind functions can be explained in terms of brain functions. I believe that once brain activity has fully ceased, life has ended and that there is nothing else. Many people would find such a belief rather discomforting. How do you reconcile that? It is very human to want to find some sort of continuity of existence. Do you have some other means of representing the continuity of your own existence or does the idea just plain not matter to you? Just curious. whee
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:31 pm
I share part of that, I know the brain is the source of life and intellect. Not really how I view the soul.
I believe the possibility of ceasing to exist, it doesn't bother me actually, death is going to happen, if I simply cease to exist, I have lived my life fulfilled, once Im dead I wont even be able to care what happens.
If I have a brief afterlife, yay.
If I reincarnate, yay.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:33 pm
Fae_Knight I share part of that, I know the brain is the source of life and intellect. Not really how I view the soul. I believe the possibility of ceasing to exist, it doesn't bother me actually, death is going to happen, if I simply cease to exist, I have lived my life fulfilled, once Im dead I wont even be able to care what happens. If I have a brief afterlife, yay. If I reincarnate, yay. I think it is easy to have a more dispassionate view towards death if it hasn't struck you personally, which is especially true of young people. When you get older, often your perspective on death changes. I find it interesting how the brain is viewed as the source of what we are. This isn't surprising, though if you think about it. It is science that tells us this, and science can ONLY attribute some sort of causality to something that is physical or measurable in some way. Science will of course attribute our consciousness to our brains... it can't attribute it to anything else outside of our own bodies! Then science will of course say when we die, that's it. But that is also all science CAN say. It's on the afterlife question that some of the limitations of science become aparent. It can only draw conclusions from things we understand how to measure, but it unfortunately really dosen't exclude alternative possibilities.
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:39 pm
I have lost relatives before, it sucks.
I see what your saying... here is what I think:
Scientists will deny it but in some cases they already found answers, they say ki/qi/prana doesn't exist but they already have a word for it, several infact, chemical energy, bioelectricity, bioelectromagnetic energy to name a few.
NDEs can be explained as blood flow to the brain slowing or ceasing, a chemical effect. Whether or not consiousness actually is carried on in an astral body is unknown. People who almost die in hospitals see, in great detail, the room they are in, yet they have never seen it before, sometimes never even seen what an ER looks like.
2 sides to my coin.
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