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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:35 am
Welcome to the Philosophers Cafe, a place to hang out, chat and enjoy the company of your fellows... with food and drink!
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:37 am
"Sorry for my absence of late. I am travelling a lot and online only unreliably at best. This may continue for a couple of months still. I hope to see you all in my brief moments online and will drop by when I can.
SanguineV"
then slips out again.>
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:07 pm
*walks in quietly* grabs a jelly filled donut and sits alone nibbling quietly* Well...this place is nice...peaceful...from the sign I'd figure it be full of a bunch of old guys argueing over a bunch of stuff they couldn't change...oh well...the pastry's good.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:17 pm
*Walks in with two guys arguing about things they can't change* I like pie. Coule I get some pie?
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:32 pm
*walks in and grabs some coffee*
Mmmm.....coffee.....so, how about a discussion about things we can't change?
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:29 pm
you can't change who you are...you can't change the world...only the interactions between the two.
You can't change the past...you'll never know the future all you can do is live every second until the end...Carpe Diem...and carpe finis...sieze he day...and sieze the end.
You can't change fate...you can't alter the path...but only how you walk on it.
*downs a frappachinno...starts to nibble a scone* sigh...can't change starbucks either...
((whatever...now my fellow Philosopher's buzzed up on caffinee: slaughter my statements and make this the greatest cafe since the great hotel california...*which has to do with this how? Really I'm on a coffee surge...don't know what I'm talking about))
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:00 pm
My hotel has wireless internet, at least for the next couple of days. Maybe I will be on occasionally. wink Socrates in Disguise you can't change who you are...you can't change the world...only the interactions between the two.
People change the world every day, there is nothing stopping anyone else from doing it either. All you need to do is find a way.Socrates in Disguise You can't change the past...you'll never know the future all you can do is live every second until the end...Carpe Diem...and carpe finis...sieze he day...and sieze the end.
The future is largely predictable. I know I will wake up tomorrow, I will check my eail, my phone messages and I will eat. I could be more specific and even make it happen if I desired. The future may not be entirely predictable, but parts certainly are.Socrates in Disguise You can't change fate...you can't alter the path...but only how you walk on it. *downs a frappachinno...starts to nibble a scone* sigh...can't change starbucks either... ((whatever...now my fellow Philosopher's buzzed up on caffinee: slaughter my statements and make this the greatest cafe since the great hotel california...*which has to do with this how? Really I'm on a coffee surge...don't know what I'm talking about))
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:01 am
You know Socrates, that's a very bleek way of looking at things. Everything is changable, maluble, alterable. Life is chaos, and only our bleek sense of it's 'certenty' makes it any different. Where there's a will, there's a way, and with enough will, you can always get your way, even if you have to break a few 'laws' of physics.
Make a will save.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:05 am
*walks in, orders an Italian ice and a piece of chocolate cheese cake, and grabs a chair in the corner*
Well, well, well.....Philosophy, eh?
I don't know if I'm in the mood to get really abstract today...
What about what's happening today?
I saw a couple months ago an article in Time News Magazine. It was something along the lines of "How to end poverty by the year 2015." Did anyone else read that? It said, that if the United States actually started donating the amounts of money that it promised it would (.15% of our GNI) we could end 'fatal' world poverty in roughly 10 years. And yet right now, we are no where near that goal, or even looking at plans to pursue that goal. A few days of the money we spend in Iraq, and we could have it....maybe even less than a few days....maybe just one. And before you ask, there are other countries that have the same goal, and have reached it (Like the Netherlands/Norway/I can't remember the others) and countries that have plans to meet that goal.
These kids need vaccines that cost $1, and bednets that cost $5 to protect them from most of the diseases that kill them each year. And yet, they are so poor they can't afford it! Farmers can't afford the nutrients to put in their soil to help the plants grow better (the author went to africa and asked how many people knew about fertilizers--all of them raised their hands. Then he asked how many could afford it--only a few).
Parents are dead and dying from Aids and the same diseases as their children...Africa is a country of orphans and it's going to continue to be one from the same problems if we don't help these people! We can't just send them food...we need to set them up so that the self-defeating system they have now will be a self-reliant one! We say we want to help....others say we're looking for our own interests....but if we were really looking out for ourselves, wouldn't we help this country so that we could have the debt of a running country in the long run???
