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 Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:30 pm
I yet again have to start off with a recorder for my music lessons. One thing is I detest this instrument and I find it annoying because it is so...well recorder >_<" I could not have continued on the Quena because the quena is too difficult for the time being.
Anyone here a master of this recorder instrument?
Oh well, I have to start somewhere so I might as well live it, learn it, and love it as they say.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:45 pm
Actually, the recorder sounds pretty nice if well played and if you use the right tonging technique, which is similar to that of the flute, but easier. The recorder is generally easy to play, considering it's not that hard to make a sound on it. As for the fingerings, that would depend on what recorder you have.
The left hand goes on the top, with the thumb covering/uncovering the back hole, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th fingers (you use the pinky only for balance) on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd holes from the top at the front of the recorder.
Now, the right hand: The thumb goes at the back around the middle (only for balance), the 2nd finger on the 4th hole at the front, 3rd finger on the 5th hole, 4th finger for both the smaller holes (they're kind of in the same "row") and pinky for the last two holes, again on the same "row".
I'll just assume you play the descant (or soprano). These fingerings can also be used for the tenor recorder. (Please do not take offense if you don't play these recorders. You can still use the fingerings, but the notes will come out as a different pitch) So, the first octave (from lowest note):
C - left thumb, and all the holes covered
C#- left thumb, and all the holes covered except for the bottom most left one, just slide right pink to the right
D - thumb, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th 5th and 6th holes covered (note: thumb is just thumb, it's not included in the 1st, 2nd...etc holes)
Eb - thumb, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, "1/2" of 6, again, slide the finger in charge of that hole to the right
E - thumb, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
F - thumb, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
F#- thumb, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6
G - thumb, 1, 2, 3
Ab- thumb, 1, 2, 4, 5
A - thumb, 1, 2
Bb- thumb, 1, 3, 4
B - thumb, 1
C - thumb, 2
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:57 pm
If that makes sense at all...sorry if it doesn't...if you want, you can give me your e-mail address and I'll send you the fingering chart (as an attachment) for the recorder for 3 octaves.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:41 am
Yeah it kinda make sense for now. Thank you for the info though. Since I am playing two instruments at once (well more like learning) one of my other teachers adviced me to stick to one instrument at a time. Yeah, it is the soprano.
The reason why I started to detest this instrument is because children treat it as a toy and people look down upon it as a toy. My teacher who is almost a master at this, he made the recorder look like a serious instrument. A little kid only mastered the song happy birthday in one day.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:48 pm
Shokai Yeah it kinda make sense for now. Thank you for the info though. Since I am playing two instruments at once (well more like learning) one of my other teachers adviced me to stick to one instrument at a time. Yeah, it is the soprano. The reason why I started to detest this instrument is because children treat it as a toy and people look down upon it as a toy. My teacher who is almost a master at this, he made the recorder look like a serious instrument. A little kid only mastered the song happy birthday in one day. Well, whether or not it's a toy depends on how you see it. I see it as an actual instrument, not a "child's toy", as many people put it. Many times, I've seen people being stunned by how beautiful the recorder sounds when they hear others play it, and I hope you become one of those people. And if you have a plastic recorder, I advise you to get a wooden one, as plastic recorders sound particularly squeaky on the higher notes. If you compare, the tone sounds much nicer than a plastic one. Anyways, good luck with learning the recorder (and quena)!!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:08 pm
winter.fantasy Shokai Yeah it kinda make sense for now. Thank you for the info though. Since I am playing two instruments at once (well more like learning) one of my other teachers adviced me to stick to one instrument at a time. Yeah, it is the soprano. The reason why I started to detest this instrument is because children treat it as a toy and people look down upon it as a toy. My teacher who is almost a master at this, he made the recorder look like a serious instrument. A little kid only mastered the song happy birthday in one day. Well, whether or not it's a toy depends on how you see it. I see it as an actual instrument, not a "child's toy", as many people put it. Many times, I've seen people being stunned by how beautiful the recorder sounds when they hear others play it, and I hope you become one of those people. And if you have a plastic recorder, I advise you to get a wooden one, as plastic recorders sound particularly squeaky on the higher notes. If you compare, the tone sounds much nicer than a plastic one. Anyways, good luck with learning the recorder (and quena)!!! Thanks! I just ordered a recorder. I believe it is from Suzuki though. A girl my mom once met had a white recorder from the Suzuki company and my mom said it sounded really beautiful (I assume it was plastic). For now all I cant work with is plastic. What I like about the recorder is the tunes that one can play and sound so beautiful is Celtic music, Middle Age, Rennaissance. Those are my three favorites on the recorder. I just saw a video of a guy playing a final fantasy song on a recorder and I am comletely stunned! Maginificent!! So far I have learned how to play a few Peruvian songs on the recorder. and thank you for also looking at the value of the recorder as well. I shall treat mine with greatest respect!