Ok....I'm done ranting now.
This is something to think about....anyone want to discuss it? Have similar complaints? And yes, I know, Africa is not the only country that needs help, and the US isn't the only country out there....but we aren't doing what we said we would. Isn't that wrong in itself?
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:40 pm
Hmm...D&D fan? Anyways there was not really a point to what I siad...I had a caffinee high and I knew if I said something absurd it would get people to respond...it's called a hook. And it worked. but really...would you want to change starbucks? In regards to Cirendia: Poverty is kinda just based on pespective...I think it's something like 15% of the U.S. is considered lower class...poor. ((using U.S. because I live here and I regret to say I don't know enough to argue any other place)) Even if you gave them the right stuff to make them theoretically middle class...they would still be by hence the poor...just the way we measure the poor would be different...only the scale of social standing would change not the social standing itself. No one will ever TRULY be happy with what they have. 1 dollar for vaccines, $5 for bednets, and what $35 per square acre...ok one of the main areas of probloms in africa...((or the one that gets the most coverage is the congo))how many people live in the congo? say it's 50,000 people...with each person with a quarter acre. dollars 737,500...now that's a big chunks of change...Africa is a big place with MILLIONS of people. We have a national debt of like 8 trillion dollars or something...can we really afford it?
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:45 am
Socrates in Disguise Hmm...D&D fan? Anyways there was not really a point to what I siad...I had a caffinee high and I knew if I said something absurd it would get people to respond...it's called a hook. And it worked. but really...would you want to change starbucks? In regards to Cirendia: Poverty is kinda just based on pespective...I think it's something like 15% of the U.S. is considered lower class...poor. ((using U.S. because I live here and I regret to say I don't know enough to argue any other place)) Even if you gave them the right stuff to make them theoretically middle class...they would still be by hence the poor...just the way we measure the poor would be different...only the scale of social standing would change not the social standing itself. No one will ever TRULY be happy with what they have. 1 dollar for vaccines, $5 for bednets, and what $35 per square acre...ok one of the main areas of probloms in africa...((or the one that gets the most coverage is the congo))how many people live in the congo? say it's 50,000 people...with each person with a quarter acre. dollars 737,500...now that's a big chunks of change...Africa is a big place with MILLIONS of people. We have a national debt of like 8 trillion dollars or something...can we really afford it? Well, we're already spending 3 million a day in Iraq....I'm just questioning HOW we spend our money...
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:28 am
I know...our government really doesn't know what they're doing...but they had to start somewhere...they just started in Iraq...they overthrew a dictator...we were heros for doing that in WWII...we just did it before a mass genocide...though their previous dictator did kill a lot of people anyway. No matter what anyone tells you they are helping those people...teaching them things to make them self-efficient and self governing...happened the same in Viatnam...enough people complained and we finally were forced through the media to retreat...and complaining won't do any good...what have YOU done about it?
but enough about government...*orders an iced tea* what do you guys think about living forever...you think science will ever create an elixir of youth? would you really want to live forever?
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:40 pm
Could they? Yes, I've figured out a way to allow for any living organism to survive indefinatly using only chemicals found in DNA and some found in cancer.
Should they? No, we are nearing, if not already in a population crisis. We don't need and exponential number of mouths to feed.
Will they? Most likely, to the world's chagrin. Scientists want to conquer everything, and they'll do it if they can. Few ever think about the actual ramifications of their work, they just want to climb the mountain of power. I expect it to happen, I just don't know when.
Do I want to? No. If everyone were immortal, it would make tragic death all the more painful. If not, then you would out-live everyone you could ever love. The curse of the Highlander. It's unnatural, and I would never allow it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:16 pm
Wow....how did we get on the topic of Iraq in here? Oh well. I'll go with it.
I'm completely against the war.
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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:19 am
Who IS pro war anyway? If they are that probably means they have some weird bend on destruction cause that's all war breeds. War happens. no one can stop it once it starts it will play it's course changing the world once again...Not for better not for worse...just...different. No if you'd be so kind as to pass the creamer. thanks.
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