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:51 pm
Gah! Medieval/Early Renaissance music especially on the recorder sounds so beautiful! It has this...sound to it. Beautiful! I so want to learn to play now!
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm
If you're looking for more music, 8notes has a few recorder pieces. It also has music for various other instruments as well, so you could kind of adapt some of that for recorder, like music that's written for flute.
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:35 pm
Dont remember if I mentioned this but I just recieved my new recorder from Suzuki. The recorder has beautiful sound and responds with the slightest blow of air.
Do you know how to use the cleaning rod? Do you just stick the rod into the recorder or do I need to put a tissue on to it?
If there is anything else you can advice me with, please post anything else. I am still musically illiterate. If it was not for the recorder, these old tunes would have probably never reach my ears.
So far, I like a song called Danza Alta by Francisco De la Torre. From what I read, it is a Midieval/Earlr Renaissance song.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:43 pm
Shokai Dont remember if I mentioned this but I just recieved my new recorder from Suzuki. The recorder has beautiful sound and responds with the slightest blow of air. Do you know how to use the cleaning rod? Do you just stick the rod into the recorder or do I need to put a tissue on to it? If there is anything else you can advice me with, please post anything else. I am still musically illiterate. If it was not for the recorder, these old tunes would have probably never reach my ears. So far, I like a song called Danza Alta by Francisco De la Torre. From what I read, it is a Midieval/Earlr Renaissance song. No, don't put a tissue on it, put a cloth around it. The cleaning rod should have a hole or something at the tip. You stick a corner of the cloth into this hole and then you wrap the rest of the cloth around it. Then clean by wiping the insides of the recorder with the cleaning rod. As for other advice, for the higher notes, don't blow too softly, this will make the recorder squeak.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:27 pm
Yeah I figured that with the cleaning rod. For the higher notes, do you mean to: to blow a bit hard (not crazy hard)? Because usually this is what happens. When I blow soft on the high notes it indeed does squeak but if I blow on it "regular" it makes the appropiate sound. So far I have learned a few Peruvian and Bolivian tunes on the recorder and am learning this Flamenco style song from a movie. It's fun but my teacher makes me play it over and over but it is well worth it in the end.
But yeah... some people think that just because the recorder has an inexpensive price, it is not a good instrument. I guess they just have to look beyond the fact that is more than an instrument that is played in the 4th and 5th grade.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:27 am
Yeah, just blow on it slightly harder than normal. This should get a good sound, though a disadvantage of this is that you can't play the higher notes softly. It's great that you're learning new pieces. Maybe try playing some scales and gradually increasing the speed, so you can play pieces that require a lot of fluency (some are extremely fast). I don't really play fold or medieval/renaissance music that much, so I don't know about the pieces you're talking about (I just play arrangements of my piano pieces), so I can't really discuss the pieces that you're playing with you crying But continue playing, preferably the stuff you like, so you won't get "bored" of an instrument.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:22 pm
Heh alright I will try. I found some old music books for kids. It is written for the piano but I think a lot of it can be used for the recorder as well (I tried it and it sounds wonderful). I do not know how to play pieces from medieval or rennaisance period so I do not know too much about that either. Thanks!
The high notes on my plastic recorder sounds alright though despite it being plastic.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:26 pm
Sorry, I must have meant higher notes as in the notes starting from slightly above middle of the second octave and the whole of the third octave.
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:27 pm
i kinda learned recorder at school in Hong Kong, i know all the basic notes, but i don't know how all the flats and sharps work...
so i'm trying to figure out how to play canon in c with the recorder...
have to switch fingers like uber fast... -_- rawr
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